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3589i external antenna?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by smokey mike, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     



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  2. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  3. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  4. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  5. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  6. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  7. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  8. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  9. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  10. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  11. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  12. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  13. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  14. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  15. In article <e1705cb3.0406191227.2ede9fe1@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic
    >contact the external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or
    >shorted position, when the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna.
    >Appears to be an Inductive type". If there's some gain from the
    >external, it's from the proximity of the the external to the other
    >receiver components. This is easy to verify by unsnapping the patch
    >antenna. There's two tabs, just above the battery. Release and gently
    >pry up from the bottom. there's one smaller tab on the left top
    >corner.
    >
    >One can see the ~35mm GPS antenna segment above the patch cellular
    >antenna. Didn't notice any antenna pattern inside the plastic patch.
    >The entire silver colered section is mettalic
    >
    >The GPS and patch are always connected, at least mechanically. The
    >supplied external antenna is looking more and more like a placebo.


    I just took apart a 3585i. Amazing - same thing. But then I never noticed
    much difference with the antenna extended.

    This probably explains why the 6585, which has no external antenna,
    has comparable reception to the 3585i-3589i. Apparently, Verizon
    isn't going to carry the 6585, even though it undoubtedly would be
    quite popular (it is very similar to the Nokia 6200).

    All this makes me wonder about the relationship between Nokia and VZW.
     
  16. ADVANSPEC

    ADVANSPEC Guest

    >From: davidlind@my-deja.com (David L)
    >Date: 6/19/2004 4:27 PM Eastern


    "I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic contact the
    external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or shorted position, when
    the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna...."

    This may be true for a 3885, but it is WRONG for the 3589i.
    If you take off the back cover of a 3589i you can Clearly see that BOTH the
    top & bottom of the external rod antenna have the metal contact. When the
    antenna is extended it makes contact with the bottom of the whip, & when it is
    retracted it makes contact with the top of the whip, (acting as an upside-down
    antenna, extending downward into the phone.).
    This whip IS the internal antenna of the 3589i when it is retracted.
    The test mode of the 3589i always shows a noticable difference in signal
    strength for me when the whip is extended, however one must realize that,
    unlike the 5185i & other Nokias, the signal strength number is not in "real
    time", & is only sampled every 40 to 60 seconds or so. Simply stand up the
    nokia somewhere, wait to get a sig reading, extend the antenna & wait 'till it
    updates........
     
  17. ADVANSPEC

    ADVANSPEC Guest

    >From: davidlind@my-deja.com (David L)
    >Date: 6/19/2004 4:27 PM Eastern


    "I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic contact the
    external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or shorted position, when
    the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna...."

    This may be true for a 3885, but it is WRONG for the 3589i.
    If you take off the back cover of a 3589i you can Clearly see that BOTH the
    top & bottom of the external rod antenna have the metal contact. When the
    antenna is extended it makes contact with the bottom of the whip, & when it is
    retracted it makes contact with the top of the whip, (acting as an upside-down
    antenna, extending downward into the phone.).
    This whip IS the internal antenna of the 3589i when it is retracted.
    The test mode of the 3589i always shows a noticable difference in signal
    strength for me when the whip is extended, however one must realize that,
    unlike the 5185i & other Nokias, the signal strength number is not in "real
    time", & is only sampled every 40 to 60 seconds or so. Simply stand up the
    nokia somewhere, wait to get a sig reading, extend the antenna & wait 'till it
    updates........
     
  18. ADVANSPEC

    ADVANSPEC Guest

    >From: davidlind@my-deja.com (David L)
    >Date: 6/19/2004 4:27 PM Eastern


    "I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic contact the
    external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or shorted position, when
    the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna...."

    This may be true for a 3885, but it is WRONG for the 3589i.
    If you take off the back cover of a 3589i you can Clearly see that BOTH the
    top & bottom of the external rod antenna have the metal contact. When the
    antenna is extended it makes contact with the bottom of the whip, & when it is
    retracted it makes contact with the top of the whip, (acting as an upside-down
    antenna, extending downward into the phone.).
    This whip IS the internal antenna of the 3589i when it is retracted.
    The test mode of the 3589i always shows a noticable difference in signal
    strength for me when the whip is extended, however one must realize that,
    unlike the 5185i & other Nokias, the signal strength number is not in "real
    time", & is only sampled every 40 to 60 seconds or so. Simply stand up the
    nokia somewhere, wait to get a sig reading, extend the antenna & wait 'till it
    updates........
     
  19. ADVANSPEC

    ADVANSPEC Guest

    >From: davidlind@my-deja.com (David L)
    >Date: 6/19/2004 4:27 PM Eastern


    "I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic contact the
    external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or shorted position, when
    the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna...."

    This may be true for a 3885, but it is WRONG for the 3589i.
    If you take off the back cover of a 3589i you can Clearly see that BOTH the
    top & bottom of the external rod antenna have the metal contact. When the
    antenna is extended it makes contact with the bottom of the whip, & when it is
    retracted it makes contact with the top of the whip, (acting as an upside-down
    antenna, extending downward into the phone.).
    This whip IS the internal antenna of the 3589i when it is retracted.
    The test mode of the 3589i always shows a noticable difference in signal
    strength for me when the whip is extended, however one must realize that,
    unlike the 5185i & other Nokias, the signal strength number is not in "real
    time", & is only sampled every 40 to 60 seconds or so. Simply stand up the
    nokia somewhere, wait to get a sig reading, extend the antenna & wait 'till it
    updates........
     
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    ADVANSPEC Guest

    >From: davidlind@my-deja.com (David L)
    >Date: 6/19/2004 4:27 PM Eastern


    "I took apaart my 3585i and here's what I found. The only metallic contact the
    external antenna has with the phone, is in the down or shorted position, when
    the external is disengaged. There's no direct
    >electrical contact in the up position with the external antenna...."

    This may be true for a 3885, but it is WRONG for the 3589i.
    If you take off the back cover of a 3589i you can Clearly see that BOTH the
    top & bottom of the external rod antenna have the metal contact. When the
    antenna is extended it makes contact with the bottom of the whip, & when it is
    retracted it makes contact with the top of the whip, (acting as an upside-down
    antenna, extending downward into the phone.).
    This whip IS the internal antenna of the 3589i when it is retracted.
    The test mode of the 3589i always shows a noticable difference in signal
    strength for me when the whip is extended, however one must realize that,
    unlike the 5185i & other Nokias, the signal strength number is not in "real
    time", & is only sampled every 40 to 60 seconds or so. Simply stand up the
    nokia somewhere, wait to get a sig reading, extend the antenna & wait 'till it
    updates........
     

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