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Best verizon phone at this point?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by rpr, Feb 29, 2004.

  1. Musician

    Musician Guest

    X-No-archive: yes

    I personally have found my VX4400 to be nearly impossible to read in
    the sun. I would like a modern full featured phone with a mono screen!

    Other than that, the phone is pretty nice.

    Jesse McGrew <jmcgrew@hanshorseprestigepelican.com.remove.animals> wrote in message news:<40450448$0$4901$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com>...
    > Steven M. Scharf wrote:
    >
    > > "Sam K" <Sam.Khoury@verizon.net> wrote in message
    > > news:db7771b.0403012047.5e5a1e02@posting.google.com...
    > >
    > >>If you need analog, then I would consider the LG VX4400B or the
    > >>Motorola T730. Three of my coworkers have the LG and they love it and
    > >>the screen is much brighter than the T730.

    > >
    > > Oh my. One of the complaints about the VX4400 is the screen brightness. If
    > > it's much brighter than the T730 then maybe the poster should stay away from
    > > color phones completely. Of course in dim light, all of these color screens
    > > are visible, but outside, they really suck.

    >
    > I don't find it very hard to use my 4400 outside. The trick is to tilt
    > it away instead of looking at it straight on, so the sunlight
    > illuminates the screen. It still looks washed out, but at least it's
    > legible.
    >
    > Jesse
     



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  2. "Musician" <oldmusic2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:bddc95f2.0403050900.61a1d7c5@posting.google.com...
    > X-No-archive: yes
    >
    > I personally have found my VX4400 to be nearly impossible to read in
    > the sun. I would like a modern full featured phone with a mono screen!


    I think this is why the V60s became a cult phone so quickly. It's just a
    phone. Mono screen, good speakerphone, good reception, tri-mode.

    I have a nice digital camera, I don't need one in my phone. Well, now that I
    think of it, I could call my wife from the store, and send her photos of
    various vegetables and fruits to ensure that I am picking the good ones.
     
  3. ken moffat

    ken moffat Guest

    Steven M. Scharf wrote:

    >
    > I have a nice digital camera, I don't need one in my phone. Well, now that I
    > think of it, I could call my wife from the store, and send her photos of
    > various vegetables and fruits to ensure that I am picking the good ones.
    >
    >


    Ha :) Agreed. Might make those vegies and fruits a bit more expensive.

    I got my v60s 3 days ago, and so far it's a keeper. Lots of features,
    and with a one year extension I got it off the website for $69, and got
    the leather case and car charger for $20. I like the voice dialing, easy
    to set up, just say the name twice, and it works well. Built in date
    book, calculator. My drawback is no countdown timer or alarm, but the
    datebook can be made to work. They tell me I'll get used ot it. The big
    selling point is the clarity of sound and loud speakerphone. No color,
    no camera, not frilly, Just a good practical tri-mode flip phone.

    I bought it on the strength of comments on the group, and am not sorry.

    Verizon... Why discontinue such a useful phone?
     
  4. fish

    fish Guest

    ken moffat sez...

    > Verizon... Why discontinue such a useful phone?


    Let's see. If it's anything like that nightmare V60i, I can personally offer
    you a few solid reasons.

    For one, I don't enjoy hearing my own voice echo about a second after in the
    background. I recall being on a date in the city and she had to use my
    phone. Immediately, she complained about the echo. If you can tolerate the
    echo, you really have a talent for accepting anything anyone tries to sell
    you.

    For another, the volume issue. I recall too many times where I am in the
    midst of a conversation with a lady interest and suddenly I can't hear her!
    Then she has to yell several times, "it's your phone!".

    And if you don't feel that a camera on the phone holds merit, what would you
    do if you were involved with a hit-and-run or other crime and you had only a
    mere seconds to snap a pic of the license plate of the speeding racecar or
    some other event where you just don't have time to think.

    For insurance purposes, if you were involved in something serious and you
    could instantly snap a pic and send directly to the police, you could save a
    life, if not your own.

    Unless you actually carry a small digital camera everywhere you go, at all
    times, 7 days a week, then you simply offer excuses.

    P.S. I love my Samsung and the voice recognition worked perfectly on the
    first try without having to train it or pre-record.
    __________________
    =======fish=======
     
  5. ken moffat

    ken moffat Guest

    fish wrote:
    > ken moffat sez...
    >
    >
    >>Verizon... Why discontinue such a useful phone?

    >
    >
    > Let's see. If it's anything like that nightmare V60i, I can personally offer
    > you a few solid reasons.
    >
    >
    >
    > P.S. I love my Samsung and the voice recognition worked perfectly on the
    > first try without having to train it or pre-record.
    > __________________
    > =======fish=======
    >
    >


    I know you love your samsung, but I'm just a poor boy who wants nothing
    more than to talk. I have no echo. Those I talk to say it sounds great.
    So far no volume issue. It's small and for $70 with a 1 year extension,
    the price was right. Lots are paying $188 or more on ebay. Also, I go to
    military establishments where cameras are not permitted. I could play
    with a camera. It wuld be fun. But I'm a minimalist,

    BYW, How much does it cost to send a picture?
     
  6. "ken moffat" <kmoffat@drizzle.com> wrote in message
    news:1078631408.841859@yasure...

    > Ha :) Agreed. Might make those vegies and fruits a bit more expensive.
    >
    > I got my v60s 3 days ago, and so far it's a keeper. Lots of features,
    > and with a one year extension I got it off the website for $69, and got
    > the leather case and car charger for $20. I like the voice dialing, easy
    > to set up, just say the name twice, and it works well. Built in date
    > book, calculator. My drawback is no countdown timer or alarm, but the
    > datebook can be made to work. They tell me I'll get used ot it. The big
    > selling point is the clarity of sound and loud speakerphone. No color,
    > no camera, not frilly, Just a good practical tri-mode flip phone.
    >
    > I bought it on the strength of comments on the group, and am not sorry.
    >
    > Verizon... Why discontinue such a useful phone?


    I'm pretty sure that the V60s exists only because Verizon committed to buy a
    large quantity of V60p phones for their PTT service, which hasn't taken off.
    It was probably cheaper for them to re-flash them as a V60s than to get out
    of the purchase contract.

    Motorola phones are more expensive for them to buy than the phones from
    Samsung and LG, yet they can't charge more for them because only a handful
    of people understand the intricacies in selecting a handset, looking instead
    at stuff like cameras and MIDI ring tones. If you're looking at RF
    performance and voice quality then Motorola ranks high. But Motorola is late
    with camera phones, and other cute stuff.

    Other reasons:

    1. They are trying to reduce the number of phones they offer with AMPS. Not
    a lot of people understand the importance of AMPS.

    2. They don't like non-color, non-camera phones because the potential for
    extra revenue is lower.
     
  7. ken moffat

    ken moffat Guest

    Steven M. Scharf wrote:
    > "ken moffat" <kmoffat@drizzle.com> wrote in message
    > news:1078631408.841859@yasure...
    >
    >
    >>Ha :) Agreed. Might make those vegies and fruits a bit more expensive.
    >>
    >>I got my v60s 3 days ago, and so far it's a keeper. Lots of features,
    >>and with a one year extension I got it off the website for $69, and got
    >>the leather case and car charger for $20. I like the voice dialing, easy
    >>to set up, just say the name twice, and it works well. Built in date
    >>book, calculator. My drawback is no countdown timer or alarm, but the
    >>datebook can be made to work. They tell me I'll get used ot it. The big
    >>selling point is the clarity of sound and loud speakerphone. No color,
    >>no camera, not frilly, Just a good practical tri-mode flip phone.
    >>
    >>I bought it on the strength of comments on the group, and am not sorry.
    >>
    >>Verizon... Why discontinue such a useful phone?

    >
    >
    > I'm pretty sure that the V60s exists only because Verizon committed to buy a
    > large quantity of V60p phones for their PTT service, which hasn't taken off.
    > It was probably cheaper for them to re-flash them as a V60s than to get out
    > of the purchase contract.
    >
    > Motorola phones are more expensive for them to buy than the phones from
    > Samsung and LG, yet they can't charge more for them because only a handful
    > of people understand the intricacies in selecting a handset, looking instead
    > at stuff like cameras and MIDI ring tones. If you're looking at RF
    > performance and voice quality then Motorola ranks high. But Motorola is late
    > with camera phones, and other cute stuff.
    >
    > Other reasons:
    >
    > 1. They are trying to reduce the number of phones they offer with AMPS. Not
    > a lot of people understand the importance of AMPS.
    >
    > 2. They don't like non-color, non-camera phones because the potential for
    > extra revenue is lower.
    >
    >


    Sad truth.
     
  8. fish

    fish Guest

    ken moffat sez...

    > I go to military establishments where
    > cameras are not permitted.


    In that case, you could simply turn your camera phone off and let all
    incoming calls go to voicemail. But, the moment you leave the base, having
    that vaulable camera could be a potential life saver.

    > BYW, How much does it cost to send a picture?

    It costs 25ยข.
    __________________
    =======fish=======
     
  9. "ken moffat" <kmoffat@drizzle.com> wrote in message
    news:1078672264.482376@yasure...
    >
    > I know you love your samsung, but I'm just a poor boy who wants nothing
    > more than to talk. I have no echo. Those I talk to say it sounds great.
    > So far no volume issue. It's small and for $70 with a 1 year extension,
    > the price was right. Lots are paying $188 or more on ebay. Also, I go to
    > military establishments where cameras are not permitted.


    Not just military establishments forbid cameras. I visit customers, both
    here and overseas, where cameras are prohibited in their facilities. I've
    had to leave my digital camera at the security booth. The last thing I want
    is a camera on the phone, forcing me to leave my phone at security.
    Amusingly, some of these customers that I visit are manufacturers of camera
    phones (though not the divisions I've visited).

    People tire of the poor quality camera phones pretty quickly. Gotta love the
    rationalization of a camera on a phone being a life-saving device!
     
  10. Alan M.

    Alan M. Guest

    A couple of the biggest selling Motorola phones from Verizon Wireless over
    the past couple of years have been the 120 and the 720, correct? The voice
    quality and RF performance in both those phones have been horrendous.

    "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
    news:IfH2c.26249$aT1.18590@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > "ken moffat" <kmoffat@drizzle.com> wrote in message
    > news:1078631408.841859@yasure...
    >
    > at stuff like cameras and MIDI ring tones. If you're looking at RF
    > performance and voice quality then Motorola ranks high. But Motorola is

    late
    > with camera phones, and other cute stuff.
    >
     
  11. Eric

    Eric Guest

    I bought a V60s a few days ago, and I'm not as impressed with the phone as
    some others seem to be. While some people talk about the the phone having
    great build quality, I think it's average. For example, when you press a
    key, the plastic around the keypad is so thin that the entire keypad flexes.
    The flip wobbles a bit when closed but seems stable when open. I've had a
    7868W and a T720 before, and the 7868 was pretty sturdy. The T720 creaked
    like crazy. Very thin plastic and too many joints. On the other hand, I
    was happy with the T720's performance. I know that it was panned in the
    newsgroups almost from the beginning, but mine had decent voice quality,
    good reception and acceptable battery life with the extended battery.

    Here are some quick additional comments on my V60s:

    The keypad is fairly unresponsive under certain circumstances, like when the
    speakerphone is on. There can be a very noticeable delay between a key
    press and the transmission of a DTMF tone.

    Battery life with the slim battery is not great, but I'll reserve judgment
    until I go through a few charge/recharge cycles. I may buy an extended
    battery, but I'm not sure how much it increases the size and weight of the
    phone.

    Reception is about the same as my T720. It's nice to not have to extend the
    antenna on the V60s.

    Screen is very readable indoors without the backlight on -- unlike the color
    screen on the T720.

    There is an electronic click just before most of the ringtones play. Not a
    big deal, but the T720 didn't do this.

    The speakerphone is very good. Plenty of volume and I've been told that
    sound quality is good on the other party's end. This is a great feature to
    have on a cell phone.

    While I blamed the T720 for switching too easily to analog at my home, the
    V60s seems to do the same. I do get a good signal, so it may be a network
    thing.

    It seems that I can use the same car charger and travel charger that I used
    with the T720.

    I don't miss a color display. I had hoped that the monochrome display of
    the V60s would give it better battery life, but I'll have to wait and see.

    The T720 was easier to operate with one hand. The narrower shape of the
    V60s requires some advanced thumb yoga.

    Eric
     
  12. ken moffat

    ken moffat Guest

    Eric wrote:

    >
    > The T720 was easier to operate with one hand. The narrower shape of the
    > V60s requires some advanced thumb yoga.
    >
    > Eric
    >
    >
    >


    Pretty good review. I got the leather case from the website, which adds
    to the bulk of the phone, but make opening the flip a one hand affair.
     
  13. Proconsul

    Proconsul Guest

    I don't know where you use your phones, but my T720 performs exceptionally
    well - voice quality, RF performance, battery life, the whole
    "enchilada".....and I've used mine in more than forty states all over the
    country.....

    Other posters are correct - Motorola makes great phones, but doesn't muck
    about with chintzy junk features.....like fancy "tones", cameras and other
    silly stuff....!

    PC

    "Alan M." <letsgohokies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:A9ednVApNKNd-9bd4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
    | A couple of the biggest selling Motorola phones from Verizon Wireless over
    | the past couple of years have been the 120 and the 720, correct? The
    voice
    | quality and RF performance in both those phones have been horrendous.
    |
    | "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
    | news:IfH2c.26249$aT1.18590@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    | > "ken moffat" <kmoffat@drizzle.com> wrote in message
    | > news:1078631408.841859@yasure...
    | >
    | > at stuff like cameras and MIDI ring tones. If you're looking at RF
    | > performance and voice quality then Motorola ranks high. But Motorola is
    | late
    | > with camera phones, and other cute stuff.
    | >
    |
    |
     
  14. "Eric" <eric@nospam.net> wrote in message
    news:BxK2c.35191$_M7.23898@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
    > I bought a V60s a few days ago, and I'm not as impressed with the phone as
    > some others seem to be.


    Good points.

    I'm not as impressed with it as the 270C that it replaced. But compared to
    the other offerings from Verizon at this time, I'm impressed. If you want
    AMPS, and a speakerphone, you don't have much choice.

    > While some people talk about the the phone having
    > great build quality, I think it's average. For example, when you press a
    > key, the plastic around the keypad is so thin that the entire keypad

    flexes.

    This is true. But if you take the phone apart, you'll see that the plastic
    around the keypad doesn't really serve a structural need, it just covers the
    keypad.

    > Here are some quick additional comments on my V60s:


    >
    > The keypad is fairly unresponsive under certain circumstances, like when

    the
    > speakerphone is on. There can be a very noticeable delay between a key
    > press and the transmission of a DTMF tone.
    >
    > Battery life with the slim battery is not great, but I'll reserve judgment
    > until I go through a few charge/recharge cycles. I may buy an extended
    > battery, but I'm not sure how much it increases the size and weight of the
    > phone.


    Definitely not as good as the 270C which had a larger battery. But probably
    better than color phones.

    > Reception is about the same as my T720. It's nice to not have to extend

    the
    > antenna on the V60s.


    I think the reception is slightly lower than the 270C. May be because of the
    antenna. And lower reception would mean more power consumption.

    > Screen is very readable indoors without the backlight on -- unlike the

    color
    > screen on the T720.


    This was a major consideration for me. I use my phone indoors and out. I
    have no need for a color display on a non-PDA phone.

    > There is an electronic click just before most of the ringtones play. Not

    a
    > big deal, but the T720 didn't do this.


    I noticed this when selecting ring tones. What's the deal with this? I don't
    notice it when the phone rings since I'm not listening for it.

    > The speakerphone is very good. Plenty of volume and I've been told that
    > sound quality is good on the other party's end. This is a great feature

    to
    > have on a cell phone.


    I agree. I will not buy a phone without a speakerphone. I got spoiled by the
    270C. In noisy areas it's great.

    > While I blamed the T720 for switching too easily to analog at my home, the
    > V60s seems to do the same. I do get a good signal, so it may be a network
    > thing.


    I haven't had my V60s go to analog yet. I'm in an area with very good
    Verizon digital coverage. But I use analog probably every two weeks or so
    when traveling.

    > It seems that I can use the same car charger and travel charger that I

    used
    > with the T720.


    Yeah, that great (sarcasm) Motorola charger connector!

    > I don't miss a color display. I had hoped that the monochrome display of
    > the V60s would give it better battery life, but I'll have to wait and see.
    >
    > The T720 was easier to operate with one hand. The narrower shape of the
    > V60s requires some advanced thumb yoga.


    With the leather case, the V60s is easy to open with one hand. All the V60
    models had the issue of being a pain to open without the a case on them.

    Yesterday, I swapped the 270C hang-up cup in my car for the V60s hang-up cup
    on the Motorola Professional Hands Free Car Kit (MPHFCK). I really like the
    MPHFCK.
     
  15. fish

    fish Guest

    Holy cow, Eric sez...

    > I bought a V60s a few days ago


    My god, Eric!

    I had to put up with voice echo and volume drop on my V60i. The mighty
    Samsung SCH-a610 came to the rescue with way better battery performance.
    Last charge was 2/27 and today on 3/7 (over one week), the battery is
    showing 2 bars (extended battery).

    > I'm not as impressed with the
    > phone as some others seem to be.


    Me either!

    > ...when you press a key, the plastic
    > around the keypad is so thin that the
    > entire keypad flexes.


    Not on my solidly built Samsung.

    > The flip wobbles a bit when closed
    > but seems stable when open.


    My Samsung has a swivel top, yet it doesn't seem to have that wobble feel. I
    know exactly what you mean because when I first got my Samsung, I would hold
    both of my phones in each hand to "feel" the difference.

    > I've had a 7868W...


    Me too. That was a good built phone. I liked the easy way you can replace
    the battery. The V60i makes changing the battery a major job, like taking
    your car in for service to get an oil change.

    > Battery life with the slim battery is not great


    You know what? My color camera flip phone really has exceptional battery
    performance. It went down only one bar in over a week, and that's with the
    use of the camera to snap pics, the "Get It Now", a few calls, voicemail,
    heck even the calendar works right.

    > I may buy an extended battery, but I'm not sure
    > how much it increases the size and weight of the
    > phone.


    I got the extended battery for my Samsung and it does make the phone larger,
    but it's all good for the exceptional battery performance I've been
    enjoying.

    > Screen is very readable indoors without the
    > backlight on -- unlike the color screen on the T720.


    I've not had difficulties outdoors with my camera phone, except when the sun
    is shining brightly in the view.

    > The narrower shape of the V60s requires
    > some advanced thumb yoga.


    Yeh, I remember those days with the V60i. I love the sure grip I get with
    the a-610 and will never look back.
    __________________
    =======fish=======
     

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