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cell phone use in hospitals

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by maryann, Nov 18, 2003.

  1. maryann

    maryann Guest

    There was a thread here a few months ago about cell phone use in
    hospitals, with plenty of self righteous talk about the "dangers"
    to the patients.

    I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.
     



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  2. maryann wrote:
    >
    > There was a thread here a few months ago about cell phone use in
    > hospitals, with plenty of self righteous talk about the "dangers"
    > to the patients.
    >
    > I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    > of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    > be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.


    More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    than a cell phone.

    Larry
     
  3. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:3FBAFB49.3206E1B6@spamcop.net...
    >
    > More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    > than a cell phone.



    the Nextel's would screw up the test sets when I worked at Lucent, the
    interference would cause boards to fail the test when infact they were good,
    and in the more extreme case, would cause the calibration to get messed up
    on the test set...

    geoff
     
  4. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:3FBAFB49.3206E1B6@spamcop.net...
    >
    > More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    > than a cell phone.



    the Nextel's would screw up the test sets when I worked at Lucent, the
    interference would cause boards to fail the test when infact they were good,
    and in the more extreme case, would cause the calibration to get messed up
    on the test set...

    geoff
     
  5. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:3FBAFB49.3206E1B6@spamcop.net...
    >
    > More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    > than a cell phone.



    the Nextel's would screw up the test sets when I worked at Lucent, the
    interference would cause boards to fail the test when infact they were good,
    and in the more extreme case, would cause the calibration to get messed up
    on the test set...

    geoff
     
  6. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:3FBAFB49.3206E1B6@spamcop.net...
    >
    > More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    > than a cell phone.



    the Nextel's would screw up the test sets when I worked at Lucent, the
    interference would cause boards to fail the test when infact they were good,
    and in the more extreme case, would cause the calibration to get messed up
    on the test set...

    geoff
     
  7. And the Nextel is in the same frequency range as most c-phones and has
    more power.


    --
    Thomas M. Goethe

    "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:3FBAFB49.3206E1B6@spamcop.net...
    > maryann wrote:
    > >
    > > There was a thread here a few months ago about cell phone use in
    > > hospitals, with plenty of self righteous talk about the "dangers"
    > > to the patients.
    > >
    > > I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come

    out
    > > of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    > > be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    > > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.

    >
    > More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    > than a cell phone.
    >
    > Larry
     
  8. Geoff Brozny wrote:
    >
    > "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FBAFB49.3206E1B6@spamcop.net...
    > >
    > > More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    > > than a cell phone.

    >
    > the Nextel's would screw up the test sets when I worked at Lucent, the
    > interference would cause boards to fail the test when infact they were good,
    > and in the more extreme case, would cause the calibration to get messed up
    > on the test set...


    That wasn't "Nextel," it was "Nextel-type."

    As someone who works in *alot* of hospital ORs, I've seen both walkie-talkie
    type communicators and regular cell phones. My understanding is that the
    fear of cell phone interference with monitors is a throwback to the days of
    analog.

    Larry
     
  9. JH

    JH Guest

    I'm sorry, what was that again? :)

    "Geoff Brozny" <gbrozny@glorb.columbus.oh.us> wrote in message
    news:wcNNTP.01c3ae5c.5228b690.1497.1069218739@bbs.glorb.com...
    >
    > "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FBAFB49.3206E1B6@spamcop.net...
    > >
    > > More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    > > than a cell phone.

    >
    >
    > the Nextel's would screw up the test sets when I worked at Lucent, the
    > interference would cause boards to fail the test when infact they were

    good,
    > and in the more extreme case, would cause the calibration to get messed up
    > on the test set...
    >
    > geoff
    >
    >
     
  10. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "JH" <pbgaloreNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:Bu6dnYB2ZPBuYieiRVn-uw@comcast.com...

    > I'm sorry, what was that again? :)



    the nextels would cause interfearance to some of the test equiptment out on
    the factory floor in short.


    sorry about my previous post showing up 4 times, I sent a bug report off to
    the author of my news server.

    geoff
     
  11. tommy

    tommy Guest

    In article <17f585bf.0311182050.13162875@posting.google.com>,
    maryann@netzoola.com (maryann) wrote:

    > There was a thread here a few months ago about cell phone use in
    > hospitals, with plenty of self righteous talk about the "dangers"
    > to the patients.
    >
    > I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    > of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    > be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.


    one of the hospitals in my city has no problem with cellphones now.
    When my grandma was in there a few years ago it was strictly NO
    cellphones, but when my niece was in there about a year ago, that rule
    was lifted. Everyone had them, everyone used 'em.

    /tommy
     
  12. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:7ff4d2285f511edf66728fd68b1a7d24@news.teranews.com...
    >
    > That wasn't "Nextel," it was "Nextel-type."


    yea, I know, was just commenting on my own experience. I have no idea if
    Verizons PTT stuff would cause the same issue or not..


    geoff
     
  13. On 18 Nov 2003 20:50:23 -0800, maryann@netzoola.com (maryann) wrote:

    >There was a thread here a few months ago about cell phone use in
    >hospitals, with plenty of self righteous talk about the "dangers"
    >to the patients.
    >
    >I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    >of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    >be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    >seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.


    Wanna have some fun with them? Change your banner to say "Phone is
    off". I got challanged when I walked into the lobby of our local
    hospital one day. I was only going into the business office where
    cell phone usage was not prohibited. I had set my banner to say
    "Phone is off" and when I showed the receptionist the screen, she read
    it and thanked me for complying.
     
  14. Bill Roland

    Bill Roland Guest

    Which is funny, I've seen many cell phones kick into Analog when inside the
    hospital. I've seen at least 5 StarTACs do it...


    "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:7ff4d2285f511edf66728fd68b1a7d24@news.teranews.com...
    > Geoff Brozny wrote:
    > >
    > > "Lawrence Glasser" <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    > > news:3FBAFB49.3206E1B6@spamcop.net...
    > > >
    > > > More than likely a Nextel-type system... More of a walkie-talkie
    > > > than a cell phone.

    > >
    > > the Nextel's would screw up the test sets when I worked at Lucent, the
    > > interference would cause boards to fail the test when infact they were

    good,
    > > and in the more extreme case, would cause the calibration to get messed

    up
    > > on the test set...

    >
    > That wasn't "Nextel," it was "Nextel-type."
    >
    > As someone who works in *alot* of hospital ORs, I've seen both

    walkie-talkie
    > type communicators and regular cell phones. My understanding is that the
    > fear of cell phone interference with monitors is a throwback to the days

    of
    > analog.
    >
    > Larry
     
  15. In alt.cellular.verizon Bill Roland <donotspammeplease@cox.net> wrote:
    > Which is funny, I've seen many cell phones kick into Analog when inside the
    > hospital. I've seen at least 5 StarTACs do it...


    There's probably a metric buttload of RF shielding at a hospital. I'm surprised
    phones could be used at all.

    Back when I worked in Lakewood, Ohio, I worked in an office that had
    an MRI service on the first floor. It was so heavily shielded that you couldn't
    get a cell signal anywhere lower than the fourth floor... Now the MRI is gone
    and you can get a signal anywhere in the building.



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  16. On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:53:15 -0500, "Bill Roland"
    <donotspammeplease@cox.net> wrote:

    >Which is funny, I've seen many cell phones kick into Analog when inside the
    >hospital. I've seen at least 5 StarTACs do it...


    And they all usually go dead when you get to the radiology department.
     
  17. The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
    >
    > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:53:15 -0500, "Bill Roland"
    > <donotspammeplease@cox.net> wrote:
    >
    > >Which is funny, I've seen many cell phones kick into Analog when inside the
    > >hospital. I've seen at least 5 StarTACs do it...

    >
    > And they all usually go dead when you get to the radiology department.


    I sense a morgue joke coming up...

    Larry
     
  18. Hank Arnold

    Hank Arnold Guest

    What is the BFD????????? The hospitals ask that you don't use a cell phone
    in the hospital. You can do without it while you are there.... We lived
    without it for this long. Just turn it off and concentrate on what is
    important. The health of your loved ones....

    --
    Regards,
    Hank Arnold

    "maryann" <maryann@netzoola.com> wrote in message
    news:17f585bf.0311182050.13162875@posting.google.com...
    > There was a thread here a few months ago about cell phone use in
    > hospitals, with plenty of self righteous talk about the "dangers"
    > to the patients.
    >
    > I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    > of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    > be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.
     
  19. David L

    David L Guest

    maryann@netzoola.com (maryann) wrote in message news:<17f585bf.0311182050.13162875@posting.google.com>...
    > There was a thread here a few months ago about cell phone use in
    > hospitals, with plenty of self righteous talk about the "dangers"
    > to the patients.
    >
    > I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    > of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    > be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.


    A nurse in the cardiac unit once explained to me that cell phones
    caused interference with the in house telemetry monitoring systems.
    The nurses carried special pagers attached to their assigned heart
    patients. Probably not the best place to test the theory.

    I suspect some cell phones (Nextel or 3 watt analog?) at one time may
    have interefered with some hospital monitoring equipment. It was
    probably easier just tell everyone to turn off their phones.

    Nextel phones still play havoc with some poorly shielded electronic
    devices.

    -
    David
     
  20. Orac

    Orac Guest

    In article <17f585bf.0311182050.13162875@posting.google.com>,
    maryann@netzoola.com (maryann) wrote:

    > There was a thread here a few months ago about cell phone use in
    > hospitals, with plenty of self righteous talk about the "dangers"
    > to the patients.
    >
    > I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    > of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    > be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.


    I'm in the health care and have worked in various hospitals around the
    country over the last 15 years or so. In my experience, it's highly
    variable what hospitals allow. Of the two hospitals where I have
    privileges, one lets you use cell phones essentially anywhere in the
    building, even in the ICUs and Recovery Room, and the other is very
    restrictive, only allowing cell phones in certain designated waiting
    areas. As part of my duties, I've had to visit hospitals throughout the
    state, and I've found the same variability in terms of allowing cell
    phone use, although few are as liberal as the hospital that allows them
    nearly everywhere. This variability has made me wonder whether today's
    cell phones actually can interfere with the functioning of patient
    equipment. If the case were so clear-cut, I would think that all
    hospitals would ban cell phone use anywhere near patient care areas.
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"
     

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