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"A or B" side?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Bob, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. JW <jw@jw.net> wrote:

    > Actually Steven, VZW in Los Angeles was orginally PacTel and is the the B
    > side. What became AT&T is the A side. In 1994 if I remeber correctly PacTel
    > spun off it cellular unit and it became AirTouch.


    Bah, you're right. I just got rid of my VZW phones but I know they are
    both set to Automatic A :)

    I think AirTouch was created from a cellular unit of USWest, though, right?
    and PacTel sold to USWest...

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  2. JW <jw@jw.net> wrote:

    > Actually Steven, VZW in Los Angeles was orginally PacTel and is the the B
    > side. What became AT&T is the A side. In 1994 if I remeber correctly PacTel
    > spun off it cellular unit and it became AirTouch.


    Bah, you're right. I just got rid of my VZW phones but I know they are
    both set to Automatic A :)

    I think AirTouch was created from a cellular unit of USWest, though, right?
    and PacTel sold to USWest...

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  3. JW <jw@jw.net> wrote:

    > Actually Steven, VZW in Los Angeles was orginally PacTel and is the the B
    > side. What became AT&T is the A side. In 1994 if I remeber correctly PacTel
    > spun off it cellular unit and it became AirTouch.


    Bah, you're right. I just got rid of my VZW phones but I know they are
    both set to Automatic A :)

    I think AirTouch was created from a cellular unit of USWest, though, right?
    and PacTel sold to USWest...

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  4. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

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  5. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
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  6. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

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  7. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
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  8. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
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  9. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
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  10. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
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  11. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
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  12. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  13. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
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    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
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  14. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  15. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  16. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  17. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  18. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
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  19. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

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  20. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:30:59 GMT, Dave <davids1955@earthlink.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I believe A/B side was originally when analog only cellular came out.
    >>The B side was usually the "wireline" phone company and A side was the
    >>other. With mergers and acquisitions this may not always be the case now
    >>though.

    >
    > Here, VZW is the A side carrier (Cleveland/Akron/Canton, OH) and
    > Alltel is the B side carrier. I'm not entirely sure how that ended up
    > that way, likely through various acquisitions


    Easy. VZW consists of Bell Atlantic Mobile + AirTouch + GTE Wireless +
    Primeco. AirTouch and GTE Wireless both had a presence in Cleveland. The
    decision was made to flip AirTouch, which was A, and GTE (B-side) sold off
    its Cleveland cellular network to Alltel.

    > This isn't the case in all markets with A/B "cellular" carriers. In
    > Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem, NC, Alltel's system IS in
    > friendly roam status for VZW users.


    No point to roam on Alltel if you're a VZW customer in Cleveland - the
    footprint is pretty much identical. You CAN roam on Extended Network on
    Alltel in Youngstown because Verizon isn't in Youngstown.

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    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
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