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Cellphone as modem??

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Josh Grameson, Jun 16, 2004.

  1. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
    news:filbd0defdbg4mniqjts8ral2mtl8b7u5m@4ax.com
    > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:00:02 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> chose to add this to the
    > great equation of life, the universe, and everything:
    >
    >> PS, did you get a new phone?

    >
    > Yes, the plan switch was as much about getting a new phone as needing
    > more minutes.
    >
    >> I didn't and found out a year later the
    >> salesperson had stolen it.

    >
    > Oops. How'd that end up?


    I supposedly just changed phone numbers (I travel and the account was on
    autopay), turns out the salesperson started a new contract for me (instead
    of just changing phone numbers, and never giving me a new phone), now a year
    later (when I tried to use the new every two from the original contract), it
    turns out, that even though I never got a new phone (when I thought I had
    only changed phone numbers), CS tells me, no you aren't eligible, you got a
    new phone when you started a new contract, and 6 months later traded it for
    another phone, not to mention the salesman at the time got a commission for
    starting a new contract. My response was no, I never ever did that.
    Lets see, salesperson got a commission on a new contract, and kept the new
    phone that I never got.... Hmmmmm *I* would call that theft.
     



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  2. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
    news:filbd0defdbg4mniqjts8ral2mtl8b7u5m@4ax.com
    > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:00:02 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> chose to add this to the
    > great equation of life, the universe, and everything:
    >
    >> PS, did you get a new phone?

    >
    > Yes, the plan switch was as much about getting a new phone as needing
    > more minutes.
    >
    >> I didn't and found out a year later the
    >> salesperson had stolen it.

    >
    > Oops. How'd that end up?


    I supposedly just changed phone numbers (I travel and the account was on
    autopay), turns out the salesperson started a new contract for me (instead
    of just changing phone numbers, and never giving me a new phone), now a year
    later (when I tried to use the new every two from the original contract), it
    turns out, that even though I never got a new phone (when I thought I had
    only changed phone numbers), CS tells me, no you aren't eligible, you got a
    new phone when you started a new contract, and 6 months later traded it for
    another phone, not to mention the salesman at the time got a commission for
    starting a new contract. My response was no, I never ever did that.
    Lets see, salesperson got a commission on a new contract, and kept the new
    phone that I never got.... Hmmmmm *I* would call that theft.
     
  3. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
    news:filbd0defdbg4mniqjts8ral2mtl8b7u5m@4ax.com
    > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:00:02 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> chose to add this to the
    > great equation of life, the universe, and everything:
    >
    >> PS, did you get a new phone?

    >
    > Yes, the plan switch was as much about getting a new phone as needing
    > more minutes.
    >
    >> I didn't and found out a year later the
    >> salesperson had stolen it.

    >
    > Oops. How'd that end up?


    I supposedly just changed phone numbers (I travel and the account was on
    autopay), turns out the salesperson started a new contract for me (instead
    of just changing phone numbers, and never giving me a new phone), now a year
    later (when I tried to use the new every two from the original contract), it
    turns out, that even though I never got a new phone (when I thought I had
    only changed phone numbers), CS tells me, no you aren't eligible, you got a
    new phone when you started a new contract, and 6 months later traded it for
    another phone, not to mention the salesman at the time got a commission for
    starting a new contract. My response was no, I never ever did that.
    Lets see, salesperson got a commission on a new contract, and kept the new
    phone that I never got.... Hmmmmm *I* would call that theft.
     
  4. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
    news:filbd0defdbg4mniqjts8ral2mtl8b7u5m@4ax.com
    > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:00:02 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> chose to add this to the
    > great equation of life, the universe, and everything:
    >
    >> PS, did you get a new phone?

    >
    > Yes, the plan switch was as much about getting a new phone as needing
    > more minutes.
    >
    >> I didn't and found out a year later the
    >> salesperson had stolen it.

    >
    > Oops. How'd that end up?


    I supposedly just changed phone numbers (I travel and the account was on
    autopay), turns out the salesperson started a new contract for me (instead
    of just changing phone numbers, and never giving me a new phone), now a year
    later (when I tried to use the new every two from the original contract), it
    turns out, that even though I never got a new phone (when I thought I had
    only changed phone numbers), CS tells me, no you aren't eligible, you got a
    new phone when you started a new contract, and 6 months later traded it for
    another phone, not to mention the salesman at the time got a commission for
    starting a new contract. My response was no, I never ever did that.
    Lets see, salesperson got a commission on a new contract, and kept the new
    phone that I never got.... Hmmmmm *I* would call that theft.
     
  5. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Theodore Heise" <theise@netins.net> wrote in message
    news:200405220001.PNR04570@netins.net...
    > David S writes:
    > > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:23:46 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > > <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> chose to add this to the great equation of
    > > life, the universe, and everything:
    > >
    > > >PS, for those lurking, it was added free on any *new* (not renewed or
    > > >extended) contracts between July 15th 2003, and Dec 31st 2003.

    >
    > FYI, my wife upgraded her phone in May 2004 and switched from some
    > very low cost local only plan to AC, and NA-MOU was added without
    > asking. This was at Radio Shack, by the way.
    >
    > --
    > Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA


    No offense to you Theodore, I just want to make sure I understand what a
    *new* contract means. (you had used the word plan, I used the word contract,
    I always thought they were almost the same but not exactly. I always thought
    you could do things on the same plan/contract like change minutes, but as
    soon as you change plans completely (like from local to national, SR to AC
    etc) that generated a *new* contract, and a new contract start date, and
    allows you to automatically add any free promos at that time for free. (that
    was my basis for the word *new* above, and do not become extended or renewed
    since they aren't the same plan/contract anymore).

    The reason I wonder is that several people have replied to the post I made,
    so I'm wondering if I have it right or wrong. When I changed from SRN to AC
    they told me it was a whole new contract (I was due for NE2 and was told go
    for a new phone first on the existing contract and THEN change
    plans/contracts, or I would lose the NE2)
     
  6. john hood

    john hood Guest

    In article <2jckmiF103mgrU1@uni-berlin.de>,
    Peter Pan <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    >PS, for those lurking, it was added free on any *new* (not renewed or
    >extended) contracts between July 15th 2003, and Dec 31st 2003.


    Hmm. I got a new AC 400min plan, along with a VX-4400, at the end of
    January 2004; it has NA-MOU.

    --jh

    --
    Mr. Belliveau said, "the difference was the wise, John Hood, cgull
    intelligent look on the face of the cow." He was +usenet@
    *so* right. --Ofer Inbar glup.org
     
  7. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "john hood" <cgull+usenet-1087883486@glup.org> wrote in message
    news:40d7c9ff$0$3010$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
    > In article <2jckmiF103mgrU1@uni-berlin.de>,
    > Peter Pan <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >PS, for those lurking, it was added free on any *new* (not renewed or
    > >extended) contracts between July 15th 2003, and Dec 31st 2003.

    >
    > Hmm. I got a new AC 400min plan, along with a VX-4400, at the end of
    > January 2004; it has NA-MOU.
    >
    > --jh


    Cool, what market are you in? Seems that date was for the market I am in
    (Baltimore/DC Market).
     
  8. john hood

    john hood Guest

    In article <2jq0fmF14j4boU1@uni-berlin.de>,
    Peter Pan <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >"john hood" <cgull+usenet-1087883486@glup.org> wrote in message
    >news:40d7c9ff$0$3010$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
    >> Hmm. I got a new AC 400min plan, along with a VX-4400, at the end of
    >> January 2004; it has NA-MOU.
    >>
    >> --jh

    >
    >Cool, what market are you in? Seems that date was for the market I am in
    >(Baltimore/DC Market).


    Boston.

    --jh

    --
    Mr. Belliveau said, "the difference was the wise, John Hood, cgull
    intelligent look on the face of the cow." He was +usenet@
    *so* right. --Ofer Inbar glup.org
     
  9. David S

    David S Guest

    On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:18:52 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> chose to add this to the great
    equation of life, the universe, and everything:

    >>> I didn't and found out a year later the
    >>> salesperson had stolen it.

    >>
    >> Oops. How'd that end up?

    >
    >I supposedly just changed phone numbers (I travel and the account was on
    >autopay), turns out the salesperson started a new contract for me (instead
    >of just changing phone numbers, and never giving me a new phone), now a year
    >later (when I tried to use the new every two from the original contract), it
    >turns out, that even though I never got a new phone (when I thought I had
    >only changed phone numbers), CS tells me, no you aren't eligible, you got a
    >new phone when you started a new contract, and 6 months later traded it for
    >another phone, not to mention the salesman at the time got a commission for
    >starting a new contract. My response was no, I never ever did that.
    >Lets see, salesperson got a commission on a new contract, and kept the new
    >phone that I never got.... Hmmmmm *I* would call that theft.


    But did it get resolved to your satisfaction? Did the salescritter get
    arrested, or at least fired?

    --
    David Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry
    http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter
    Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply
    Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time.
    "Yes, I am a doctor, but I'm Presbyterian. Will that be all right?"
    - Maj. Charles E. Winchester III
     
  10. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
    news:8ddgd094g2aabmrvk0ctoi1p625dna5gpo@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:18:52 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102GSSPAMMENOT@NOSPAMHotmail.com> chose to add this to the great
    > equation of life, the universe, and everything:
    >
    > >>> I didn't and found out a year later the
    > >>> salesperson had stolen it.
    > >>
    > >> Oops. How'd that end up?

    > >
    > >I supposedly just changed phone numbers (I travel and the account was on
    > >autopay), turns out the salesperson started a new contract for me

    (instead
    > >of just changing phone numbers, and never giving me a new phone), now a

    year
    > >later (when I tried to use the new every two from the original contract),

    it
    > >turns out, that even though I never got a new phone (when I thought I had
    > >only changed phone numbers), CS tells me, no you aren't eligible, you got

    a
    > >new phone when you started a new contract, and 6 months later traded it

    for
    > >another phone, not to mention the salesman at the time got a commission

    for
    > >starting a new contract. My response was no, I never ever did that.
    > >Lets see, salesperson got a commission on a new contract, and kept the

    new
    > >phone that I never got.... Hmmmmm *I* would call that theft.

    >
    > But did it get resolved to your satisfaction? Did the salescritter get
    > arrested, or at least fired?
    >


    Nah, he had quit already, turns out he had done the same to several dozen
    other people too. Verizon made a note that changed the contract date back to
    what it was supposed to be, and things would be fine, except for me being on
    the West Coast on vacation, the contract is on the East Coast, and the sales
    droids here in Las Vegas, can't read English (the notes on my account
    changing the contract start date are written in English), so I'll probably
    have to wait until I am back on the East Coast to get a new phone (the
    extras like unlimited N&W, NA-MOU etc are still active, phone I have still
    works, so no rush to change things). I should note here that I came to Las
    Vegas on vacation last November, and am still here 8 months later (long
    vacation, but I don't gamble so I still have money :)

    There is a bright side, I learned a major lesson. The lesson learned out of
    this whole thing was how to buy phones elsewhere (for cheaper and with the
    features I want, usually way cheaper than Verizon charges for the same
    phone, you do **NOT** have to buy the meager selection of phones from
    verizon, they just have to be compatible), how to activate them on my
    existing contract (log on to the verizon website and then my account, click
    on activate phone, enter the ESN, and have it work on my account about 5 or
    10 mins later), order anything I want or need online, have it shipped to my
    home (or the hotel I am at), and never ever deal with the idiots in a local
    verizon store again. Being mad or annoyed doesn't do a bit of good, and just
    hurts me, my philosophy is learn how to do it myself so it never happens
    again.
     
  11. AximGuy

    AximGuy Guest

    On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:28:00 GMT, Josh Grameson wrote:

    > How reliable is using your cell phone as a modem? I heard this can be done
    > with many of the phones, including all the LG.
    > Any information on this would be very apreciated.


    I use my Moto 730 with the $4.99 Mobile Web plan to access my email when I'm
    in an area that doesn't support my dialup ISP or when the hotel charges for
    outside local calls from the room. (I have NSR and National Access isn't
    available).

    It runs at 14.4K, but for occasional use and email/text it works fine for
    me.
     
  12. Peter Pan writes:
    > "Theodore Heise" <theise@netins.net> wrote in message
    > news:200405220001.PNR04570@netins.net...
    > >
    > > FYI, my wife upgraded her phone in May 2004 and switched from some
    > > very low cost local only plan to AC, and NA-MOU was added without
    > > asking. This was at Radio Shack, by the way.

    >
    > No offense to you Theodore, I just want to make sure I understand what a
    > *new* contract means. (you had used the word plan, I used the word contract,
    > I always thought they were almost the same but not exactly. I always thought
    > you could do things on the same plan/contract like change minutes, but as
    > soon as you change plans completely (like from local to national, SR to AC
    > etc) that generated a *new* contract, and a new contract start date, and
    > allows you to automatically add any free promos at that time for free. (that
    > was my basis for the word *new* above, and do not become extended or renewed
    > since they aren't the same plan/contract anymore).


    I'm not a lawyer, and didn't read the fine print, but can say with the
    change from local to AC she also had a new 2-year commitment. Don't
    know if that makes it a new contract, or if the original was amended.

    --
    Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA
     
  13. Peter Pan writes:
    > "Theodore Heise" <theise@netins.net> wrote in message
    > news:200405220001.PNR04570@netins.net...
    > >
    > > FYI, my wife upgraded her phone in May 2004 and switched from some
    > > very low cost local only plan to AC, and NA-MOU was added without
    > > asking. This was at Radio Shack, by the way.

    >
    > No offense to you Theodore, I just want to make sure I understand what a
    > *new* contract means. (you had used the word plan, I used the word contract,
    > I always thought they were almost the same but not exactly. I always thought
    > you could do things on the same plan/contract like change minutes, but as
    > soon as you change plans completely (like from local to national, SR to AC
    > etc) that generated a *new* contract, and a new contract start date, and
    > allows you to automatically add any free promos at that time for free. (that
    > was my basis for the word *new* above, and do not become extended or renewed
    > since they aren't the same plan/contract anymore).


    I'm not a lawyer, and didn't read the fine print, but can say with the
    change from local to AC she also had a new 2-year commitment. Don't
    know if that makes it a new contract, or if the original was amended.

    --
    Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA
     
  14. Peter Pan writes:
    > "Theodore Heise" <theise@netins.net> wrote in message
    > news:200405220001.PNR04570@netins.net...
    > >
    > > FYI, my wife upgraded her phone in May 2004 and switched from some
    > > very low cost local only plan to AC, and NA-MOU was added without
    > > asking. This was at Radio Shack, by the way.

    >
    > No offense to you Theodore, I just want to make sure I understand what a
    > *new* contract means. (you had used the word plan, I used the word contract,
    > I always thought they were almost the same but not exactly. I always thought
    > you could do things on the same plan/contract like change minutes, but as
    > soon as you change plans completely (like from local to national, SR to AC
    > etc) that generated a *new* contract, and a new contract start date, and
    > allows you to automatically add any free promos at that time for free. (that
    > was my basis for the word *new* above, and do not become extended or renewed
    > since they aren't the same plan/contract anymore).


    I'm not a lawyer, and didn't read the fine print, but can say with the
    change from local to AC she also had a new 2-year commitment. Don't
    know if that makes it a new contract, or if the original was amended.

    --
    Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA
     
  15. Peter Pan writes:
    > "Theodore Heise" <theise@netins.net> wrote in message
    > news:200405220001.PNR04570@netins.net...
    > >
    > > FYI, my wife upgraded her phone in May 2004 and switched from some
    > > very low cost local only plan to AC, and NA-MOU was added without
    > > asking. This was at Radio Shack, by the way.

    >
    > No offense to you Theodore, I just want to make sure I understand what a
    > *new* contract means. (you had used the word plan, I used the word contract,
    > I always thought they were almost the same but not exactly. I always thought
    > you could do things on the same plan/contract like change minutes, but as
    > soon as you change plans completely (like from local to national, SR to AC
    > etc) that generated a *new* contract, and a new contract start date, and
    > allows you to automatically add any free promos at that time for free. (that
    > was my basis for the word *new* above, and do not become extended or renewed
    > since they aren't the same plan/contract anymore).


    I'm not a lawyer, and didn't read the fine print, but can say with the
    change from local to AC she also had a new 2-year commitment. Don't
    know if that makes it a new contract, or if the original was amended.

    --
    Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA
     
  16. Tom McCune

    Tom McCune Guest

    Last night I was able to take in the Cubs game in Chicago (not necessarily
    a pretty game, but exciting). So, I got to make my first away from home
    use of accessing the Internet via my cell phone (hotel was walking distance
    to Wrigley). While my home connections gave me download speeds of around
    16KBs, the Chicago connection (I even redialed) was only about 1.2KB. The
    tray icon showed showed something like 300kbs instead of the usual 110,000
    (I'm still not home - this is by memory and my memory may be off right now
    - it's been a long day of driving). I was pleased to have the access, but
    disappointed to have the low speed connection.

    BTW, I checked available WiFi connections. There were three, but two used
    encryption, and the other had very low signal strength and was not usable.

    --
    Tom McCune
    My PGP Page & FAQ: http://www.McCune.cc/PGP.htm
     
  17. Tom McCune

    Tom McCune Guest

    Last night I was able to take in the Cubs game in Chicago (not necessarily
    a pretty game, but exciting). So, I got to make my first away from home
    use of accessing the Internet via my cell phone (hotel was walking distance
    to Wrigley). While my home connections gave me download speeds of around
    16KBs, the Chicago connection (I even redialed) was only about 1.2KB. The
    tray icon showed showed something like 300kbs instead of the usual 110,000
    (I'm still not home - this is by memory and my memory may be off right now
    - it's been a long day of driving). I was pleased to have the access, but
    disappointed to have the low speed connection.

    BTW, I checked available WiFi connections. There were three, but two used
    encryption, and the other had very low signal strength and was not usable.

    --
    Tom McCune
    My PGP Page & FAQ: http://www.McCune.cc/PGP.htm
     
  18. Tom McCune

    Tom McCune Guest

    Last night I was able to take in the Cubs game in Chicago (not necessarily
    a pretty game, but exciting). So, I got to make my first away from home
    use of accessing the Internet via my cell phone (hotel was walking distance
    to Wrigley). While my home connections gave me download speeds of around
    16KBs, the Chicago connection (I even redialed) was only about 1.2KB. The
    tray icon showed showed something like 300kbs instead of the usual 110,000
    (I'm still not home - this is by memory and my memory may be off right now
    - it's been a long day of driving). I was pleased to have the access, but
    disappointed to have the low speed connection.

    BTW, I checked available WiFi connections. There were three, but two used
    encryption, and the other had very low signal strength and was not usable.

    --
    Tom McCune
    My PGP Page & FAQ: http://www.McCune.cc/PGP.htm
     
  19. Tom McCune

    Tom McCune Guest

    Last night I was able to take in the Cubs game in Chicago (not necessarily
    a pretty game, but exciting). So, I got to make my first away from home
    use of accessing the Internet via my cell phone (hotel was walking distance
    to Wrigley). While my home connections gave me download speeds of around
    16KBs, the Chicago connection (I even redialed) was only about 1.2KB. The
    tray icon showed showed something like 300kbs instead of the usual 110,000
    (I'm still not home - this is by memory and my memory may be off right now
    - it's been a long day of driving). I was pleased to have the access, but
    disappointed to have the low speed connection.

    BTW, I checked available WiFi connections. There were three, but two used
    encryption, and the other had very low signal strength and was not usable.

    --
    Tom McCune
    My PGP Page & FAQ: http://www.McCune.cc/PGP.htm
     
  20. Tom McCune

    Tom McCune Guest

    Last night I was able to take in the Cubs game in Chicago (not necessarily
    a pretty game, but exciting). So, I got to make my first away from home
    use of accessing the Internet via my cell phone (hotel was walking distance
    to Wrigley). While my home connections gave me download speeds of around
    16KBs, the Chicago connection (I even redialed) was only about 1.2KB. The
    tray icon showed showed something like 300kbs instead of the usual 110,000
    (I'm still not home - this is by memory and my memory may be off right now
    - it's been a long day of driving). I was pleased to have the access, but
    disappointed to have the low speed connection.

    BTW, I checked available WiFi connections. There were three, but two used
    encryption, and the other had very low signal strength and was not usable.

    --
    Tom McCune
    My PGP Page & FAQ: http://www.McCune.cc/PGP.htm
     

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