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Any problem using non-Motorola batteries and chargers?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Tom, Jan 15, 2004.

  1. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <34tRb.6805540$Of.1085071@news.easynews.com>, AximGuy <> wrote:
    >On 26 Jan 2004 19:53:11 GMT, CharlesH wrote:
    >
    >> I think that the problem is that there exists "conditioning chargers"
    >> intended for NiCd batteries which completely drain the battery, then
    >> recharge it.

    >
    >You never want to completely drain NiCd batteries. Conditioning chargers
    >drain the battery down to 1 volt/cell.


    In any case, I think a "conditioning charger' would kill a LiIon battery
    by over-discharging it. They were designed for NiCd chemistry.



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  2. AximGuy

    AximGuy Guest

    On 27 Jan 2004 21:02:11 GMT, CharlesH wrote:

    > In any case, I think a "conditioning charger' would kill a LiIon battery
    > by over-discharging it. They were designed for NiCd chemistry.


    I agree.
  3. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On 27 Jan 2004 21:02:11 GMT, hoch@exemplary.invalid (CharlesH) posted
    in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >In article <34tRb.6805540$Of.1085071@news.easynews.com>, AximGuy <> wrote:
    >>On 26 Jan 2004 19:53:11 GMT, CharlesH wrote:
    >>
    >>> I think that the problem is that there exists "conditioning chargers"
    >>> intended for NiCd batteries which completely drain the battery, then
    >>> recharge it.

    >>
    >>You never want to completely drain NiCd batteries. Conditioning chargers
    >>drain the battery down to 1 volt/cell.

    >
    >In any case, I think a "conditioning charger' would kill a LiIon battery
    >by over-discharging it. They were designed for NiCd chemistry.


    It would also charge it incorrectly. And LiIon chargers don't
    discharge.
  4. David L

    David L Guest

    "Jason White" <cellular.products@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<MgVQb.15710$mw2.10577@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>...
    > #1 Lithium batteries do not form a memory. NiCD batteries do and NiMh can
    >
    > after extended use.
    >
    > #2 Reconditioning works by suddenly dumping any remaining charge in the
    >
    > battery, and then doing a full charge in order to avoid the memory issue.
    >
    > This sudden rapid charge dump can damage a lithium cell. Why? I'm not sure,
    >
    > I'm no chemist, I just know.
    >


    Welcome to Battery University
    Address:http://www.batteryuniversity.com/


    > However, an excellent compromise has been
    >
    > reached. Several suppliers in China now build their batteries with cells
    >
    > from Japan. You can often see this by looking at the stickers "Assembled in
    >
    > China, Japanese Cells" or something of the like. So... you get cheap
    >
    > assembly but with good parts.
    >


    Not sure how to make certain they really are Japanese,
    cells and not just phoney lables. Guess someone in the industry would
    know the difference, after opening the case up.
    Chinese makers definitley lie about the mah rating. Just throw
    aftermarket 1400mah rated battery on a scale and see what it weighs,
    compared to a lesser rated OEM. If it's the same weight or lighter,
    seems a very good chance everything on the label is BS.

    -
    David

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