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*228 Option 1

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by TroyT, Sep 20, 2004.

  1. TroyT

    TroyT Guest

    Hi. Is there someone out there who can tell me what *228 Option 1 does
    from Verizon? I know what option 2 does and am just a wondering.

    Thanks.

    Troy



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  2. I believe that Option 1 will program a phone that you purchased and are
    adding to the Verizon network for the first time.

    TroyT <troy_trip@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:g2tuk0l5rjbaohf7u18h8rmljhn23rk96d@4ax.com:

    > Hi. Is there someone out there who can tell me what *228 Option 1 does
    > from Verizon? I know what option 2 does and am just a wondering.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Troy
    >
    >
    1 person likes this.
  3. I believe that Option 1 will program a phone that you purchased and are
    adding to the Verizon network for the first time.

    TroyT <troy_trip@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:g2tuk0l5rjbaohf7u18h8rmljhn23rk96d@4ax.com:

    > Hi. Is there someone out there who can tell me what *228 Option 1 does
    > from Verizon? I know what option 2 does and am just a wondering.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Troy
    >
    >
  4. Luchini

    Luchini Guest

    Troy,

    Option 1 is used to program a new phone. I had to use it when I ordered a
    phone from them through the mail. Option 1 sets certain parameters into the
    phone for use like the ESN, MDN, MIN, etc. If you purchased your phone in a
    Verizon store, the rep most likely used this to program the phone for you
    once your acocunt had been entered into the system, therefore you probably
    will never have a need to use it.


    "TroyT" <troy_trip@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:g2tuk0l5rjbaohf7u18h8rmljhn23rk96d@4ax.com...
    > Hi. Is there someone out there who can tell me what *228 Option 1 does
    > from Verizon? I know what option 2 does and am just a wondering.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Troy
    >
    1 person likes this.
  5. Luchini

    Luchini Guest

    Troy,

    Option 1 is used to program a new phone. I had to use it when I ordered a
    phone from them through the mail. Option 1 sets certain parameters into the
    phone for use like the ESN, MDN, MIN, etc. If you purchased your phone in a
    Verizon store, the rep most likely used this to program the phone for you
    once your acocunt had been entered into the system, therefore you probably
    will never have a need to use it.


    "TroyT" <troy_trip@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:g2tuk0l5rjbaohf7u18h8rmljhn23rk96d@4ax.com...
    > Hi. Is there someone out there who can tell me what *228 Option 1 does
    > from Verizon? I know what option 2 does and am just a wondering.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Troy
    >
  6. TroyT

    TroyT Guest

    Thank you. I did not think about that.

    Troy

    On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 01:13:21 GMT, "Luchini" <none@dontmailme.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >Troy,
    >
    >Option 1 is used to program a new phone. I had to use it when I ordered a
    >phone from them through the mail. Option 1 sets certain parameters into the
    >phone for use like the ESN, MDN, MIN, etc. If you purchased your phone in a
    >Verizon store, the rep most likely used this to program the phone for you
    >once your acocunt had been entered into the system, therefore you probably
    >will never have a need to use it.
    >
    >
    >"TroyT" <troy_trip@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >news:g2tuk0l5rjbaohf7u18h8rmljhn23rk96d@4ax.com...
    >> Hi. Is there someone out there who can tell me what *228 Option 1 does
    >> from Verizon? I know what option 2 does and am just a wondering.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> Troy
    >>

    >
  7. TroyT

    TroyT Guest

    Thank you. I did not think about that.

    Troy

    On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 01:13:21 GMT, "Luchini" <none@dontmailme.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >Troy,
    >
    >Option 1 is used to program a new phone. I had to use it when I ordered a
    >phone from them through the mail. Option 1 sets certain parameters into the
    >phone for use like the ESN, MDN, MIN, etc. If you purchased your phone in a
    >Verizon store, the rep most likely used this to program the phone for you
    >once your acocunt had been entered into the system, therefore you probably
    >will never have a need to use it.
    >
    >
    >"TroyT" <troy_trip@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >news:g2tuk0l5rjbaohf7u18h8rmljhn23rk96d@4ax.com...
    >> Hi. Is there someone out there who can tell me what *228 Option 1 does
    >> from Verizon? I know what option 2 does and am just a wondering.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> Troy
    >>

    >
  8. Luchini <none@dontmailme.com> wrote:

    > Option 1 sets certain parameters into the phone for use like the ESN, MDN,
    > MIN, etc.


    A phone's ESN is hard-wired into it. Option 1 programs the
    phone number and binds it to the ESN in the phone. Indeed,
    it's the ESN that allows Option 1 to work at all since what
    options are programmed are looked up using the ESN as the key.

    - Paul
  9. Luchini <none@dontmailme.com> wrote:

    > Option 1 sets certain parameters into the phone for use like the ESN, MDN,
    > MIN, etc.


    A phone's ESN is hard-wired into it. Option 1 programs the
    phone number and binds it to the ESN in the phone. Indeed,
    it's the ESN that allows Option 1 to work at all since what
    options are programmed are looked up using the ESN as the key.

    - Paul
  10. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Paul J. Lucas wrote:
    > Luchini <none@dontmailme.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Option 1 sets certain parameters into the phone for use like the
    >> ESN, MDN, MIN, etc.

    >
    > A phone's ESN is hard-wired into it. Option 1 programs the
    > phone number and binds it to the ESN in the phone. Indeed,
    > it's the ESN that allows Option 1 to work at all since what
    > options are programmed are looked up using the ESN as the key.


    Correct. The ESN is the phone's serial number and is unique
    to that physical phone. It never changes.

    -Quick
  11. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Paul J. Lucas wrote:
    > Luchini <none@dontmailme.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Option 1 sets certain parameters into the phone for use like the
    >> ESN, MDN, MIN, etc.

    >
    > A phone's ESN is hard-wired into it. Option 1 programs the
    > phone number and binds it to the ESN in the phone. Indeed,
    > it's the ESN that allows Option 1 to work at all since what
    > options are programmed are looked up using the ESN as the key.


    Correct. The ESN is the phone's serial number and is unique
    to that physical phone. It never changes.

    -Quick
  12. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Paul J. Lucas wrote:
    > Luchini <none@dontmailme.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Option 1 sets certain parameters into the phone for use like the
    >> ESN, MDN, MIN, etc.

    >
    > A phone's ESN is hard-wired into it. Option 1 programs the
    > phone number and binds it to the ESN in the phone. Indeed,
    > it's the ESN that allows Option 1 to work at all since what
    > options are programmed are looked up using the ESN as the key.


    Correct. The ESN is the phone's serial number and is unique
    to that physical phone. It never changes.

    -Quick
  13. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1095786345.864549@sj-nntpcache-5...
    <snip>
    > Correct. The ESN is the phone's serial number and is unique
    > to that physical phone. It never changes.
    >
    > -Quick
    >
    >


    Not entirely so. An ESN can be forged into a cellular phone. In the
    old days of cell phone theft (cloning) it was quite easy to change an
    ESN. In fact the tech service at verizon can also do it while you
    stand there. I think its entering the device as 0000000 around sixteen
    of them and then scrolling through the menus and it can be tampered
    with.

    My friend at Verizon showed me how to do it and I wrote it down and
    now cannot find the paper. I will find it someday when I am not even
    looking for it. ha ha

    Elector
  14. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1095786345.864549@sj-nntpcache-5...
    <snip>
    > Correct. The ESN is the phone's serial number and is unique
    > to that physical phone. It never changes.
    >
    > -Quick
    >
    >


    Not entirely so. An ESN can be forged into a cellular phone. In the
    old days of cell phone theft (cloning) it was quite easy to change an
    ESN. In fact the tech service at verizon can also do it while you
    stand there. I think its entering the device as 0000000 around sixteen
    of them and then scrolling through the menus and it can be tampered
    with.

    My friend at Verizon showed me how to do it and I wrote it down and
    now cannot find the paper. I will find it someday when I am not even
    looking for it. ha ha

    Elector
  15. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1095786345.864549@sj-nntpcache-5...
    <snip>
    > Correct. The ESN is the phone's serial number and is unique
    > to that physical phone. It never changes.
    >
    > -Quick
    >
    >


    Not entirely so. An ESN can be forged into a cellular phone. In the
    old days of cell phone theft (cloning) it was quite easy to change an
    ESN. In fact the tech service at verizon can also do it while you
    stand there. I think its entering the device as 0000000 around sixteen
    of them and then scrolling through the menus and it can be tampered
    with.

    My friend at Verizon showed me how to do it and I wrote it down and
    now cannot find the paper. I will find it someday when I am not even
    looking for it. ha ha

    Elector
  16. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <OzZ3d.6299$yg.1361@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
    Elector <elector@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >Not entirely so. An ESN can be forged into a cellular phone. In the
    >old days of cell phone theft (cloning) it was quite easy to change an
    >ESN. In fact the tech service at verizon can also do it while you
    >stand there. I think its entering the device as 0000000 around sixteen
    >of them and then scrolling through the menus and it can be tampered
    >with.
    >
    >My friend at Verizon showed me how to do it and I wrote it down and
    >now cannot find the paper. I will find it someday when I am not even
    >looking for it. ha ha


    For several years now, the FCC has decreed that the ESN shall
    be unalterable (physically read-only) and physically stored in a
    tamper-resistance chip. In the "old days", there was the magic mentioned
    above which was used to set the ESN in a loaner phone. Now, they (or the
    customer at a Web page) just change the ESN in their system on the fly.
  17. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <OzZ3d.6299$yg.1361@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
    Elector <elector@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >Not entirely so. An ESN can be forged into a cellular phone. In the
    >old days of cell phone theft (cloning) it was quite easy to change an
    >ESN. In fact the tech service at verizon can also do it while you
    >stand there. I think its entering the device as 0000000 around sixteen
    >of them and then scrolling through the menus and it can be tampered
    >with.
    >
    >My friend at Verizon showed me how to do it and I wrote it down and
    >now cannot find the paper. I will find it someday when I am not even
    >looking for it. ha ha


    For several years now, the FCC has decreed that the ESN shall
    be unalterable (physically read-only) and physically stored in a
    tamper-resistance chip. In the "old days", there was the magic mentioned
    above which was used to set the ESN in a loaner phone. Now, they (or the
    customer at a Web page) just change the ESN in their system on the fly.
  18. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <OzZ3d.6299$yg.1361@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
    Elector <elector@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >Not entirely so. An ESN can be forged into a cellular phone. In the
    >old days of cell phone theft (cloning) it was quite easy to change an
    >ESN. In fact the tech service at verizon can also do it while you
    >stand there. I think its entering the device as 0000000 around sixteen
    >of them and then scrolling through the menus and it can be tampered
    >with.
    >
    >My friend at Verizon showed me how to do it and I wrote it down and
    >now cannot find the paper. I will find it someday when I am not even
    >looking for it. ha ha


    For several years now, the FCC has decreed that the ESN shall
    be unalterable (physically read-only) and physically stored in a
    tamper-resistance chip. In the "old days", there was the magic mentioned
    above which was used to set the ESN in a loaner phone. Now, they (or the
    customer at a Web page) just change the ESN in their system on the fly.
  19. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "CharlesH" <hoch@exemplary.invalid> wrote in message
    news:RP14d.18142$QJ3.3149@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
    <snip>
    > For several years now, the FCC has decreed that the ESN shall
    > be unalterable (physically read-only) and physically stored in a
    > tamper-resistance chip. In the "old days", there was the magic
    > mentioned
    > above which was used to set the ESN in a loaner phone. Now, they (or
    > the
    > customer at a Web page) just change the ESN in their system on the
    > fly.
    >


    Thank you for letting me know. I knew it was a while back that I had
    seen this ESN thing done.
    Nice to know my mind is not totally gone..Ha ha

    Elector
  20. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:37:12 GMT, pauljlucas@mac.com (Paul J. Lucas)
    said in alt.cellular.verizon:

    > A phone's ESN is hard-wired into it. Option 1 programs the
    > phone number and binds it to the ESN in the phone.


    The ESN-phone number binding is done at the carrier's database, not in
    the phone. *228-1 has nothing to do with that. If the binding hasn't
    already been done, *228-1 (or -2) won't work.

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