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CAn I activate Verizon on a Spint PCS phone?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by chang lee, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. David D

    David D Guest

    Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in article
    <pbh4ovsvce269m6spjti910hk887rnaqjl@Pern.rk>:
    > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:47:39 -0000, sweetpea123@yahoo.com (m rae)
    > posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    > >and by the way, why do you think people like you go on this website?

    >
    > This is a web site? The last time I looked it was a news group.
    >
    > > TO ASK STUPID QUESTIONS AND HAVE PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
    > >ABOUT ANSWER THEM MORON!!!

    >
    > And to have you answer them (incorrectly) too.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >



    "web page

    <World-Wide Web> A block of data available on the World-Wide
    Web, identified by a URL. In the simplest, most common
    case, a web page is a file written in HTML, stored on the
    server. It may refer to images which appear as part of
    the page when it is displayed by a web browser. It is also
    possible for the server to generate pages dynamically in
    response to a request, e.g. using a CGI script.

    A web page can be in any format that the browser or a helper
    application can display. The format is transmitted as part
    of the headers of the response as a MIME type,
    e.g. "text/html", "image/gif".

    An HTML web page will typically refer to other web pages and
    Internet resources by including hypertext links.

    A web site often has a home page (usually just the
    hostname, e.g. http://www.foldoc.org/). It may also have
    individual home pages for each user with an account at the
    site.
    "

    http://dict.die.net/web page/

    Hmmm...looks like this is a website/webpage seeing as i have access to
    it through a web browser. It includes text, hyperlinks, its got a URL,
    and CGI Script (At least by the listed definition anyway) used in our
    responses to each other.


    "Definition for: newsgroup

    A discussion group on the Internet which is focused on a particular
    topic.Discussion takes place by posting messages for everyone to read,
    having online conversations, and sending email messages to individuals
    or the group.There are thousands of newsgroups on different subjects."

    Cited from:
    http://www.computeruser.com/resources/dictionary/definition.html?lookup=3363

    Looks like this is a website.


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    I DON'T speak for them.


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



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  2. Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:

    > And it doesn't take a genius to know that, if you can get the MSL
    > code, you can activate any Sprint, Altell, etc., tri-mode phone on
    > Verizon.


    Alltel doesn't lock their phones, so you don't even need the MSL from them.

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  3. David D

    David D Guest

    Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in article
    <U-udnYECu9t50h-iU-KYvw@lmi.net>:
    > Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:
    >
    > > And it doesn't take a genius to know that, if you can get the MSL
    > > code, you can activate any Sprint, Altell, etc., tri-mode phone on
    > > Verizon.

    >
    > Alltel doesn't lock their phones, so you don't even need the MSL from them.
    >
    > --



    I don't think US Cellular does either, i activated a girl who had a
    v120c from US Cellular in Washington State.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  4. On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:05:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:

    >On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:01:27 -0000, sweetpea123@yahoo.com (m rae)
    >posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    >>Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in article
    >><3djunvk9oe5r9850g3uab03dbq252cei66@Pern.rk>:
    >>> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:06:56 -0500, About Dakota
    >>> <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >
    >>> >Verizon Wireless will not activate a phone that is not sold by them.

    >
    >>> I don't know who told you that, but I've used "foreign" phones on my
    >>> Verizon account - a Sprint 6035 among them. (How I got the MSL is
    >>> another story.) And it was Verizon, not a "subsidiary", that
    >>> activated them.

    >
    >>Should not be possible. Vzw operates on another nertwork technology
    >>different than other carriers.

    >
    >Again, I don't know who's feeding you your incorrect information.
    >Both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA. In fact, over the years, some of
    >the phones they've offered have been the same phone.
    >
    >>Unless you do get a reseller to remove the tech and reprogram the new tech

    >
    >You can't "program" a TDMA phone to talk CDMA. You have to replace
    >the phone. But, since both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, that's not a
    >problem. Only getting the MSL used to be.


    Used to be?

    Is there some way other than buying a cable and software?

    I had wanted to try activating my old Sprint Samsung SPH A400 a while
    back, but didn't think it was worth getting the software and cable, etc. I
    wasn't willing to delay gratification until I received the package, I
    guess.


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  5. A newsgroup does not provide "online conversations". In other
    words, a news group is not a chat room. A news group is not a web site.
    I do not have to launch my web browser to read news groups, just my
    news reader. If fact, news groups can not be read from the browser.
    The news reader has to be launched. It access my internet providers
    news server, not a web site.


    David D wrote:

    > Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in article
    > <pbh4ovsvce269m6spjti910hk887rnaqjl@Pern.rk>:
    >
    >>On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:47:39 -0000, sweetpea123@yahoo.com (m rae)
    >>posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >>
    >>
    >>>and by the way, why do you think people like you go on this website?

    >>
    >>This is a web site? The last time I looked it was a news group.
    >>
    >>
    >>>TO ASK STUPID QUESTIONS AND HAVE PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
    >>>ABOUT ANSWER THEM MORON!!!

    >>
    >>And to have you answer them (incorrectly) too.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    > "web page
    >
    > <World-Wide Web> A block of data available on the World-Wide
    > Web, identified by a URL. In the simplest, most common
    > case, a web page is a file written in HTML, stored on the
    > server. It may refer to images which appear as part of
    > the page when it is displayed by a web browser. It is also
    > possible for the server to generate pages dynamically in
    > response to a request, e.g. using a CGI script.
    >
    > A web page can be in any format that the browser or a helper
    > application can display. The format is transmitted as part
    > of the headers of the response as a MIME type,
    > e.g. "text/html", "image/gif".
    >
    > An HTML web page will typically refer to other web pages and
    > Internet resources by including hypertext links.
    >
    > A web site often has a home page (usually just the
    > hostname, e.g. http://www.foldoc.org/). It may also have
    > individual home pages for each user with an account at the
    > site.
    > "
    >
    > http://dict.die.net/web page/
    >
    > Hmmm...looks like this is a website/webpage seeing as i have access to
    > it through a web browser. It includes text, hyperlinks, its got a URL,
    > and CGI Script (At least by the listed definition anyway) used in our
    > responses to each other.
    >
    >
    > "Definition for: newsgroup
    >
    > A discussion group on the Internet which is focused on a particular
    > topic.Discussion takes place by posting messages for everyone to read,
    > having online conversations, and sending email messages to individuals
    > or the group.There are thousands of newsgroups on different subjects."
    >
    > Cited from:
    > http://www.computeruser.com/resources/dictionary/definition.html?lookup=3363
    >
    > Looks like this is a website.
    >
    >
  6. Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
    > A newsgroup does not provide "online conversations".


    Sure it does; just not REALTIME online conversations.

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  7. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <vKKcnfZDQOeNWR-iXTWJhg@lmi.net>,
    Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
    >Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
    >> A newsgroup does not provide "online conversations".

    >
    >Sure it does; just not REALTIME online conversations.


    Some WEB sites provide Newsgroup access (e.g., Google).

    But Usenet is older than the Internet, let alone World Wide Web.
    Originally, Usenet servers communicated with each other by dialing
    other servers and copying files over a modem with file transfer
    protocols like UUCP (Unix-Unix-CP). Now they use the NNTP protocol
    over the Internet for transport. Still nothing to do with WEB (HTTP).

    And a lot of people don't realize that Usenet groups are totally
    distributed and do not have a home server; messages just propagate
    from one server to another, depending one what "neighbors" have been
    configured for the servers. Very different from message boards hosted
    on some machine like Yahoo or AOL.
  8. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:06:27 GMT, Kevin McClave
    <KPMcClaveHATESPAM@prodigy.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:05:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:


    >>You can't "program" a TDMA phone to talk CDMA. You have to replace
    >>the phone. But, since both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, that's not a
    >>problem. Only getting the MSL used to be.


    >Used to be?


    >Is there some way other than buying a cable and software?


    >I had wanted to try activating my old Sprint Samsung SPH A400 a while
    >back, but didn't think it was worth getting the software and cable, etc. I
    >wasn't willing to delay gratification until I received the package, I
    >guess.


    Go to the Sprint site. There's a page to program the phone. There
    should be a link to an alternate page. Or something like that. I've
    never used their site to grab a MSL code, but the "alternate" code is
    the MSL.

    (There are two codes in the phone, the MSL and a one-shot code, used
    to initially program the phone when you buy it. I've seen, from
    several posters, that the site has provisions for your messing up and
    needing to get into the phone to program it again. That requires the
    MSL. One used to have to buy the phone, call CS and try to program
    it, "mess up", and have CS give you "another number to try" to program
    it again. Or know someone high up in SPCS.)
  9. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:32:20 -0500, Steven J Sobol
    <sjsobol@JustThe.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:


    >> And it doesn't take a genius to know that, if you can get the MSL
    >> code, you can activate any Sprint, Altell, etc., tri-mode phone on
    >> Verizon.


    >Alltel doesn't lock their phones, so you don't even need the MSL from them.


    Never had one. Thanks for the education.
  10. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:43:35 GMT, Jerome Zelinske
    <jeromez1@earthlink.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    > A newsgroup does not provide "online conversations". In other
    >words, a news group is not a chat room. A news group is not a web site.
    > I do not have to launch my web browser to read news groups, just my
    >news reader. If fact, news groups can not be read from the browser.
    >The news reader has to be launched. It access my internet providers
    >news server, not a web site.


    Technically, you have to use an NNTP client, not an HTTP client, which
    is pretty much what you said.

    For some, "NNTP client" means a web browser. Then, again, for some,
    "news group" means a web page on a WebTV server. "I do it" (said by
    Dave the Wonder Rep") and "this is what it is" aren't necessarily the
    same thing. Or even on the same plane of reality.

    Hint for the internet-impaired:

    The fact that you can use an HTTP client to access google.com to read
    news posts doesn't make an NNTP server a web page.
  11. On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:15:28 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:

    >On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:06:27 GMT, Kevin McClave
    ><KPMcClaveHATESPAM@prodigy.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    >>On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:05:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:

    >
    >>>You can't "program" a TDMA phone to talk CDMA. You have to replace
    >>>the phone. But, since both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, that's not a
    >>>problem. Only getting the MSL used to be.

    >
    >>Used to be?

    >
    >>Is there some way other than buying a cable and software?

    >
    >>I had wanted to try activating my old Sprint Samsung SPH A400 a while
    >>back, but didn't think it was worth getting the software and cable, etc. I
    >>wasn't willing to delay gratification until I received the package, I
    >>guess.

    >
    >Go to the Sprint site. There's a page to program the phone. There
    >should be a link to an alternate page. Or something like that. I've
    >never used their site to grab a MSL code, but the "alternate" code is
    >the MSL.
    >
    >(There are two codes in the phone, the MSL and a one-shot code, used
    >to initially program the phone when you buy it. I've seen, from
    >several posters, that the site has provisions for your messing up and
    >needing to get into the phone to program it again. That requires the
    >MSL. One used to have to buy the phone, call CS and try to program
    >it, "mess up", and have CS give you "another number to try" to program
    >it again. Or know someone high up in SPCS.)


    Thanks, Al. I think in order to do this you have to have an active Sprint
    phone number. I don't want to re-activate my account just to get the code,
    if that is required (and I had already gone to their site previously and
    tried to see what I could see on the online activation page...just tried
    again). Unless there would be a way to re-activate and then de-activate
    the account (and phone) online quickly and easily. I'm on Verizon full
    time these days.


    ***********************************************************
    Kevin McClave
    http://www.kpmcclave.com/splash.html

    "To justify himself, each relies on
    the other's crime." ~Albert Camus
    ***********************************************************
  12. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 04:18:11 -0000, ohwell@hotmail.com (David D)
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Not always, but I'm interested to give some unlocked equipment a shot.


    Go to www.verizonwireless.com. Log into your account. (Sign up for
    it if you haven't.) Go to Mobile Phone. Go to Activate Phone. You
    can change the ESN for that MIN there.

    Turn the phone on. Dial *228. (Or *22800, *22801, etc., till you get
    Verizon's over the air programming.) Dial 1. The phone will be set
    up for that account. (The MSL has to be all zeros, nut just some
    number that you know. If there's a field programming lock code, that
    also has to be 6 zeros.)
  13. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:42:21 GMT, Kevin McClave
    <KPMcClaveHATESPAM@prodigy.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Thanks, Al. I think in order to do this you have to have an active Sprint
    >phone number. I don't want to re-activate my account just to get the code,
    >if that is required (and I had already gone to their site previously and
    >tried to see what I could see on the online activation page...just tried
    >again). Unless there would be a way to re-activate and then de-activate
    >the account (and phone) online quickly and easily. I'm on Verizon full
    >time these days.


    I guess you could try activating the account up to the point you got
    the MSL, then pretending that it was just too difficult. It might
    work, and it might not.
  14. On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 00:06:38 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:

    >On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:42:21 GMT, Kevin McClave
    ><KPMcClaveHATESPAM@prodigy.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    >>Thanks, Al. I think in order to do this you have to have an active Sprint
    >>phone number. I don't want to re-activate my account just to get the code,
    >>if that is required (and I had already gone to their site previously and
    >>tried to see what I could see on the online activation page...just tried
    >>again). Unless there would be a way to re-activate and then de-activate
    >>the account (and phone) online quickly and easily. I'm on Verizon full
    >>time these days.

    >
    >I guess you could try activating the account up to the point you got
    >the MSL, then pretending that it was just too difficult. It might
    >work, and it might not.


    I'd give it a shot, but I don't think you can activate a phone unless you
    already have an active account. I used my old phone number, which it asks
    for to activate the phone, and it didn't work (said it was invalid or
    something like that), which of course wasn't a surprise.

    Thanks for your help, though, Al.


    ***********************************************************
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    http://www.kpmcclave.com/splash.html

    "To justify himself, each relies on
    the other's crime." ~Albert Camus
    ***********************************************************

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