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Best verizon phone at this point?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by rpr, Feb 29, 2004.

  1. "Mike Ward" <mward@iname.remove-this-part.com> wrote in message
    news:1ln640hfatnr7u8dh6j6bv5juktrbnjs4h@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:06:36 -0500, "George" <George@nospam.invalid>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
    > >news:%ls0c.15400$aT1.2888@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > >> Verizon Phones to avoid at all costs:
    > >>
    > >> LGVX4400

    > >
    > >Why? Between my friends and I we probably have 20 of them. And everyone

    is
    > >happy with them.

    >
    > The original responder fashions himself as a "cellular expert", and
    > has put up a handful of Web sites targeting cellular users in
    > different parts of the country, including his own area, the San
    > Francisco Bay Area.


    Thank you.

    > In the real world, there are a bunch of people like myself and you and
    > your friends, who are quite happy with the 4400.


    I suspect that the people that are happy with the VX4400 do not use it in
    fringe signal areas, as I have. In any case, it's almost moot, as Verizon
    has discontinued the VX4400, and replaced it with the less capable VX4500,
    which should be avoided due to the lack of AMPS.

    When I recommend handsets, I do so based heavily on the handset's ability to
    hold a signal in fringe areas, because coverage is the most important
    attribute of a handset, IMVAIO. There are plenty of web sites that evaluate
    handsets based on other factors, i.e. ring tones, cameras, quality of color
    display, etc. I readily admit that my recommendations are heavily skewed
    toward RF performance, and to coverage. I would never recommend a Verizon or
    Sprint Handset that lacks AMPS, at least not for the next few years or so.

    I'm in the process of updating the handset portion of my sites:
    http://nordicgroup.us/ssub/handset.htm
     



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  2. Mike Ward

    Mike Ward Guest

    On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:21:12 GMT, "Steven M. Scharf"
    <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote:

    >> The original responder fashions himself as a "cellular expert", and
    >> has put up a handful of Web sites targeting cellular users in
    >> different parts of the country, including his own area, the San
    >> Francisco Bay Area.

    >
    >Thank you.


    Who said I meant it to be a compliment? ;)

    When I say you "fashion yourself as a 'cellular expert'", it comes
    with an implied question. Unless it's somewhere on your site and I
    missed it, you don't provide any information about your background.
    You're just a guy with a domain name or two, and a Web publishing
    program, until you prove otherwise.

    >I suspect that the people that are happy with the VX4400 do not use it in
    >fringe signal areas, as I have. In any case, it's almost moot, as Verizon
    >has discontinued the VX4400, and replaced it with the less capable VX4500,
    >which should be avoided due to the lack of AMPS.


    I've used the 4400 in a lot of fringe signal areas, and have yet to be
    disappointed, in both AMPS areas and digital areas.

    I agree with you on the 4500, by the way, if only because I wouldn't
    personally buy a phone without analog. But for someone who would
    never venture outside Verizon's digital coverage area (which is quite
    extensive), the 4500 may be a good phone.

    I believe the 4400B is still around in some quantity, though I don't
    know for how long.

    >When I recommend handsets, I do so based heavily on the handset's ability to
    >hold a signal in fringe areas, because coverage is the most important
    >attribute of a handset, IMVAIO. There are plenty of web sites that evaluate
    >handsets based on other factors, i.e. ring tones, cameras, quality of color
    >display, etc. I readily admit that my recommendations are heavily skewed
    >toward RF performance, and to coverage. I would never recommend a Verizon or
    >Sprint Handset that lacks AMPS, at least not for the next few years or so.


    And my personal experience is that the 4400 has fine RF performance,
    though again, I'm not you.

    Mike
     
  3. gandersnatch

    gandersnatch Guest

    I agree, having AMPS is important to have for fringe areas.

    As far as coverage goes... If you're concerned, make sure the phone
    has AMPS and if you're really concerned buy an external antenna.

    I bought one for my v120c (plugs into a little port under a rubber
    plug at the base of the extendable stubby on the back of phone). I
    have to say that on several recent trips I had reception when none of
    my other coworkers did (in AMPS)... I simply slap the mag-mount
    antenna on the roof of the rental car and I'm good to go. In the
    motel, I slap it on the metal window AC unit (for ground plane) and I
    have sketchy coverage (but coverage none the less). My job sends me
    to really out of the way places ;)

    Basically any external antenna is better than the built in, because
    there isn't an 8-lb ball of flesh and bone sucking up the signal right
    next to it... ;)

    I too want to upgrade. I don't really see anything out I really want
    except the T730c...

    I just wish the LCD had more colors instead of just the 4K and it had
    a built-in speakerphone. I would like something different so I want a
    color flip, tri-mode, with external antenna port and a speaker phone.
    I also cannot get a camera because I too have issues with cameras in
    my workplace.

    Does anyone know if there are any Motorola phones on the horizon that
    meet my requirements? How about another brand (even candy-bar style
    phones)?

    Thanks,
    Gander
     
  4. Kevin Weaver

    Kevin Weaver Guest

    Thats sad. You the expert on phones. and your sister in law wont listen to
    you on which to buy. :)


    "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
    news:e9x0c.15699$aT1.2797@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    >
    > "Don R" <drennard@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:O2x0c.27535$W74.10492@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > > My VX4400 has better RF performance than my V60s and my wife's 7868. The
    > > VX4400 is the best overall phone phone Verizon has. Some phones may beat

    > it
    > > a one capability, but when you add it all up, best overall score goes to

    > the
    > > VX4400.

    >
    > My experiences are exactly the opposite. I was in Yosemite two weeks ago.

    My
    > sister-in-laws VX4400 had no coverage; I had adequate coverage with my
    > Motorola. This was on AMPS, and admittedly AMPS is a strong point for
    > Motorola and a weak point for LG and Samsung. Digitally, at her house we
    > both get signals but the Motorola has much better reception while she is
    > constantly dropping calls. She's in a fringe area, on a hill, so this is

    why
    > the signal isn't full strength, but the Motorola handset has no problem.
    > She's turning in the VX4400, but Verizon is really pushing it hard as it's

    a
    > very inexpensive phone for them, while the Motorolas are less profitable.
    > Funny thing is she had an LG VX510 prior to this one, and it was just as
    > bad, and she knew how much better Motorola worked at her house, but she

    got
    > another LG. Slow learner.
    >
    >
     
  5. Scott

    Scott Guest

    "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message news:<e9x0c.15699$aT1.2797@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
    > "Don R" <drennard@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:O2x0c.27535$W74.10492@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > > My VX4400 has better RF performance than my V60s and my wife's 7868. The
    > > VX4400 is the best overall phone phone Verizon has. Some phones may beat

    > it
    > > a one capability, but when you add it all up, best overall score goes to

    > the
    > > VX4400.

    >
    > My experiences are exactly the opposite. I was in Yosemite two weeks ago. My
    > sister-in-laws VX4400 had no coverage; I had adequate coverage with my
    > Motorola. This was on AMPS, and admittedly AMPS is a strong point for
    > Motorola and a weak point for LG and Samsung. Digitally, at her house we
    > both get signals but the Motorola has much better reception while she is
    > constantly dropping calls. She's in a fringe area, on a hill, so this is why
    > the signal isn't full strength, but the Motorola handset has no problem.
    > She's turning in the VX4400, but Verizon is really pushing it hard as it's a
    > very inexpensive phone for them, while the Motorolas are less profitable.
    > Funny thing is she had an LG VX510 prior to this one, and it was just as
    > bad, and she knew how much better Motorola worked at her house, but she got
    > another LG. Slow learner.


    Steven,

    Your situation sounds similar to mine. I will be doing a lot of
    camping, traveling in the mountains, etc. where I need good coverage
    and reception. What do you (or anyone else in this group) think of
    the Audiovox 8600? I've not shopped for phones for about 3 yrs now so
    have no idea what to look for or avoid. The Audiovox phones we have
    now have been pretty good and I like the features of the 8600 (don't
    need no stinking camera :). I know the speaker phone features of
    this phone are not up to par, but I'd probably use a headset anyway
    for handsfree.

    Thanks for any advice,

    Scott
     
  6. luverofpeanuts wrote:
    > I live in the midwest, (southern MN). I'm very interested in the
    > offerings from Verizon, but currently Midwest Wireless has the best
    > coverage for my particular area. I've determined that if having the
    > ability to make a call is the #1 thing for me, then I have to have a
    > phone with AMPS service. I appreciate the feedback on the strengths
    > of the Motorola T730 compared to the LG VX4400, since the LG has been at
    > the top of my list of phones to consider moving to. I would be
    > interested if others have noticed the T730 having strong support for
    > AMPs. The T730 is now on the radar for me at least. If there are other
    > tri-mode phones you think are worth considering, let me know.
    >


    Can the T720 be upgraded to a T730 through software/firmware? Or is
    the hardware actually different?
     
  7. Sensor Man

    Sensor Man Guest

    On 1 Mar 2004 10:29:46 -0800, gandersnatch wrote:

    > I just wish the LCD had more colors instead of just the 4K and it had
    > a built-in speakerphone. I would like something different so I want a
    > color flip, tri-mode, with external antenna port and a speaker phone.
    > I also cannot get a camera because I too have issues with cameras in
    > my workplace.


    I agree with the 4K color, but it is OK if you use GIF files (256 colors)
    for wallpaper.

    I bought the Moto SPN5027 speakerphone attachment for my T730 and it works
    better than any built-in speakerphone I have used.

    http://commerce.motorola.com/cgi-bi...&phoneID=&search_string=29,238320&type=249147

    You can get them for $25-40 on the web.
     
  8. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <slrn4c479u9.dvo.Jeff_Haferman@norge.freeshell.org>,
    Jeff Haferman <Jeff_Haferman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >Can the T720 be upgraded to a T730 through software/firmware? Or is
    >the hardware actually different?


    The T720 can be upgraded to exactly the same firmware that comes with
    the T730 (1.2.22.44.5P). In fact, I don't think external tools hooked
    up over the data cable can even distinguish them. There were some minor
    mechanical changes, such as how the display is wired to its circuit board,
    to deal with a "black screen of death" problem" experienced by *some*
    T720 users. Also, the faceplates are different. But I don't think that
    there are any functional differences, such as RF performance.

    If there are, I am sure someone will quickly correct me :)
     
  9. Alan M.

    Alan M. Guest

    They have? The 4400B is still on verizonwireless.com for me.

    "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
    news:YpJ0c.16125$aT1.14012@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    >
    > I suspect that the people that are happy with the VX4400 do not use it in
    > fringe signal areas, as I have. In any case, it's almost moot, as Verizon
    > has discontinued the VX4400, and replaced it with the less capable VX4500,
    > which should be avoided due to the lack of AMPS.
     
  10. Don R

    Don R Guest

    Is she using firmware v10. Made an improvement in my fringe reception.

    "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
    news:e9x0c.15699$aT1.2797@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    >
    > "Don R" <drennard@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:O2x0c.27535$W74.10492@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > > My VX4400 has better RF performance than my V60s and my wife's 7868. The
    > > VX4400 is the best overall phone phone Verizon has. Some phones may beat

    > it
    > > a one capability, but when you add it all up, best overall score goes to

    > the
    > > VX4400.

    >
    > My experiences are exactly the opposite. I was in Yosemite two weeks ago.

    My
    > sister-in-laws VX4400 had no coverage; I had adequate coverage with my
    > Motorola. This was on AMPS, and admittedly AMPS is a strong point for
    > Motorola and a weak point for LG and Samsung. Digitally, at her house we
    > both get signals but the Motorola has much better reception while she is
    > constantly dropping calls. She's in a fringe area, on a hill, so this is

    why
    > the signal isn't full strength, but the Motorola handset has no problem.
    > She's turning in the VX4400, but Verizon is really pushing it hard as it's

    a
    > very inexpensive phone for them, while the Motorolas are less profitable.
    > Funny thing is she had an LG VX510 prior to this one, and it was just as
    > bad, and she knew how much better Motorola worked at her house, but she

    got
    > another LG. Slow learner.
    >
    >
     
  11. Don R

    Don R Guest

    The 8600 has horrible reception. Worst I have ever seen.

    "Scott" <scotte@pobox.com> wrote in message
    news:50d0eda5.0403011231.fe6d376@posting.google.com...
    > "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message

    news:<e9x0c.15699$aT1.2797@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
    > > "Don R" <drennard@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
    > > news:O2x0c.27535$W74.10492@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > > > My VX4400 has better RF performance than my V60s and my wife's 7868.

    The
    > > > VX4400 is the best overall phone phone Verizon has. Some phones may

    beat
    > > it
    > > > a one capability, but when you add it all up, best overall score goes

    to
    > > the
    > > > VX4400.

    > >
    > > My experiences are exactly the opposite. I was in Yosemite two weeks

    ago. My
    > > sister-in-laws VX4400 had no coverage; I had adequate coverage with my
    > > Motorola. This was on AMPS, and admittedly AMPS is a strong point for
    > > Motorola and a weak point for LG and Samsung. Digitally, at her house we
    > > both get signals but the Motorola has much better reception while she is
    > > constantly dropping calls. She's in a fringe area, on a hill, so this is

    why
    > > the signal isn't full strength, but the Motorola handset has no problem.
    > > She's turning in the VX4400, but Verizon is really pushing it hard as

    it's a
    > > very inexpensive phone for them, while the Motorolas are less

    profitable.
    > > Funny thing is she had an LG VX510 prior to this one, and it was just as
    > > bad, and she knew how much better Motorola worked at her house, but she

    got
    > > another LG. Slow learner.

    >
    > Steven,
    >
    > Your situation sounds similar to mine. I will be doing a lot of
    > camping, traveling in the mountains, etc. where I need good coverage
    > and reception. What do you (or anyone else in this group) think of
    > the Audiovox 8600? I've not shopped for phones for about 3 yrs now so
    > have no idea what to look for or avoid. The Audiovox phones we have
    > now have been pretty good and I like the features of the 8600 (don't
    > need no stinking camera :). I know the speaker phone features of
    > this phone are not up to par, but I'd probably use a headset anyway
    > for handsfree.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice,
    >
    > Scott
     
  12. Don R

    Don R Guest

    I can't get past the squeaking noise the T730 makes everytime you touch
    something on it. And if you do not hit the buttons perfectly straight on,
    they don't take. The VX4400 is much more solid.

    "luverofpeanuts" <luverofpeanuts@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1045ksbg2tij5a9@corp.supernews.com...
    > Steven M. Scharf wrote:
    > > My experiences are exactly the opposite. I was in Yosemite two weeks

    ago. My
    > > sister-in-laws VX4400 had no coverage; I had adequate coverage with my
    > > Motorola. This was on AMPS, and admittedly AMPS is a strong point for
    > > Motorola and a weak point for LG and Samsung. Digitally, at her house we
    > > both get signals but the Motorola has much better reception while she is
    > > constantly dropping calls. She's in a fringe area, on a hill, so this is

    why
    > > the signal isn't full strength, but the Motorola handset has no problem.
    > > She's turning in the VX4400, but Verizon is really pushing it hard as

    it's a
    >
    >
    > I'm a lurker on this NG, but had to chime in here. I'm in the market
    > for a new phone (outside chance of a new carrier too). I had to chime
    > in on the importance of AMPs.
    >
    > I live in the midwest, (southern MN). I'm very interested in the
    > offerings from Verizon, but currently Midwest Wireless has the best
    > coverage for my particular area. I've determined that if having the
    > ability to make a call is the #1 thing for me, then I have to have a
    > phone with AMPS service. I appreciate the feedback on the strengths
    > of the Motorola T730 compared to the LG VX4400, since the LG has been at
    > the top of my list of phones to consider moving to. I would be
    > interested if others have noticed the T730 having strong support for
    > AMPs. The T730 is now on the radar for me at least. If there are other
    > tri-mode phones you think are worth considering, let me know.
    >
    > For my use, camera phones are a waste of money, and are more likely to a
    > be a liability, since many places I do business will not allow camera
    > phones.
    >
    > Now, if Verizon would just get some local coverage here.... ;-)
    >
    > ....luverofpeanuts
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
  13. "gandersnatch" <gandersnatch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:110c1243.0403011029.1db29227@posting.google.com...
    > I agree, having AMPS is important to have for fringe areas.


    > I too want to upgrade. I don't really see anything out I really want
    > except the T730c...


    The T730c is the best choice in a color, non-camera phone, IMVAIO. 4096
    colors is sufficient in a non-camera phone.

    > I just wish the LCD had more colors instead of just the 4K and it had
    > a built-in speakerphone. I would like something different so I want a
    > color flip, tri-mode, with external antenna port and a speaker phone.
    > I also cannot get a camera because I too have issues with cameras in
    > my workplace.


    Alas, there is no such phone. I really like having the speakerphone, have no
    interest in a camera, and prefer non-color because most of the color phones
    are hard to see in bright sunlight (not to mention the battery life issue).
    It's why I went to the V60s from the 270c, equally good RF performance, flip
    versus candy bar, which I prefer, and dual displays. Only downside is that
    the newer CDMA phones have poorer vocoders so the voice quality suffers
    slightly.
     
  14. "Kevin Weaver" <kkweaver@pacbell.net> wrote in message
    news:lsM0c.32211$qV5.30595@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
    > Thats sad. You the expert on phones. and your sister in law wont listen to
    > you on which to buy. :)


    It is sad.

    She listened, but after she experienced the VX4400 for herself, in a fringe
    reception area. Now she has to go through the hassle of an exchange,
    re-enter her phone book, and learn a new menu system. All could have been
    avoided had she listened to the Cell Academician.
     
  15. "Scott" <scotte@pobox.com> wrote in message
    news:50d0eda5.0403011231.fe6d376@posting.google.com...

    > Steven,
    >
    > Your situation sounds similar to mine. I will be doing a lot of
    > camping, traveling in the mountains, etc. where I need good coverage
    > and reception. What do you (or anyone else in this group) think of
    > the Audiovox 8600? I've not shopped for phones for about 3 yrs now so
    > have no idea what to look for or avoid. The Audiovox phones we have
    > now have been pretty good and I like the features of the 8600 (don't
    > need no stinking camera :). I know the speaker phone features of
    > this phone are not up to par, but I'd probably use a headset anyway
    > for handsfree.


    I don't have any experience with the Hyundai/Audiovox phones.

    Hyundai isn't known to make great phones. In Korea, most people use Samsung
    or LG phones. The 8000 series from Audiovox is very different than the
    Toshiba made 9000 series, which had an excellent reputation.

    It AMPS is important, I'd say to stick with Motorola or Nokia. If you can
    live without color, get a V60s, fast, before they're sold out in a day or
    so.

    We do a lot of hiking and visiting to places without digital coverage of any
    kind, so we look at AMPS quality as a key feature. Glad I had AMPS up in
    Alaska, that's for sure. That poor Nextel subscriber at the Anchorage
    airport looked so forlorn, as I advised him to go to Walmart to pick up a
    Tracfone!
     
  16. "Sensor Man" <sensorman@hoho.tz> wrote in message
    news:1rp7bcle4ib7u$.1t1ralb3hepb2.dlg@40tude.net...
    > On 1 Mar 2004 10:29:46 -0800, gandersnatch wrote:
    >
    > > I just wish the LCD had more colors instead of just the 4K and it had
    > > a built-in speakerphone. I would like something different so I want a
    > > color flip, tri-mode, with external antenna port and a speaker phone.
    > > I also cannot get a camera because I too have issues with cameras in
    > > my workplace.

    >
    > I agree with the 4K color, but it is OK if you use GIF files (256 colors)
    > for wallpaper.
    >
    > I bought the Moto SPN5027 speakerphone attachment for my T730 and it works
    > better than any built-in speakerphone I have used.
    >
    >

    http://commerce.motorola.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=24248
    9&prmenbr=126&accessories_cgrfnbr=22&zipcode=&phoneID=&search_string=29,2383
    20&type=249147
    >
    > You can get them for $25-40 on the web.


    It's a cool device, but not something you'd likely always carry around with
    you. Personally, I use my phone for making calls and an occasional text
    message, with no desire to do web browsing, so a color display doesn't
    excite me. The color display sucks power, and is difficult to see in bright
    light. I can hook up my color PDA to the phone if I don't have 802.11
    access. The speakerphone is something I use a lot, especially in noisy
    environments.
     
  17. Sam K

    Sam K Guest

    If you need analog, then I would consider the LG VX4400B or the
    Motorola T730. Three of my coworkers have the LG and they love it and
    the screen is much brighter than the T730. I had the T720 (the
    predecessor to the the T730) and it was good (not great) but my
    previous phone the LG TM510 had better reception. Another phone
    without a camera which has analog is the Audiovox CDM-8600 but I don't
    know how good it is.

    If you don't need analog, then I would consider the LG VX4500 or the
    Samsung SCH-A530. Two of my coworkers have the Samsung and the like
    that one too. If a speakerphone is something you'd like to have then
    you might want to try the VX4500.

    Now most of us have been commenting about flip/clamshell style phones.
    There are also a few candy bar style phones that could suit your
    needs. The Nokia 3589i and Kyocera KX414 are both candy bar phones
    with color screens and analog. The Motorola C343 is also a candy bar
    phone with a color screen but no analog. Somebody else will have to
    comment on these phones.
     
  18. "Sam K" <Sam.Khoury@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:db7771b.0403012047.5e5a1e02@posting.google.com...
    > If you need analog, then I would consider the LG VX4400B or the
    > Motorola T730. Three of my coworkers have the LG and they love it and
    > the screen is much brighter than the T730.


    Oh my. One of the complaints about the VX4400 is the screen brightness. If
    it's much brighter than the T730 then maybe the poster should stay away from
    color phones completely. Of course in dim light, all of these color screens
    are visible, but outside, they really suck.
     
  19. gandersnatch

    gandersnatch Guest

    From what I've read of this thread any phone out now has pros and cons
    and I think it comes down to personal prefs. As far as the T730 it
    sounds like it's an over-all good phone...

    At this point I want to upgrade as I said before and if I "had" to do
    it now I would probably pick the T730. However I always hold out for
    the next release in hopes that it's everything I want and has the
    "cool new" factor. I know something is on the verge as they're
    offering deep discounts and rebates to move existing stock.

    Does anyone know if Motorola (or anyone else) will have a new phone
    coming out for use on VZW? Bsically a replacement (or similar) to the
    T730, with all the current features it has *&* a speaker phone, no
    camera, more colors in LCD's, a bit smaller etc.?

    It seems that VZW is always a dollar short and day late with their
    phone line-up. After all, only one PTT phone out and how long has the
    service been available?

    Any scuttlebutt or thoughts on upcoming releases would be
    appreciated...

    Thanks,
    Gander
     
  20. Jesse McGrew

    Jesse McGrew Guest

    Steven M. Scharf wrote:

    > "Sam K" <Sam.Khoury@verizon.net> wrote in message
    > news:db7771b.0403012047.5e5a1e02@posting.google.com...
    >
    >>If you need analog, then I would consider the LG VX4400B or the
    >>Motorola T730. Three of my coworkers have the LG and they love it and
    >>the screen is much brighter than the T730.

    >
    > Oh my. One of the complaints about the VX4400 is the screen brightness. If
    > it's much brighter than the T730 then maybe the poster should stay away from
    > color phones completely. Of course in dim light, all of these color screens
    > are visible, but outside, they really suck.


    I don't find it very hard to use my 4400 outside. The trick is to tilt
    it away instead of looking at it straight on, so the sunlight
    illuminates the screen. It still looks washed out, but at least it's
    legible.

    Jesse
     

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