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Can ANY new/old digital Verizon phone be used for Prepay?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by mugatootoo, Oct 23, 2003.

  1. mugatootoo

    mugatootoo Guest

    Because I'm thinking of just picking a Verizon phone up from Ebay and just adding prepay. Possible?

    Thanks in advance.
     



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  2. Steve Crow

    Steve Crow Guest

    VZW is supposed to only be activating tri-mode handsets. If it's an older
    dual-mode, it probably won't fly. And if it's an analog, forget it (or
    send it to Larry, he'll make it work).


    On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, mugatootoo wrote:

    > Because I'm thinking of just picking a Verizon phone up from Ebay and just adding prepay. Possible?
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >



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  3. Steve Crow <scrow@stevecrow.net> wrote:
    > VZW is supposed to only be activating tri-mode handsets.


    Then why are they selling digital-only handsets, and I mean the company
    stores?

    The funny thing is that less than two years ago they were making a big
    deal about going to 100% tri-mode...

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  4. Steve Crow

    Steve Crow Guest

    Interesting observation. I had actually wondered the same thing. I believe
    their emphasis in requiring tri-mode was to add the PCS bands to the
    handsets. Useless, since, at least around here, all their roaming
    agreements are in the 800 cellular band, NOT 190 PCS.

    Remember that the big tri-mode push came about the time America's Choice
    launched, and Sprint PCS was a significant roaming partner back in those
    days, circa PRL 50017 (which, by the way, is still on my old Motorola
    v.120c).

    Steve

    On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Steven J Sobol wrote:

    > Steve Crow <scrow@stevecrow.net> wrote:
    > > VZW is supposed to only be activating tri-mode handsets.

    >
    > Then why are they selling digital-only handsets, and I mean the company
    > stores?
    >
    > The funny thing is that less than two years ago they were making a big
    > deal about going to 100% tri-mode...
    >
    > --
    > JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
    > 22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    > Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    > 888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * sjsobol@JustThe.net
    >



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  5. David L

    David L Guest

    Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message news:<EZ-dnSbeu-GMEwWiRVn-gw@lmi.net>...
    > Steve Crow <scrow@stevecrow.net> wrote:
    > > VZW is supposed to only be activating tri-mode handsets.

    >
    > Then why are they selling digital-only handsets, and I mean the company
    > stores?
    >
    > The funny thing is that less than two years ago they were making a big
    > deal about going to 100% tri-mode...


    Interesting... Verizon has had time to turn on digital and then create
    two tiers of service.
    One, a Sprint like digital home network and the other, a universal
    roaming network with lots of analog partners.

    Handsets are falling into the two tier programn as well.

    Tiering is a briallaint idea, where unrestricted roamers are paying
    their own way much more so than when Verizon first started out.
    Verizon can also compete on price in a more restricted PRL version.
    Verizon seems adept at reversing courses, whenever it serves them.

    How about this idea?
    If the goal had always been an eventual and easy absorbtion of SPCS,
    (or at east the use of SPCS spectrum) then all those 1900mhz capable
    handsets out there make perfect sense, even if a merger is far off.

    -
    David
     
  6. _KC_

    _KC_ Guest

    "mugatootoo" <mugatootoo@yahtooh.com> wrote in message
    news:pq_lb.16939$Uz6.6777@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > Because I'm thinking of just picking a Verizon phone up from Ebay and just

    adding prepay. Possible?
    >
    > Thanks in advance.



    Yes, as long as its digital you can use it on Prepay. I activate dual mode
    phones for prepay all the time here. If you travel into any of the PCS
    markets like FL, you would want to have a tri-mode phone.



    KC
     
  7. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <e1705cb3.0310240306.23538407@posting.google.com>,
    David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
    >news:<EZ-dnSbeu-GMEwWiRVn-gw@lmi.net>...
    >> Steve Crow <scrow@stevecrow.net> wrote:
    >> > VZW is supposed to only be activating tri-mode handsets.

    >>
    >> Then why are they selling digital-only handsets, and I mean the company
    >> stores?
    >>
    >> The funny thing is that less than two years ago they were making a big
    >> deal about going to 100% tri-mode...

    >
    >Interesting... Verizon has had time to turn on digital and then create
    >two tiers of service.
    >One, a Sprint like digital home network and the other, a universal
    >roaming network with lots of analog partners.
    >
    >Handsets are falling into the two tier programn as well.
    >
    >Tiering is a briallaint idea, where unrestricted roamers are paying
    >their own way much more so than when Verizon first started out.
    >Verizon can also compete on price in a more restricted PRL version.
    >Verizon seems adept at reversing courses, whenever it serves them.


    So why don't they give discounts on service to people who are digital
    only? Digital-only means that VZW will not be getting bills from
    those AMPS-only mom-and-pops, even those they chose to include in the
    general America's Choice network. VZW may be entirely digital on their
    own network, but they cannot force other carriers to install CDMA.
     
  8. About Dakota

    About Dakota Guest

    CharlesH wrote:
    > In article <e1705cb3.0310240306.23538407@posting.google.com>,
    > David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    >
    >>Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
    >>news:<EZ-dnSbeu-GMEwWiRVn-gw@lmi.net>...
    >>
    >>>Steve Crow <scrow@stevecrow.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>VZW is supposed to only be activating tri-mode handsets.
    >>>
    >>>Then why are they selling digital-only handsets, and I mean the company
    >>>stores?
    >>>
    >>>The funny thing is that less than two years ago they were making a big
    >>>deal about going to 100% tri-mode...

    >>
    >>Interesting... Verizon has had time to turn on digital and then create
    >>two tiers of service.
    >>One, a Sprint like digital home network and the other, a universal
    >>roaming network with lots of analog partners.
    >>
    >>Handsets are falling into the two tier programn as well.
    >>
    >>Tiering is a briallaint idea, where unrestricted roamers are paying
    >>their own way much more so than when Verizon first started out.
    >>Verizon can also compete on price in a more restricted PRL version.
    >>Verizon seems adept at reversing courses, whenever it serves them.

    >
    >
    > So why don't they give discounts on service to people who are digital
    > only? Digital-only means that VZW will not be getting bills from
    > those AMPS-only mom-and-pops, even those they chose to include in the
    > general America's Choice network. VZW may be entirely digital on their
    > own network, but they cannot force other carriers to install CDMA.
    >


    I wonder if in the future we will see CDMA/GSM phones? A lot of
    Verizon's analog roaming is on carriers that are switching to GSM, so
    that means that in 2008 (if AMPS does get to be shut off then) that AC
    will have lost quite a bit of coverage. Take a look at Michigan,
    Minnesota, or Maine, for example on the America's Choice calling map.

    There are already phones out that run GSM 850/1900, TDMA 800/1900, and
    AMPS 800. They get coverage almost everywhere.

    AD
     
  9. Bill

    Bill Guest

    By 2008 they'll all be switching to WCDMA
    "About Dakota" <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3F9C8F69.8010701@REMOVEMEhotmail.com...
    >
    >
    > CharlesH wrote:
    > > In article <e1705cb3.0310240306.23538407@posting.google.com>,
    > > David L <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >>Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
    > >>news:<EZ-dnSbeu-GMEwWiRVn-gw@lmi.net>...
    > >>
    > >>>Steve Crow <scrow@stevecrow.net> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>>VZW is supposed to only be activating tri-mode handsets.
    > >>>
    > >>>Then why are they selling digital-only handsets, and I mean the company
    > >>>stores?
    > >>>
    > >>>The funny thing is that less than two years ago they were making a big
    > >>>deal about going to 100% tri-mode...
    > >>
    > >>Interesting... Verizon has had time to turn on digital and then create
    > >>two tiers of service.
    > >>One, a Sprint like digital home network and the other, a universal
    > >>roaming network with lots of analog partners.
    > >>
    > >>Handsets are falling into the two tier programn as well.
    > >>
    > >>Tiering is a briallaint idea, where unrestricted roamers are paying
    > >>their own way much more so than when Verizon first started out.
    > >>Verizon can also compete on price in a more restricted PRL version.
    > >>Verizon seems adept at reversing courses, whenever it serves them.

    > >
    > >
    > > So why don't they give discounts on service to people who are digital
    > > only? Digital-only means that VZW will not be getting bills from
    > > those AMPS-only mom-and-pops, even those they chose to include in the
    > > general America's Choice network. VZW may be entirely digital on their
    > > own network, but they cannot force other carriers to install CDMA.
    > >

    >
    > I wonder if in the future we will see CDMA/GSM phones? A lot of
    > Verizon's analog roaming is on carriers that are switching to GSM, so
    > that means that in 2008 (if AMPS does get to be shut off then) that AC
    > will have lost quite a bit of coverage. Take a look at Michigan,
    > Minnesota, or Maine, for example on the America's Choice calling map.
    >
    > There are already phones out that run GSM 850/1900, TDMA 800/1900, and
    > AMPS 800. They get coverage almost everywhere.
    >
    > AD
    >
     
  10. Dr. WireMORE

    Dr. WireMORE Guest

    Today: you can put an analog phone, dual more or tri-mode on a pre-pay line.
    As of January 1, 2004, Verizon will only accept tri-mode for new pre-pay
    activations. That begs the question, if you activate a tri-mode on pre-pay,
    and it breaks, can you then put an analog/dual-mode on it? No one had an
    answer for that.

    One would guess that eventually only digital phones on everything. But for
    sure: right now you an activate analog, dual band, or tri-mode on pre-pay;
    but that will change January 1, 2003. Hope that helps. (My source is VZW
    corporate, Midwest, Indirect Relations)

    Dr. W More
    Wireless Consulting and Midwest Master Agent

    "_KC_" <kc@kc.com> wrote in message
    news:Aaamb.235$FI2.122@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    >
    > "mugatootoo" <mugatootoo@yahtooh.com> wrote in message
    > news:pq_lb.16939$Uz6.6777@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > > Because I'm thinking of just picking a Verizon phone up from Ebay and

    just
    > adding prepay. Possible?
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance.

    >
    >
    > Yes, as long as its digital you can use it on Prepay. I activate dual

    mode
    > phones for prepay all the time here. If you travel into any of the PCS
    > markets like FL, you would want to have a tri-mode phone.
    >
    >
    >
    > KC
    >
    >
    >
     

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