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Consumer code - Has anything changed?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Phill., Sep 22, 2003.

  1. Bob Smith

    Bob Smith Guest

    "Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in message
    news:pearl-F5D338.13381322092003@news04.east.earthlink.net...
    > In article <EmFbb.60956$NM1.32402@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
    > "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
    >
    > > You disagree quite often when others say they are happy with the
    > > service they are receiving.

    >
    > Not at all. Undoubtably many people are happy with Sprint. I am

    happy
    > with my Retention Deal. I disagree with the assertion that "MOST"
    > posters here tell about being happy.
    >
    > And Smitty and vargie trying to paint it differently is TROLLing.


    I'm not trolling, I'm correcting you ... And all your misstatements
    are lies ...

    Bob



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  2. O/Siris .

    O/Siris . Guest

    "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    <cc0bbfa8e5d6bc725710528d9afe6fb8@news.teranews.com>:

    > That map is a LARGE approximation. There is at least one LARGE area on that
    > map that is not covered, yet is shaded.
    >
    >


    No, wait, let me guess. This has nothing to do with North Dakota or
    Montana, does it?

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    RØß
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  3. Justin

    Justin Guest

    "O/Siris ." <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
    news:vmupp99bktkf06@corp.supernews.com...
    > "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    > <cc0bbfa8e5d6bc725710528d9afe6fb8@news.teranews.com>:
    >
    > > That map is a LARGE approximation. There is at least one LARGE area on

    that
    > > map that is not covered, yet is shaded.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > No, wait, let me guess. This has nothing to do with North Dakota or
    > Montana, does it?
    >
    > --
    > -+-
    > RØß
    > O/Siris
    > I work for Sprint PCS
    > I *don't* speak for them
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    No, it has to do with false advertising.
  4. William Bray

    William Bray Guest

    What? Do you control their print shop or something? This is much too
    soon to claim any observable changes. Nor do I see and code statements
    that differ from what any provider already claims to do. Perhaps you
    should move to California and sue Sprint- then you might be more
    believable.

    "Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in article
    <Pearl-730666.07013522092003@news05.west.earthlink.net>:
    > Over here in Sprintpcs newsgroup we have a few SprintPCS apologists
    > telling how great Sprint is since the new consumer code. Strange, the
    > complaints keep getting posted, but they ignore those and keep patting
    > themselves on the back.
    >
    > So I ask folks:
    >
    > What changes has anyone seen in any Cellular Carrier since they
    > "adopted" their consumer code.
    >
    > items:
    >
    > + Coverage maps seem as bad as ever, drawn by the marketing department;
    > SprintPCS just went to smaller scale maps on the web, worse than ever.
    >
    > + If one calls with a coverage problem,
    > its the user's fault never the cell companies
    >
    > + If a phone is not working correctly (i.e. not roaming) obviously
    > always user's fault "The Customer is always wrong"
    >
    > + If a model phone is problematic; never admit it, keep selling them.
    >
    >
    > Basically you're promised the moon, sold a cell phone, and then you are
    > a revenue stream, and customer service is a cost to be minimized, but
    > advertising expenses keep going up.


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  5. O/Siris .

    O/Siris . Guest

    "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    <5727645723afbab060181df4132ec0fa@news.teranews.com>:
    >
    > No, it has to do with false advertising.
    >
    >


    Which *is* off-topic if that's not happening in North Dakota or Montana.

    Is it happening there? The original poster has not reported what
    coverage he was speaking, Sprint native, or F&CA.

    --
    -+-
    RØß
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them

    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  6. Justin Green

    Justin Green Guest

    "O/Siris ." <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
    news:vmv685l8usao34@corp.supernews.com...
    > "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    > <5727645723afbab060181df4132ec0fa@news.teranews.com>:
    > >
    > > No, it has to do with false advertising.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Which *is* off-topic if that's not happening in North Dakota or Montana.



    Ok, Mr. Microtopic. Nitpick til your heart's content.

    > Is it happening there? The original poster has not reported what
    > coverage he was speaking, Sprint native, or F&CA.


    Doesn't matter. I'm sure Sprint falsely advertises under both plans.


    > --
    > -+-
    > RØß
    > O/Siris
    > I work for Sprint PCS
    > I *don't* speak for them
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]
  7. Bob Smith

    Bob Smith Guest

    "Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in message
    news:vmv73mv515l2d@corp.supernews.com...
    >
    > "O/Siris ." <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
    > news:vmv685l8usao34@corp.supernews.com...
    > > "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    > > <5727645723afbab060181df4132ec0fa@news.teranews.com>:
    > > >
    > > > No, it has to do with false advertising.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > Which *is* off-topic if that's not happening in North Dakota or

    Montana.
    >
    >
    > Ok, Mr. Microtopic. Nitpick til your heart's content.
    >
    > > Is it happening there? The original poster has not reported what
    > > coverage he was speaking, Sprint native, or F&CA.

    >
    > Doesn't matter. I'm sure Sprint falsely advertises under both

    plans.

    Either plan? With F&CA, you can make a call anywhere in the states
    where either 800 analog, 800 CDMA or 1900 CDMA is available.

    Bob
  8. Justin Green

    Justin Green Guest

    "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:acNbb.58066$Aq2.47105@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    >
    > "Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in message
    > news:vmv73mv515l2d@corp.supernews.com...
    > >
    > > "O/Siris ." <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
    > > news:vmv685l8usao34@corp.supernews.com...
    > > > "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    > > > <5727645723afbab060181df4132ec0fa@news.teranews.com>:
    > > > >
    > > > > No, it has to do with false advertising.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > Which *is* off-topic if that's not happening in North Dakota or

    > Montana.
    > >
    > >
    > > Ok, Mr. Microtopic. Nitpick til your heart's content.
    > >
    > > > Is it happening there? The original poster has not reported what
    > > > coverage he was speaking, Sprint native, or F&CA.

    > >
    > > Doesn't matter. I'm sure Sprint falsely advertises under both

    > plans.
    >
    > Either plan? With F&CA, you can make a call anywhere in the states
    > where either 800 analog, 800 CDMA or 1900 CDMA is available.
    >
    > Bob



    Yep, that's right. Paint the entire US red. No holes whatsoever.
  9. In alt.cellular.verizon Bob Smith <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    > Either plan? With F&CA, you can make a call anywhere in the states
    > where either 800 analog, 800 CDMA or 1900 CDMA is available.


    And exactly why is a thread about Sprint cross-posted to the newsgroups
    for Cingular, Verizon, and T-Mobile?

    Can the participants in this thread PLEASE get a clue and only post
    to a.c.spcs, and maybe a.c? Or would that be too much to ask?

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  10. O/Siris .

    O/Siris . Guest

    "Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    <vmv73mv515l2d@corp.supernews.com>:
    >
    > "O/Siris ." <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
    > news:vmv685l8usao34@corp.supernews.com...
    > > "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    > > <5727645723afbab060181df4132ec0fa@news.teranews.com>:
    > > >
    > > > No, it has to do with false advertising.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > Which *is* off-topic if that's not happening in North Dakota or Montana.

    >
    >
    > Ok, Mr. Microtopic. Nitpick til your heart's content.
    >
    > > Is it happening there? The original poster has not reported what
    > > coverage he was speaking, Sprint native, or F&CA.

    >
    > Doesn't matter. I'm sure Sprint falsely advertises under both plans.


    Obviously, it *does* matter. To the original poster. But, of course,
    that means nothing to you. You're too busy flinging at windmills.

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    RØß
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them



    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  11. Justin Green

    Justin Green Guest

    "O/Siris ." <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
    news:vmvcprffi6ita4@corp.supernews.com...
    > "Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    > <vmv73mv515l2d@corp.supernews.com>:
    > >
    > > "O/Siris ." <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
    > > news:vmv685l8usao34@corp.supernews.com...
    > > > "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    > > > <5727645723afbab060181df4132ec0fa@news.teranews.com>:
    > > > >
    > > > > No, it has to do with false advertising.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > Which *is* off-topic if that's not happening in North Dakota or

    Montana.
    > >
    > >
    > > Ok, Mr. Microtopic. Nitpick til your heart's content.
    > >
    > > > Is it happening there? The original poster has not reported what
    > > > coverage he was speaking, Sprint native, or F&CA.

    > >
    > > Doesn't matter. I'm sure Sprint falsely advertises under both plans.

    >
    > Obviously, it *does* matter. To the original poster. But, of course,
    > that means nothing to you. You're too busy flinging at windmills.
    >
    > --
    > -+-
    > RØß
    > O/Siris
    > I work for Sprint PCS
    > I *don't* speak for them
    >
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]



    Wow, that was original, Mr. Pot.
  12. Bob Smith

    Bob Smith Guest

    "Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in message
    news:vmv821f01d4h65@corp.supernews.com...
    >
    > "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:acNbb.58066$Aq2.47105@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > >
    > > "Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in message
    > > news:vmv73mv515l2d@corp.supernews.com...
    > > >

    <snipped>

    > > > Doesn't matter. I'm sure Sprint falsely advertises under both

    > > plans.
    > >
    > > Either plan? With F&CA, you can make a call anywhere in the states
    > > where either 800 analog, 800 CDMA or 1900 CDMA is available.
    > >
    > > Bob

    >
    >
    > Yep, that's right. Paint the entire US red. No holes whatsoever.


    Sure there are. In those places where there is no analog or CDMA
    signal available ... as I listed above ...

    Bob
  13. Tech Geek

    Tech Geek Guest

    "Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    <vmv821f01d4h65@corp.supernews.com>:
    >
    > Yep, that's right. Paint the entire US red. No holes whatsoever.
    >
    >


    Interesting, no one used to complain when Verizon (and Bell Atlantic
    Mobile) did that...

    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  14. Tech Geek

    Tech Geek Guest

    "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in article
    <acNbb.58066$Aq2.47105@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>:
    >
    > Either plan? With F&CA, you can make a call anywhere in the states
    > where either 800 analog, 800 CDMA or 1900 CDMA is available.
    >
    >

    *disclaimer*

    You'll need a tri-mode phone for 800MHz CDMA coverage (where it is
    available).

    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  15. Justin

    Justin Guest

    "Tech Geek" <pcsguy@NOSPAM.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
    news:vn0f8tl51nd8c9@corp.supernews.com...
    >
    >
    > "Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
    > <vmv821f01d4h65@corp.supernews.com>:
    > >
    > > Yep, that's right. Paint the entire US red. No holes whatsoever.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Interesting, no one used to complain when Verizon (and Bell Atlantic
    > Mobile) did that...
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    Maybe not, but I would have. It's not right, no matter who does it.
  16. Blaster

    Blaster Guest

    x-no-archive:yes "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<acNbb.58066$Aq2.47105@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...r

    "...Either plan? With F&CA, you can make a call anywhere in the states
    > where either 800 analog, 800 CDMA or 1900 CDMA is available.... Bob"


    Wrong.
    People are under the False ASSumption that a "Tri Mode" fone will
    first latch on to whatever compatible digital carrier is in the area,
    (CDMA in the case of VZW/Sprint) & then find a local analog carrier.
    FALSE! The fone has internal PRL software that decides what carriers
    to use & not use, & in what order, & if VZW or Sprint does not include
    a carrier in the PRL, you get No Service.
    For Example, in the NYC/NJ areas, both Sprint (CDMA), & ATT
    (Analog), are NOT in the VZW PRL for those areas. If you wander into
    bad spot for verizon, you will see "no Service" on your fone, even
    though you could be right under a tower that both Sprint & ATT are
    using!!This applies to many areas of the country for ALL carriers.
  17. Bob Smith

    Bob Smith Guest

    "Blaster" <shitblaster@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
    news:90a278e1.0309230737.486b6368@posting.google.com...
    > x-no-archive:yes "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote

    in message
    news:<acNbb.58066$Aq2.47105@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...r
    >
    > "...Either plan? With F&CA, you can make a call anywhere in the

    states
    > > where either 800 analog, 800 CDMA or 1900 CDMA is available....

    Bob"
    >
    > Wrong.
    > People are under the False ASSumption that a "Tri Mode" fone will
    > first latch on to whatever compatible digital carrier is in the

    area,
    > (CDMA in the case of VZW/Sprint) & then find a local analog carrier.
    > FALSE! The fone has internal PRL software that decides what

    carriers
    > to use & not use, & in what order, & if VZW or Sprint does not

    include
    > a carrier in the PRL, you get No Service.
    > For Example, in the NYC/NJ areas, both Sprint (CDMA), & ATT
    > (Analog), are NOT in the VZW PRL for those areas. If you wander into
    > bad spot for verizon, you will see "no Service" on your fone, even
    > though you could be right under a tower that both Sprint & ATT are
    > using!!This applies to many areas of the country for ALL carriers.


    We are not talking about Verizon Wireless and what they have in their
    PRL. The point above was for SPCS, their roaming agreements, and their
    PRL.

    BTW, SPCS was in Verizon's PRL in many markets, till Verizon pulled
    those SIDS out of future PRL versions, as Verizon had more users
    roaming on SPCS (and incurring roaming expenses to Verizon), than on
    their own towers.

    Bob
  18. In alt.cellular Bob Smith <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    > We are not talking about Verizon Wireless


    THEN STOP POSTING TO THE VERIZON WIRELESS NEWSGROUP.

    How many times do I have to say this?


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  19. Just as I've asserted before: All Phillippe and Justin want to do is
    start an argument over some of the dumbest points of Sprint PCS.

    --
    Chris

    Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com


    "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in article
    <jIHbb.62801$NM1.28439@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>:
    >
    > "Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in message
    > news:pearl-F5D338.13381322092003@news04.east.earthlink.net...
    > > In article <EmFbb.60956$NM1.32402@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
    > > "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
    > >
    > > > You disagree quite often when others say they are happy with the
    > > > service they are receiving.

    > >
    > > Not at all. Undoubtably many people are happy with Sprint. I am

    > happy
    > > with my Retention Deal. I disagree with the assertion that "MOST"
    > > posters here tell about being happy.
    > >
    > > And Smitty and vargie trying to paint it differently is TROLLing.

    >
    > I'm not trolling, I'm correcting you ... And all your misstatements
    > are lies ...
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  20. Justin Green

    Justin Green Guest

    "Chris Russell" <noone@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
    news:vn1pvhfe7a2l1a@corp.supernews.com...
    > Just as I've asserted before: All Phillippe and Justin want to do is
    > start an argument over some of the dumbest points of Sprint PCS.
    >
    > --
    > Chris



    You need to catch up. Bob was one of the main nitpickers in my original
    story, claiming that it got "old" after my one post.





    > Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com
    >
    >
    > "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in article
    > <jIHbb.62801$NM1.28439@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>:
    > >
    > > "Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in message
    > > news:pearl-F5D338.13381322092003@news04.east.earthlink.net...
    > > > In article <EmFbb.60956$NM1.32402@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
    > > > "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > You disagree quite often when others say they are happy with the
    > > > > service they are receiving.
    > > >
    > > > Not at all. Undoubtably many people are happy with Sprint. I am

    > > happy
    > > > with my Retention Deal. I disagree with the assertion that "MOST"
    > > > posters here tell about being happy.
    > > >
    > > > And Smitty and vargie trying to paint it differently is TROLLing.

    > >
    > > I'm not trolling, I'm correcting you ... And all your misstatements
    > > are lies ...
    > >
    > > Bob
    > >
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]

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