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3589i external antenna?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by smokey mike, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "David L" <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:e1705cb3.0406190006.7dd73481@posting.google.com
    > smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message
    > news:<c1940673.0406172033.7b120557@posting.google.com>...
    >> I want to get an external antenna for my '89i, to make this awesome
    >> phone even better in fringe areas. Two questions on that, for anyone
    >> with experience:
    >>
    >> 1) The traditional external antenna couples a signal through the back
    >> of the phone to the internal antenna. Does that work well??
    >>
    >> 2) Upon removing the back cover, a connector is visible, presumably
    >> for an antenna. Has anybody used this instead?
    >>
    >> thanks...!

    >
    > After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    > users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    > coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    > external antenna connector hidden under the back cover. No one has
    > come up with a way to use that hidden port for an external antenna
    > connector. Apparently, that port lacks the RF connectivity and
    > physical durability to be used as an antenna connecter. Seems to be a
    > test port only.
    >
    >
    > Too bad...a high gain, direct connected external/Yagi antenna,
    > combined with that phone's already top notch digital performance and
    > ability to rapidly switch among usable digital networks/bands, has got
    > more than a few, fringe area, cdma user's curiosity stoked.
    > Maybe, someone has found the best inductive coupler by now? The other
    > purpose of a good external would be to boost the somewhat anemic
    > analog performance.
    >
    > -
    > David


    Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    Page 8 has this info,
    ANTENNAS
    Your phone has three antennas:
    Internal antenna is always active.
    Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)" on
    page 62.
    Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    =======================================
    While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there are
    two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to use
    one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.

    "The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated when placing emergency
    calls or when is selected from the Location info sharing feature." <---- The
    test port is actually for the GPS antenna, note that it is not a standard
    connection, so you would need an adapter even if selected from the menu.

    There is no jack on the phone, but if you don't mind voiding the warranty,
    and adding a jack yourself, I added one to mine and wired it to the external
    antenna BUT made sure it was always connected, even if the antenna wasn't
    extended.
     



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  2. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "David L" <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:e1705cb3.0406190006.7dd73481@posting.google.com
    > smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message
    > news:<c1940673.0406172033.7b120557@posting.google.com>...
    >> I want to get an external antenna for my '89i, to make this awesome
    >> phone even better in fringe areas. Two questions on that, for anyone
    >> with experience:
    >>
    >> 1) The traditional external antenna couples a signal through the back
    >> of the phone to the internal antenna. Does that work well??
    >>
    >> 2) Upon removing the back cover, a connector is visible, presumably
    >> for an antenna. Has anybody used this instead?
    >>
    >> thanks...!

    >
    > After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    > users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    > coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    > external antenna connector hidden under the back cover. No one has
    > come up with a way to use that hidden port for an external antenna
    > connector. Apparently, that port lacks the RF connectivity and
    > physical durability to be used as an antenna connecter. Seems to be a
    > test port only.
    >
    >
    > Too bad...a high gain, direct connected external/Yagi antenna,
    > combined with that phone's already top notch digital performance and
    > ability to rapidly switch among usable digital networks/bands, has got
    > more than a few, fringe area, cdma user's curiosity stoked.
    > Maybe, someone has found the best inductive coupler by now? The other
    > purpose of a good external would be to boost the somewhat anemic
    > analog performance.
    >
    > -
    > David


    Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    Page 8 has this info,
    ANTENNAS
    Your phone has three antennas:
    Internal antenna is always active.
    Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)" on
    page 62.
    Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    =======================================
    While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there are
    two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to use
    one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.

    "The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated when placing emergency
    calls or when is selected from the Location info sharing feature." <---- The
    test port is actually for the GPS antenna, note that it is not a standard
    connection, so you would need an adapter even if selected from the menu.

    There is no jack on the phone, but if you don't mind voiding the warranty,
    and adding a jack yourself, I added one to mine and wired it to the external
    antenna BUT made sure it was always connected, even if the antenna wasn't
    extended.
     
  3. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "David L" <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:e1705cb3.0406190006.7dd73481@posting.google.com
    > smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message
    > news:<c1940673.0406172033.7b120557@posting.google.com>...
    >> I want to get an external antenna for my '89i, to make this awesome
    >> phone even better in fringe areas. Two questions on that, for anyone
    >> with experience:
    >>
    >> 1) The traditional external antenna couples a signal through the back
    >> of the phone to the internal antenna. Does that work well??
    >>
    >> 2) Upon removing the back cover, a connector is visible, presumably
    >> for an antenna. Has anybody used this instead?
    >>
    >> thanks...!

    >
    > After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    > users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    > coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    > external antenna connector hidden under the back cover. No one has
    > come up with a way to use that hidden port for an external antenna
    > connector. Apparently, that port lacks the RF connectivity and
    > physical durability to be used as an antenna connecter. Seems to be a
    > test port only.
    >
    >
    > Too bad...a high gain, direct connected external/Yagi antenna,
    > combined with that phone's already top notch digital performance and
    > ability to rapidly switch among usable digital networks/bands, has got
    > more than a few, fringe area, cdma user's curiosity stoked.
    > Maybe, someone has found the best inductive coupler by now? The other
    > purpose of a good external would be to boost the somewhat anemic
    > analog performance.
    >
    > -
    > David


    Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    Page 8 has this info,
    ANTENNAS
    Your phone has three antennas:
    Internal antenna is always active.
    Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)" on
    page 62.
    Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    =======================================
    While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there are
    two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to use
    one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.

    "The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated when placing emergency
    calls or when is selected from the Location info sharing feature." <---- The
    test port is actually for the GPS antenna, note that it is not a standard
    connection, so you would need an adapter even if selected from the menu.

    There is no jack on the phone, but if you don't mind voiding the warranty,
    and adding a jack yourself, I added one to mine and wired it to the external
    antenna BUT made sure it was always connected, even if the antenna wasn't
    extended.
     
  4. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  5. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  6. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  7. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  8. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  9. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  10. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  11. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  12. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  13. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  14. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  15. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  16. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  17. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  18. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  19. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     
  20. Mark Allread

    Mark Allread Guest

    On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:33:35 -0700, Peter Pan
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:


    >> After lots of research and group effort from a number of 3585/3595i
    >> users, it appears there is only the less desirable inductive type RF
    >> coupler for that nokia series, despite what looks like a possible
    >> external antenna connector hidden under the back cover.
    >>

    >
    > Here is a link to the user manual for that phone,
    > http://downloads.nokiausa.com/userguides/3589i.PDF
    > Page 8 has this info,
    > ANTENNAS
    > Your phone has three antennas:
    > Internal antenna is always active.
    > Whip antenna is active when fully extended.
    > The GPS antenna is also internal and is activated
    > when placing emergency calls or when is selected
    > from the Location info sharing feature. For more
    > information on Location info sharing, see "GPS (Location info sharing)"
    > on
    > page 62.
    > Do not touch either antenna unnecessarily when the phone is switched on.
    > Contact with the antenna affects call quality and may cause the
    > phone to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed.
    > While in a call, hold the phone to your ear, placing your finger tips
    > on the Nokia badge at the mid-center of the back cover (located
    > below the antenna area on the back of your phone).
    > =======================================
    > While what the previous person said seems to be pretty accurate, there
    > are
    > two points, from the info above, that you need to notice if you want to
    > use
    > one of those inductive coupler things...or the internal jack/test port
    > "Whip antenna is active when fully extended". <---- If you do not fully
    > extend the antenna you have the coupler on, it doesn't do anything.


    Non sequitor. Nothing in the Nokia instructions implies what you've
    incorrectly concluded. The inductive coupler works without the antenna
    being extended. Other similar Nokia phones include an inductive coupler
    with the car kits. The inductive coupler doesn't couple with the external
    whip antenna, but with the internal antenna, which is located in the top
    rear of the phone.
     

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