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$38 billion, and not a penny more.

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by N9WOS, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <rmarkoff-335A5D.19350318022004@news4.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 19 Feb
    2004 01:35:04 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote:

    >In article <c111bt$1d4pdi$1@ID-192964.news.uni-berlin.de>,
    > "Thomas M. Goethe" <goethe11@lycos.com> wrote:
    >
    >> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
    >> news:rmarkoff-4857BB.18494618022004@news4.west.earthlink.net...
    >> > In article <vYSYb.2087$_3.33940@typhoon.sonic.net>,
    >> > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    >> >
    >> > > In <rmarkoff-963FA4.16362918022004@news4.west.earthlink.net> on Wed, 18

    >> Feb
    >> > > 2004 22:36:29 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > > >In article <jip7305gj04bh7i4pno8n2n6se5qogst4r@4ax.com>,
    >> > > > Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom> wrote:
    >> > > >
    >> > > >> >$47B price tag for AT&T WS lock, stock, and barrel.
    >> > > >> >
    >> > > >> >Roughly 20,000,000 subscribers, overnight.
    >> > > >
    >> > > >$2350 per subscriber. You know if you offered Verizon customers $1000
    >> > > >each, how many would switch?
    >> > >
    >> > > You'd get no spectrum or infrastructure -- apples and oranges.
    >> >
    >> > and how many towers could you build for the $26 billion leftover ???

    >>
    >> None without the spectrum.

    >
    >Fine, take a few billion to buy licenses.


    It's neither that cheap nor that easy.

    >Any way you slice it Cingular
    >paid $2350 per customer, and will learn to regret overpaying, just as
    >AT&T regretted overpaying for TCI and lost billions when their cable
    >operations were sold off to Comcast.


    I doubt it -- I think Cingular got a pretty good deal.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
     



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  2. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <rmarkoff-759AED.19331018022004@news4.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 19 Feb
    2004 01:33:10 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote:

    >In article <TXTYb.2103$_3.34131@typhoon.sonic.net>,
    > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    >
    >> In <rmarkoff-4857BB.18494618022004@news4.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 19 Feb
    >> 2004 00:49:47 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> >In article <vYSYb.2087$_3.33940@typhoon.sonic.net>,
    >> > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >> >>
    >> >> In <rmarkoff-963FA4.16362918022004@news4.west.earthlink.net> on Wed, 18 Feb
    >> >> 2004 22:36:29 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >In article <jip7305gj04bh7i4pno8n2n6se5qogst4r@4ax.com>,
    >> >> > Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom> wrote:
    >> >> >
    >> >> >> >$47B price tag for AT&T WS lock, stock, and barrel.
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Roughly 20,000,000 subscribers, overnight.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >$2350 per subscriber. You know if you offered Verizon customers $1000
    >> >> >each, how many would switch?
    >> >>
    >> >> You'd get no spectrum or infrastructure -- apples and oranges.
    >> >
    >> >and how many towers could you build for the $26 billion leftover ???

    >>
    >> Did you miss the part about spectrum?! And do you have any idea how long and
    >> hard it would be to duplicate the tower locations?! Cingular might well have
    >> overpaid a bit, but there's huge value in the spectrum and infrastructure!

    >
    >OK, how many towers could you build, buy or lease for $27 Bilion ???


    In many locations, the cost is infinite; i.e., no new towers are being
    approved.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
     
  3. "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:rmarkoff-BCE84E.06171119022004@news4.west.earthlink.net...
    > In article <rMWdndb8Qc5tuqndRVn-uA@adelphia.com>,
    > "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:
    >
    > > Open the window, that tiny
    > > little brain needs some fresh air.

    >
    >
    > Your childish insults don't change the fact.
    >
    > CINGULAR has said IF the merger goes through they won't be profitable
    > until 2007. If you disagree with that, you're entitled. But you're
    > arguing with CINGULAR then, not me.


    No, stupid- you are the one who said, "You are aware that corporate
    predictions in this
    industry have always been too rosy??", not Cingular. The post pointed out
    your lack of a clue, and showed two examples that further indicate that you
    don't know what the hell you are talking about.
     
  4. Robert M.

    Robert M. Guest

    In article <NuaZb.2286$_3.36725@typhoon.sonic.net>,
    John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

    > In many locations, the cost is infinite; i.e., no new towers are being
    > approved.


    You are aware that some towers carry equipment for more than one
    cellular carrier?
     
  5. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <rmarkoff-F77127.17072119022004@news4.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 19 Feb
    2004 23:07:21 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote:

    >In article <NuaZb.2286$_3.36725@typhoon.sonic.net>,
    > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    >
    >> In many locations, the cost is infinite; i.e., no new towers are being
    >> approved.

    >
    >You are aware that some towers carry equipment for more than one
    >cellular carrier?


    I am. Doesn't have any bearing on what I wrote.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
     
  6. plane

    plane Guest

    "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message news:<rmarkoff-F2DC83.08363019022004@news4.west.earthlink.net>...
    > In article <c12fg2$jklaa$1@ID-192964.news.uni-berlin.de>,
    > "Thomas M. Goethe" <goethe11@lycos.com> wrote:
    >
    > > The deal here is that we have three mediocre GSM carriers trying to
    > > compete with one strong CDMA carrier.

    >
    > And what is Sprint PCS? Chopped liver?



    Where else can I get relatively good coverage of the entire nation,
    with the F&ca option, 7pmnights, pcs2 pcs, internet on the road with
    vision tether, for 750 anytime for $60---In my geographic area, it's
    the only service I can get on both sides of the tn/ky border---my
    verizon is worthless in ky, so far----

    Like another guy posted, it's all an individual thing, but I am well
    pleased
     

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