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3589i external antenna?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by smokey mike, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     



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  2. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  3. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  4. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  5. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  6. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  7. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  8. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  9. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  10. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  11. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  12. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  13. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  14. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  15. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  16. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  17. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  18. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  19. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     
  20. David L

    David L Guest

    smokeymike@yahoo.com (smokey mike) wrote in message news:<c1940673.0406201503.1ff856a1@posting.google.com>...
    > Dave Markson <dave@markson.removeit.net> wrote in message news:<af3bd0ljcnapmf1ultv1cf33cv9pvarngs@4ax.com>...
    > > Extending the antenna gives me around a 3 dBm gain on my 3589i.

    >
    >
    > I have found the same. And one can verify also that if the whip is in
    > the middle position (neither fully up nor down) the sig strength
    > suffers a few dB.
    >
    > Note that the whip probably only helps for the 850 band signals, where
    > it makes the phone ~1/2 wave long. For the 1850 band, the collapsed
    > antenna is already ~1/2 wave long.
    >
    > By the way, what's under the sticker beneathe the batterywhich says
    > "do not remove this sticker"??
    >
    > -mike


    Ok a little recap..

    The external antenna on the 3585i/3595i and others does improve signal
    strength, but my take a while to show up on the debug screen.

    The 3595i has three antennas, a patch a gps and a whip.
    The whipo does have metal contacts at the top and the bottom. However,
    in the extended position the bottom metallic sleeve does not connect
    to any metallic part. It's just a plastics sleeve next to and held on
    by the patch antenna. So the external antenna still some kind of
    inductive signal transfer. Not a bad thing, just surprising. I assume
    Nokia has more sophisticated methods of designing and measuring RF
    transfer than my continuity tester:)
    It appears that patch attenna location is also used by other inductive
    type pickups for external antenna applications.

    The "do not remove patch" is a water damage indicater, changes color
    when dunked. Or so I've heard...

    So, anyone inspired to removed an external antenna connecter from a
    junk 5100/6100 nokia, drill a hole in the 3585i/3595i patch assembly
    then run a couple of leads to the patch contact pins...then use a
    common Nokia adapter to hook a Yagi/magmount up to the 3585/3595i?? A
    hole will need be drilled in the back case as well.
    Not sure wether to go as far as to to scratch off contacts to the
    patch, in order to disengaged any possible signal interaction. To
    switch back to stock, just snap in an unmodified patch assembley and
    perhaps use an undrilled back cover.

    The point is to provide a direct antenna connection, as opposed to
    using the available inductive pickup exteranl adapter, which is the
    only method of attaching an external antenna for this model phone.
    Hopefully, hard wiring will improve signal transfer, over the
    inductive design especially with 800 analog.

    Neeed a junk Nokia's ext connecter and another patch assembly...though
    I doubt drilling one hole in the patch is going to make a huge
    difference.
    -
    David
     

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