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Do I HAVE to have data plan to buy a Treo?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Fr@nk, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. Fr@nk

    Fr@nk Guest

    Hi. I have a family share plan I'm happy with. Just cellular, no data plan.
    My family all have plain cellphones. Now, I'd like to upgrade my phone to a
    smartphone (actually a PocketPC/cellphone, like the Treo 700w, UT Starcom
    XV6700, or Samsung i730). If I log onto verizonwireless.com and select
    "Upgrade my phone", these PDA phones are listed as possible upgrades. I
    don't want the internet access with this new phone; I just want the same
    cellular plan I already have. I'll only use the PDA phone to connect to my
    Wifi network at home (like I do with my PocketPC now). I would think I'd get
    a prompt saying I have to upgrade my plan. Right now, the website just lists
    an automatic checkbox on the option to use data on a per-use basis (which
    costs nothing if you don't use it).

    So, my question is: can I just upgrade my phone to one of these PocketPC
    phones, without changing my calling plan? I like my current plan, and just
    want a nicer, more versatile device with which to use it. Thanks in advance.


    Fr@nk
     



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  2. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Fr@nk wrote:
    > Hi. I have a family share plan I'm happy with. Just
    > cellular, no data plan. My family all have plain
    > cellphones. Now, I'd like to upgrade my phone to a
    > smartphone (actually a PocketPC/cellphone, like the Treo
    > 700w, UT Starcom XV6700, or Samsung i730). If I log onto
    > verizonwireless.com and select "Upgrade my phone", these
    > PDA phones are listed as possible upgrades. I don't want
    > the internet access with this new phone; I just want the
    > same cellular plan I already have. I'll only use the PDA
    > phone to connect to my Wifi network at home (like I do
    > with my PocketPC now). I would think I'd get a prompt
    > saying I have to upgrade my plan. Right now, the website
    > just lists an automatic checkbox on the option to use
    > data on a per-use basis (which costs nothing if you don't
    > use it).
    >
    > So, my question is: can I just upgrade my phone to one of
    > these PocketPC phones, without changing my calling plan?
    > I like my current plan, and just want a nicer, more
    > versatile device with which to use it. Thanks in advance.


    Depends on what you mean by "without changing my calling
    plan". You don't have to change your current voice plan. You
    will/may have to *add* a data plan. The data plans tack on like
    adding a feature. The per-use basis is the most expensive per
    kilobyte but costs nothing if you don't use it.

    -Quick
     
  3. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    > So, my question is: can I just upgrade my phone to one of these PocketPC
    > phones, without changing my calling plan?


    No. You must add a data plan.

    -Frank
     
  4. Dave

    Dave Guest

    Fr@nk wrote:
    > Hi. I have a family share plan I'm happy with. Just cellular, no data plan.
    > My family all have plain cellphones. Now, I'd like to upgrade my phone to a
    > smartphone (actually a PocketPC/cellphone, like the Treo 700w, UT Starcom
    > XV6700, or Samsung i730). If I log onto verizonwireless.com and select
    > "Upgrade my phone", these PDA phones are listed as possible upgrades. I
    > don't want the internet access with this new phone; I just want the same
    > cellular plan I already have. I'll only use the PDA phone to connect to my
    > Wifi network at home (like I do with my PocketPC now). I would think I'd get
    > a prompt saying I have to upgrade my plan. Right now, the website just lists
    > an automatic checkbox on the option to use data on a per-use basis (which
    > costs nothing if you don't use it).
    >
    > So, my question is: can I just upgrade my phone to one of these PocketPC
    > phones, without changing my calling plan? I like my current plan, and just
    > want a nicer, more versatile device with which to use it. Thanks in advance.
    >
    >
    > Fr@nk
    >
    >

    I was able to get a Treo from Cingular without the data plan. Officially
    not allowed but the salesperson said there was a workaround, called her
    supervisor and got it done. Your results may vary. BTW, Verizon Wireless
    was unwilling to do this without the data plan. They therefore lost me
    after 10 years as a customer.
     
  5. I tend to disagree with both the previous posts. I purchased a Treo
    through eBay and was able to switch my service to my new Treo and I do
    not have a data plan on it currently. I'm not sure what you all are
    saying when you go in, but I definitely was able to activate my Treo
    without a data plan.
     
  6. Fr@nk

    Fr@nk Guest

    <go4telfair@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1146170674.257640.187040@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >I tend to disagree with both the previous posts. I purchased a Treo
    > through eBay and was able to switch my service to my new Treo and I do
    > not have a data plan on it currently. I'm not sure what you all are
    > saying when you go in, but I definitely was able to activate my Treo
    > without a data plan.
    >


    All-

    Thanks for the responses. I think I have a handle on this now: apparently,
    if you buy one of these PDA phones, Verizon requires you select 1) a
    "per-use" data plan ($0.00, unless you use it--then you pay per Kb or Mb),
    2) a 10MB data plan ($25) or 3) an unlimited data plan ($50 I think). So if
    you go with #1, you're not actually incurring any data charges unless you go
    on their EVDO data network.

    So I believe the answer to my question is technically YES (you have to pick
    one of the three above), but NO, you don't necessarily have to pay any money
    for the plan (if you don't use it). Does anyone agree with this?


    Fr@nk
     
  7. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Fr@nk wrote:
    > <go4telfair@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:1146170674.257640.187040@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >> I tend to disagree with both the previous posts. I
    >> purchased a Treo through eBay and was able to switch my
    >> service to my new Treo and I do not have a data plan on
    >> it currently. I'm not sure what you all are saying when
    >> you go in, but I definitely was able to activate my Treo
    >> without a data plan.
    >>

    >
    > All-
    >
    > Thanks for the responses. I think I have a handle on this
    > now: apparently, if you buy one of these PDA phones,
    > Verizon requires you select 1) a "per-use" data plan
    > ($0.00, unless you use it--then you pay per Kb or Mb), 2)
    > a 10MB data plan ($25) or 3) an unlimited data plan ($50
    > I think). So if you go with #1, you're not actually
    > incurring any data charges unless you go on their EVDO
    > data network.
    >
    > So I believe the answer to my question is technically YES
    > (you have to pick one of the three above), but NO, you
    > don't necessarily have to pay any money for the plan (if
    > you don't use it). Does anyone agree with this?


    Yea, that's my understanding. I'm not so sure about only
    being charged for EVD0 data. I'd agree completely if you
    take out the EVD0. "You're not actually incurring any data
    charges unless you go on their data network.". (there is
    1X, Q2N, etc.) I think that covered your concern though.

    -Quick
     
  8. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    Quick wrote:
    > Fr@nk wrote:
    >> <go4telfair@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1146170674.257640.187040@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >>> I tend to disagree with both the previous posts. I
    >>> purchased a Treo through eBay and was able to switch my
    >>> service to my new Treo and I do not have a data plan on
    >>> it currently. I'm not sure what you all are saying when
    >>> you go in, but I definitely was able to activate my Treo
    >>> without a data plan.
    >>>

    >>
    >> All-
    >>
    >> Thanks for the responses. I think I have a handle on this
    >> now: apparently, if you buy one of these PDA phones,
    >> Verizon requires you select 1) a "per-use" data plan
    >> ($0.00, unless you use it--then you pay per Kb or Mb), 2)
    >> a 10MB data plan ($25) or 3) an unlimited data plan ($50
    >> I think). So if you go with #1, you're not actually
    >> incurring any data charges unless you go on their EVDO
    >> data network.
    >>
    >> So I believe the answer to my question is technically YES
    >> (you have to pick one of the three above), but NO, you
    >> don't necessarily have to pay any money for the plan (if
    >> you don't use it). Does anyone agree with this?

    >
    > Yea, that's my understanding. I'm not so sure about only
    > being charged for EVD0 data. I'd agree completely if you
    > take out the EVD0. "You're not actually incurring any data
    > charges unless you go on their data network.". (there is
    > 1X, Q2N, etc.) I think that covered your concern though.
    >
    > -Quick


    Just to confuse the issue even more... I got mine when I lived in a 1x/Q2N
    area (Spokane Wa), and was never charged, but now I am in Vegas (an EVDO
    area) on vacation, and am getting warned that I will be charged if I use it
    (here on EVDO)... Wonder if there is a way of forcing it to the non-evdo?
    Will I get charged for non evdo use in an evdo area?
     

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