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Best phone in fringe areas

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Jeff P., Sep 22, 2003.

  1. Jeff P.

    Jeff P. Guest

    If you are someone who prefers the multi-morphin power ringtones, built in
    game boys, pda internet wabledables, strawberry or blackberry patches, and
    built in dvd players in your cell phones, then please ignore this message...
    Also, if you live in the city please ignore this as well...

    But for those of you who can share some experiences with various models of
    Tri-mode CDMA phones (both old and new), I would really like some advice.
    What phones have the best RF reception in fringe, rural areas? Which work
    well in analog mode? What I'm looking for is a hopefully inexpensive phone
    that would be highly reliable, without all the dribble drabble "features"
    they keep adding to get in the way of me actually talking on the darn thing.

    What I'm thinking about doing is buying an America's Choice plan, taking
    whatever piece of crud phone they give me for free (or close to it) just to
    get service, and then trade it on e-bay for something better. And by better,
    I don't me a fancy new model they're selling now either. I mean one that
    works, and works good.

    Thanks,
    Jeff P.



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  2. BigAl

    BigAl Guest

    That's an easy one

    Startac 7867W for Verizon

    Used it in upstate NY (around Lake George) this year and the analog symbol
    came on many times. (In fact, in the cabin we stayed at, only the analog
    symbol stayed on). If we had a newer colored faceplate, downloadable
    ringtone, 'kids' phone, we'd be out of luck!

    Al


    "Jeff P." <jeff_phil-NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:spvbb.7145$A51.3883@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com...
    > If you are someone who prefers the multi-morphin power ringtones, built in
    > game boys, pda internet wabledables, strawberry or blackberry patches, and
    > built in dvd players in your cell phones, then please ignore this

    message...
    > Also, if you live in the city please ignore this as well...
    >
    > But for those of you who can share some experiences with various models of
    > Tri-mode CDMA phones (both old and new), I would really like some advice.
    > What phones have the best RF reception in fringe, rural areas? Which work
    > well in analog mode? What I'm looking for is a hopefully inexpensive phone
    > that would be highly reliable, without all the dribble drabble "features"
    > they keep adding to get in the way of me actually talking on the darn

    thing.
    >
    > What I'm thinking about doing is buying an America's Choice plan, taking
    > whatever piece of crud phone they give me for free (or close to it) just

    to
    > get service, and then trade it on e-bay for something better. And by

    better,
    > I don't me a fancy new model they're selling now either. I mean one that
    > works, and works good.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Jeff P.
    >
    >
    >
    >
  3. Samauri

    Samauri Guest

    "Jeff P." <jeff_phil-NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >> But for those of you who can share some experiences with various models of
    >> Tri-mode CDMA phones (both old and new), I would really like some advice.
    >> What phones have the best RF reception in fringe, rural areas? Which work
    >> well in analog mode? What I'm looking for is a hopefully inexpensive phone
    >> that would be highly reliable, without all the dribble drabble "features"
    >> they keep adding to get in the way of me actually talking on the darn thing.


    I have had excellent performance from the Samsung T-300 and Audiovox 9000.
    Both are good, solid phones without the new crap.
  4. Prilosec

    Prilosec Guest

    My local Verizon store still admits this was their best digital phone ever
    (StarTac).

    "BigAl" <BigAn990@knet.com> wrote in message
    news:%LAbb.2446$JM.1753589@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > That's an easy one
    >
    > Startac 7867W for Verizon
    >
    > Used it in upstate NY (around Lake George) this year and the analog symbol
    > came on many times. (In fact, in the cabin we stayed at, only the analog
    > symbol stayed on). If we had a newer colored faceplate, downloadable
    > ringtone, 'kids' phone, we'd be out of luck!
    >
    > Al
    >
    >
    > "Jeff P." <jeff_phil-NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:spvbb.7145$A51.3883@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com...
    > > If you are someone who prefers the multi-morphin power ringtones, built

    in
    > > game boys, pda internet wabledables, strawberry or blackberry patches,

    and
    > > built in dvd players in your cell phones, then please ignore this

    > message...
    > > Also, if you live in the city please ignore this as well...
    > >
    > > But for those of you who can share some experiences with various models

    of
    > > Tri-mode CDMA phones (both old and new), I would really like some

    advice.
    > > What phones have the best RF reception in fringe, rural areas? Which

    work
    > > well in analog mode? What I'm looking for is a hopefully inexpensive

    phone
    > > that would be highly reliable, without all the dribble drabble

    "features"
    > > they keep adding to get in the way of me actually talking on the darn

    > thing.
    > >
    > > What I'm thinking about doing is buying an America's Choice plan, taking
    > > whatever piece of crud phone they give me for free (or close to it) just

    > to
    > > get service, and then trade it on e-bay for something better. And by

    > better,
    > > I don't me a fancy new model they're selling now either. I mean one that
    > > works, and works good.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Jeff P.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  5. Phill.

    Phill. Guest

    In article <bkmrjq$2na$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, "Prilosec" <purple@nni.net>
    wrote:

    > My local Verizon store still admits this was their best digital phone ever
    > (StarTac).


    You have a store that speaks?
  6. George

    George Guest

    "BigAl" <BigAn990@knet.com> wrote in message
    news:%LAbb.2446$JM.1753589@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > That's an easy one
    >
    > Startac 7867W for Verizon


    I agree. I just switched back to my old "retired" Startac after my new phone
    got damaged. It is amazing how much better it works in fringe areas. We were
    biking in a gorge yesterday. My current phone usually lost signal 1/4 mile
    away from the lot which is in the gorge. The Startac still had signal.

    If you talk to anyone who knows technical details they will tell you that it
    was the last good phone made. Unfortuantely all of the emphasis is on color,
    ringtones and games and the actual "phone" capabilities have been reduced.

    >
    > Used it in upstate NY (around Lake George) this year and the analog symbol
    > came on many times. (In fact, in the cabin we stayed at, only the analog
    > symbol stayed on). If we had a newer colored faceplate, downloadable
    > ringtone, 'kids' phone, we'd be out of luck!
    >
    > Al
    >
    >
    > "Jeff P." <jeff_phil-NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
  7. Sterling

    Sterling Guest

    I'd also recommend AudioVox CDM-9500.. It works quite well in fringe areas.
    Motorola V60i isn't too bad either.

    "Jeff P." <jeff_phil-NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:spvbb.7145$A51.3883@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com...
    > If you are someone who prefers the multi-morphin power ringtones, built in
    > game boys, pda internet wabledables, strawberry or blackberry patches, and
    > built in dvd players in your cell phones, then please ignore this

    message...
    > Also, if you live in the city please ignore this as well...
    >
    > But for those of you who can share some experiences with various models of
    > Tri-mode CDMA phones (both old and new), I would really like some advice.
    > What phones have the best RF reception in fringe, rural areas? Which work
    > well in analog mode? What I'm looking for is a hopefully inexpensive phone
    > that would be highly reliable, without all the dribble drabble "features"
    > they keep adding to get in the way of me actually talking on the darn

    thing.
    >
    > What I'm thinking about doing is buying an America's Choice plan, taking
    > whatever piece of crud phone they give me for free (or close to it) just

    to
    > get service, and then trade it on e-bay for something better. And by

    better,
    > I don't me a fancy new model they're selling now either. I mean one that
    > works, and works good.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Jeff P.
    >
    >
    >
    >
  8. FLUG PoP

    FLUG PoP Guest

    The Timeport P8767 . Was the best phone, great analog. I miss it . I beat the
    crap out of it. It finally died after the microphone started cutting out.










    There's always a smart ass in the crowd.. Remove NOSPAM to respond
  9. p lane

    p lane Guest

    I hate to pour water on you, but in a true fringe area, with any
    handheld, you are SOL-- i am in such an area, and regularly use a
    samsung tri mode,also have a sanyo 4900 which is great on the sprint
    service and actually works half way decently with analog--but i still
    maintain an old moto install analog which is the only thing which will
    work in the boonies. I am sure others will tell you the same
    thing---and even the handheld analog won't do it either---takes the
    power and the external antenna---if I'm not mistaken, even the gm onstar
    thing is analog---wonder why

    "Sterling" <buggyboyvt@icehouse.net> wrote in article
    <E8Fbb.16$EK2.46156@news.uswest.net>:
    > I'd also recommend AudioVox CDM-9500.. It works quite well in fringe areas.
    > Motorola V60i isn't too bad either.
    >
    > "Jeff P." <jeff_phil-NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:spvbb.7145$A51.3883@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com...
    > > If you are someone who prefers the multi-morphin power ringtones, built in
    > > game boys, pda internet wabledables, strawberry or blackberry patches, and
    > > built in dvd players in your cell phones, then please ignore this

    > message...
    > > Also, if you live in the city please ignore this as well...
    > >
    > > But for those of you who can share some experiences with various models of
    > > Tri-mode CDMA phones (both old and new), I would really like some advice.
    > > What phones have the best RF reception in fringe, rural areas? Which work
    > > well in analog mode? What I'm looking for is a hopefully inexpensive phone
    > > that would be highly reliable, without all the dribble drabble "features"
    > > they keep adding to get in the way of me actually talking on the darn

    > thing.
    > >
    > > What I'm thinking about doing is buying an America's Choice plan, taking
    > > whatever piece of crud phone they give me for free (or close to it) just

    > to
    > > get service, and then trade it on e-bay for something better. And by

    > better,
    > > I don't me a fancy new model they're selling now either. I mean one that
    > > works, and works good.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Jeff P.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  10. Larry W4CSC

    Larry W4CSC Guest

    On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:46:19 -0000, planenospam@usa.com (p lane)
    wrote:

    >I hate to pour water on you, but in a true fringe area, with any
    >handheld, you are SOL-- i am in such an area, and regularly use a
    >samsung tri mode,also have a sanyo 4900 which is great on the sprint
    >service and actually works half way decently with analog--but i still
    >maintain an old moto install analog which is the only thing which will
    >work in the boonies. I am sure others will tell you the same
    >thing---and even the handheld analog won't do it either---takes the
    >power and the external antenna---if I'm not mistaken, even the gm onstar
    >thing is analog---wonder why
    >

    Correctimundo! NOTHING in the modulation scheme can overcome the RF
    physics of POWER and ANTENNA HEIGHT. It's why your local FM radio
    station pays millions for a 800 ft tower and the light bill on a 100KW
    ERP transmitter.....

    WABC-AM77 doesn't run 50KW because they're trying to light up New
    Jersey.......POWER IS OUR FRIEND on any band!

    Hmm.....I got a 500W paging amp in the warehouse for the 800 Mhz
    band.....(c;



    Larry W4CSC

    3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
    gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
    conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
  11. Rich Cacace

    Rich Cacace Guest

    What about the 7868W phone? Is it similar? A friend of mine wants to sell
    one & I have no ides of how much it's worth.

    "Prilosec" <purple@nni.net> wrote in message
    news:bkmrjq$2na$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
    > My local Verizon store still admits this was their best digital phone ever
    > (StarTac).
    >
    > "BigAl" <BigAn990@knet.com> wrote in message
    > news:%LAbb.2446$JM.1753589@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > > That's an easy one
    > >
    > > Startac 7867W for Verizon
    > >
    > > Used it in upstate NY (around Lake George) this year and the analog

    symbol
    > > came on many times. (In fact, in the cabin we stayed at, only the

    analog
    > > symbol stayed on). If we had a newer colored faceplate, downloadable
    > > ringtone, 'kids' phone, we'd be out of luck!
    > >
    > > Al
    > >
    > >
    > > "Jeff P." <jeff_phil-NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > > news:spvbb.7145$A51.3883@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com...
    > > > If you are someone who prefers the multi-morphin power ringtones,

    built
    > in
    > > > game boys, pda internet wabledables, strawberry or blackberry patches,

    > and
    > > > built in dvd players in your cell phones, then please ignore this

    > > message...
    > > > Also, if you live in the city please ignore this as well...
    > > >
    > > > But for those of you who can share some experiences with various

    models
    > of
    > > > Tri-mode CDMA phones (both old and new), I would really like some

    > advice.
    > > > What phones have the best RF reception in fringe, rural areas? Which

    > work
    > > > well in analog mode? What I'm looking for is a hopefully inexpensive

    > phone
    > > > that would be highly reliable, without all the dribble drabble

    > "features"
    > > > they keep adding to get in the way of me actually talking on the darn

    > > thing.
    > > >
    > > > What I'm thinking about doing is buying an America's Choice plan,

    taking
    > > > whatever piece of crud phone they give me for free (or close to it)

    just
    > > to
    > > > get service, and then trade it on e-bay for something better. And by

    > > better,
    > > > I don't me a fancy new model they're selling now either. I mean one

    that
    > > > works, and works good.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Jeff P.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  12. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:57:28 -0400, "Prilosec" <purple@nni.net> posted
    in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >My local Verizon store still admits this was their best digital phone ever
    >(StarTac).


    It's the best handset ever made. Big fonts, great audio in both
    directions and an RF section that hasn't been beaten (or even come
    close to) yet. Even though I'm using v60s now, I'm keeping my 7868s.
  13. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:06:27 GMT, "Rich Cacace" <richcacace-REMOVE TO
    REPLY-@optonline.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >"Prilosec" <purple@nni.net> wrote in message
    >news:bkmrjq$2na$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
    >> "BigAl" <BigAn990@knet.com> wrote in message
    >> news:%LAbb.2446$JM.1753589@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    >> > That's an easy one


    >> > Startac 7867W for Verizon


    >> > Used it in upstate NY (around Lake George) this year and the analog symbol
    >> > came on many times. (In fact, in the cabin we stayed at, only the analog
    >> > symbol stayed on). If we had a newer colored faceplate, downloadable
    >> > ringtone, 'kids' phone, we'd be out of luck!


    >> My local Verizon store still admits this was their best digital phone ever
    >> (StarTac).


    >What about the 7868W phone? Is it similar?


    To what? The 7868 is what's being discussed. (Assume the W - no one
    ever uses it, but there's only one model, officially called 7868W,
    commonly called 7868, not 2.)

    > A friend of mine wants to sell
    >one & I have no ides of how much it's worth.


    If Radio Shack still has any, they're selling them for around $150
    with manual and charger (and nothing else - they're refurbs), so that
    tells you what they're worth.
  14. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On 22 Sep 2003 17:06:48 GMT, flugpop@aol.comNOSPAM (FLUG PoP) posted
    in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >The Timeport P8767


    That's the 7868 with a different screen and case.

    > Was the best phone


    No doubt about that.
  15. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:46:19 -0000, planenospam@usa.com (p lane)
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I hate to pour water on you, but in a true fringe area, with any
    >handheld, you are SOL-- i am in such an area, and regularly use a
    >samsung tri mode,also have a sanyo 4900 which is great on the sprint
    >service and actually works half way decently with analog--but i still
    >maintain an old moto install analog which is the only thing which will
    >work in the boonies. I am sure others will tell you the same
    >thing---and even the handheld analog won't do it either---takes the
    >power and the external antenna---if I'm not mistaken, even the gm onstar
    >thing is analog---wonder why


    Analog doesn't increase the range - but the 3 watt transmitter sure
    does.
  16. Jon Clark

    Jon Clark Guest

    Well, yes and no. CDMA has a maximum power level (by design) of 200 mW.
    Analog (AMPS) is allowed to transmit at up to 600mW on hanheld phones and 3W
    for installed / bag phones (FCC rules).

    However, CDMA uses advanced error correction schemes that allow the DSP's to
    eek out as much range at 200 mW as AMPS does at 600 (sometimes even a little
    more). The catch: it has to be a 'naked' cell (i.e. you have to be the only
    user on it), due to the well-documented phenomena of CDMA "cell breathing."
    On a loaded cell, the AMPS channels will generally out-reach the CDMA
    coverage based on how heavily loaded the CDMA carrier is.

    I'm sure someone can probably explain it in more depth - but this is how I
    understand it works in practice...

    -Jon

    "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
    news:537vmvg8nvrvhjsu09j0ih0dvk2iapqgs1@Pern.rk...
    > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:46:19 -0000, planenospam@usa.com (p lane)
    > posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    > >I hate to pour water on you, but in a true fringe area, with any
    > >handheld, you are SOL-- i am in such an area, and regularly use a
    > >samsung tri mode,also have a sanyo 4900 which is great on the sprint
    > >service and actually works half way decently with analog--but i still
    > >maintain an old moto install analog which is the only thing which will
    > >work in the boonies. I am sure others will tell you the same
    > >thing---and even the handheld analog won't do it either---takes the
    > >power and the external antenna---if I'm not mistaken, even the gm onstar
    > >thing is analog---wonder why

    >
    > Analog doesn't increase the range - but the 3 watt transmitter sure
    > does.
  17. David L

    David L Guest

    "Jeff P." <jeff_phil-NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in article
    <spvbb.7145$A51.3883@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>:
    > If you are someone who prefers the multi-morphin power ringtones, built in
    > game boys, pda internet wabledables, strawberry or blackberry patches, and
    > built in dvd players in your cell phones, then please ignore this message...
    > Also, if you live in the city please ignore this as well...
    >
    > But for those of you who can share some experiences with various models of
    > Tri-mode CDMA phones (both old and new), I would really like some advice.
    > What phones have the best RF reception in fringe, rural areas? Which work
    > well in analog mode? What I'm looking for is a hopefully inexpensive phone
    > that would be highly reliable, without all the dribble drabble "features"
    > they keep adding to get in the way of me actually talking on the darn thing.
    >
    > What I'm thinking about doing is buying an America's Choice plan, taking
    > whatever piece of crud phone they give me for free (or close to it) just to
    > get service, and then trade it on e-bay for something better. And by better,
    > I don't me a fancy new model they're selling now either. I mean one that
    > works, and works good.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Jeff P.
    >
    >
    >
    >



    You might get a better bang for the buck getting a nicer phone for a few
    dollars, instead of a free piece of junk to resell.

    Some of the bell and whistle phones also perform well. Some of the
    simpler handsets perform poorly.

    The audio quality and analog performance of the 7868 is very good
    compared with many modern handsets. The ergonomics are outstanding as
    well. The UI is workable but not my favorite. It's been retired for yet
    another unique Motorola UI as found in the V60.

    I've compared the Audiovox 9500, motorola 7868 and v60i out in the hills
    and camping several times.

    The 7868 is slightly better than the Audiovox in analog mode.

    It did not perform as well in digital fringe areas to either the v60 or
    9500.

    The 7868 keypads don't hold up well, in my experience. The China made
    fit and finish is poor. The phone and hinge flex quite a bit and feel
    like a soft shell crab in the hand.

    The 2 line display is very small and hard to read and navigate.


    The 7868 earpiece design and output is the best I have ever used.
    In contrast the Audiovox 9500 like some other phones tends to boost the
    higher frequencies. I suspect this emphisis makes digital dropouts and
    artifacts more noticable.
    Finding the speaker sweet spot is a hunt:(

    Despite having a whole bunch of useless bells and whistles, the Audiovox
    has very good analog and digital performance and that's why I purchased
    it. The handset's Japanese build is outstanding.

    Perhaps it's just the really long 6" antenna that gives this phone a
    slight edge.

    300x5 names and 3 addresses, a scheduler calender and alarm are very
    useful. The very bright color screen is a plus for older eyes.

    5 to 7 lines of screen info is very handy.

    I thought ringtones were a bunch of BS, but assigning a a "dog bark" to
    one particular incomming caller, for example, allows one to know who's
    calling without even looking at the phone.

    The one constant limiting factor is the handsets power to get a signal
    back to the tower. Despite a few standouts on each end of the spectrum,
    there doesn't seem to be a really huge difference in side by side
    testing.
    It appears most phones can be "upgraded" to 3 watts for a few hundred
    bucks, using a linear amp and external antenna.

    -
    David






    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  18. Rich Cacace

    Rich Cacace Guest

    The original poster said Startac 7867W & my friend has an old Startac 7868W.
    Is there any difference between the performance & what do you think it's
    worth?

    "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
    news:to6vmvs7duksghtlvd92dsvd37d4pnb6aj@Pern.rk...
    > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:06:27 GMT, "Rich Cacace" <richcacace-REMOVE TO
    > REPLY-@optonline.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    > >"Prilosec" <purple@nni.net> wrote in message
    > >news:bkmrjq$2na$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
    > >> "BigAl" <BigAn990@knet.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:%LAbb.2446$JM.1753589@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > >> > That's an easy one

    >
    > >> > Startac 7867W for Verizon

    >
    > >> > Used it in upstate NY (around Lake George) this year and the analog

    symbol
    > >> > came on many times. (In fact, in the cabin we stayed at, only the

    analog
    > >> > symbol stayed on). If we had a newer colored faceplate, downloadable
    > >> > ringtone, 'kids' phone, we'd be out of luck!

    >
    > >> My local Verizon store still admits this was their best digital phone

    ever
    > >> (StarTac).

    >
    > >What about the 7868W phone? Is it similar?

    >
    > To what? The 7868 is what's being discussed. (Assume the W - no one
    > ever uses it, but there's only one model, officially called 7868W,
    > commonly called 7868, not 2.)
    >
    > > A friend of mine wants to sell
    > >one & I have no ides of how much it's worth.

    >
    > If Radio Shack still has any, they're selling them for around $150
    > with manual and charger (and nothing else - they're refurbs), so that
    > tells you what they're worth.
  19. penael

    penael Guest

    IMHO: Best phone ever? That's easy: Audiovox CDM-9000.


    "Rich Cacace" <richcacace-REMOVE TO REPLY-@optonline.net> wrote in
    article <_sYbb.17998$JM.7795947@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>:
    > The original poster said Startac 7867W & my friend has an old Startac 7868W.
    > Is there any difference between the performance & what do you think it's
    > worth?
    >
    > "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
    > news:to6vmvs7duksghtlvd92dsvd37d4pnb6aj@Pern.rk...
    > > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:06:27 GMT, "Rich Cacace" <richcacace-REMOVE TO
    > > REPLY-@optonline.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    > >
    > > >"Prilosec" <purple@nni.net> wrote in message
    > > >news:bkmrjq$2na$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
    > > >> "BigAl" <BigAn990@knet.com> wrote in message
    > > >> news:%LAbb.2446$JM.1753589@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > > >> > That's an easy one

    > >
    > > >> > Startac 7867W for Verizon

    > >
    > > >> > Used it in upstate NY (around Lake George) this year and the analog

    > symbol
    > > >> > came on many times. (In fact, in the cabin we stayed at, only the

    > analog
    > > >> > symbol stayed on). If we had a newer colored faceplate, downloadable
    > > >> > ringtone, 'kids' phone, we'd be out of luck!

    > >
    > > >> My local Verizon store still admits this was their best digital phone

    > ever
    > > >> (StarTac).

    > >
    > > >What about the 7868W phone? Is it similar?

    > >
    > > To what? The 7868 is what's being discussed. (Assume the W - no one
    > > ever uses it, but there's only one model, officially called 7868W,
    > > commonly called 7868, not 2.)
    > >
    > > > A friend of mine wants to sell
    > > >one & I have no ides of how much it's worth.

    > >
    > > If Radio Shack still has any, they're selling them for around $150
    > > with manual and charger (and nothing else - they're refurbs), so that
    > > tells you what they're worth.

    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  20. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:07:54 GMT, "Rich Cacace" <richcacace-REMOVE TO
    REPLY-@optonline.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >The original poster said Startac 7867W & my friend has an old Startac 7868W.


    Oops. My typo in my eyes.

    >Is there any difference between the performance & what do you think it's
    >worth?


    Big difference. Go for the 7868.

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