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Do verizon contracts auto-renew?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by zirconx9@yahoo.com, Aug 30, 2006.

  1. I've been with Verizon for about 7 years, and I've been out of contract
    for about 3 (got in a 1 yr contact 4 years ago).

    I've been thinking about getting a new phone, I've had the same phone
    since for 4 years. I wouldn't even be considering a new one except my
    screen is starting to go fuzzy sometimes. I'm on an old plan ($25/mo),
    I don't know if they'll force me to switch plans or not. If they do
    I'll go with TracFone or something.

    Anyway I was wondering if anyone knew if the verizon contracts
    automatically renew? I would consider getting into a 1 or 2 year
    contract to get a new phone, but I had heard rumors about your contract
    auto renewing. I will ask when I go in but from what I've heard you
    really can't trust what they say.

    The other option I am considering is buying a used phone on Ebay and
    then activating it online. That way I couldn't be forced to upgrade to
    a new plan or anything.

    Thanks.



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  2. <zirconx9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1156974018.141146.105160@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > I've been with Verizon for about 7 years, and I've been out of contract
    > for about 3 (got in a 1 yr contact 4 years ago).
    >
    > I've been thinking about getting a new phone, I've had the same phone
    > since for 4 years. I wouldn't even be considering a new one except my
    > screen is starting to go fuzzy sometimes. I'm on an old plan ($25/mo),
    > I don't know if they'll force me to switch plans or not. If they do
    > I'll go with TracFone or something.
    >
    > Anyway I was wondering if anyone knew if the verizon contracts
    > automatically renew? I would consider getting into a 1 or 2 year
    > contract to get a new phone, but I had heard rumors about your contract
    > auto renewing. I will ask when I go in but from what I've heard you
    > really can't trust what they say.
    >
    > The other option I am considering is buying a used phone on Ebay and
    > then activating it online. That way I couldn't be forced to upgrade to
    > a new plan or anything.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >


    The contract is satisfied at the end of its time period but VZW continues to
    provide you the same service at the same terms month to month. If you get a
    subsidized phone from them, they'll require you to sign a new one or two
    year contract so then can recoup the cost of the phone.

    Just buy yourself a new phone on eBay and activate it yourself for free
    online. Make sure the phone you buy though is GPS/E911 enabled or you can't
    activate it.

    On Ebay, it's usually safer to buy from a private party selling off their
    own used phone than from one of the many cell phone resellers. It's kind of
    a crapshoot with them and while they'll give you an exchange/refund, you'll
    need to ship the phone back to them at your expense and if you want a refund
    rather than an exchange, they don't refund shipping charges. The structure
    of many of those deals is a low price for the phone and an exorbitant
    shipping charge. That's no problem if you get a good phone but if you want a
    refund, you get screwed.

    That being said, I've bought about 20 phones on eBay and only had one
    problem. I won't deal with anyone with a positive rating of less than 99%
    either. If they have any negative feedback, read their response to it. That
    will tell you what you need to know about them.

    Doug
  3. Bert Hyman

    Bert Hyman Guest

    In news:1156974018.141146.105160@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
    zirconx9@yahoo.com wrote:

    > I've been with Verizon for about 7 years, and I've been out of
    > contract for about 3 (got in a 1 yr contact 4 years ago).
    >
    > I've been thinking about getting a new phone, I've had the same phone
    > since for 4 years. I wouldn't even be considering a new one except my
    > screen is starting to go fuzzy sometimes. I'm on an old plan
    > ($25/mo), I don't know if they'll force me to switch plans or not. If
    > they do I'll go with TracFone or something.


    No, they don't auto-renew and they don't force you to switch plans if
    you re-up to get new hardware.

    I've been on the same plan since Verizon took over Air Touch here in the
    Twin Cities. Most of the time I've been without a contract, but when I
    just had to have new phones, I've been able to extend for a year or two,
    keep the old plan, and then go without a contract when the time ran out.

    --
    Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
  4. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    > <zirconx9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:1156974018.141146.105160@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >> I've been with Verizon for about 7 years, and I've been
    >> out of contract for about 3 (got in a 1 yr contact 4
    >> years ago). The other option I am considering is buying a used phone
    >> on Ebay and then activating it online. That way I
    >> couldn't be forced to upgrade to a new plan or anything.

    >
    > The contract is satisfied at the end of its time period
    > but VZW continues to provide you the same service at the
    > same terms month to month. If you get a subsidized phone
    > from them, they'll require you to sign a new one or two
    > year contract so then can recoup the cost of the phone.
    > Just buy yourself a new phone on eBay and activate it
    > yourself for free online. Make sure the phone you buy
    > though is GPS/E911 enabled or you can't activate it.


    Yeesh, about the only time it would make any sense to
    buy on eBay so as to not pay retail and not have to renew
    your contract is if you knew you were going to switch
    carriers within the first year. You're taking a chance, no
    warantee, etc. Take the subsidy and you're getting close
    to 100 or more off retail? ETF is $175? The OP said they
    have been with VZW for 7 years. What are the chances
    they're going to terminate within the next year?

    -Quick
  5. "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1kuJg.13451$1f6.11814@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
    > Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    >> <zirconx9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1156974018.141146.105160@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >>> I've been with Verizon for about 7 years, and I've been
    >>> out of contract for about 3 (got in a 1 yr contact 4
    >>> years ago). The other option I am considering is buying a used phone
    >>> on Ebay and then activating it online. That way I
    >>> couldn't be forced to upgrade to a new plan or anything.

    >>
    >> The contract is satisfied at the end of its time period
    >> but VZW continues to provide you the same service at the
    >> same terms month to month. If you get a subsidized phone
    >> from them, they'll require you to sign a new one or two
    >> year contract so then can recoup the cost of the phone.
    >> Just buy yourself a new phone on eBay and activate it
    >> yourself for free online. Make sure the phone you buy
    >> though is GPS/E911 enabled or you can't activate it.

    >
    > Yeesh, about the only time it would make any sense to
    > buy on eBay so as to not pay retail and not have to renew
    > your contract is if you knew you were going to switch
    > carriers within the first year. You're taking a chance, no
    > warantee, etc. Take the subsidy and you're getting close
    > to 100 or more off retail? ETF is $175? The OP said they
    > have been with VZW for 7 years. What are the chances
    > they're going to terminate within the next year?
    >
    > -Quick
    >




    That's OK if you don't want to buy on eBay--- but for me, it makes a lot of
    sense.

    I ported my business landline to VZW about two years ago and I wanted to
    have spares around so I could switch instantly if my main phone died. I'm
    self employed so no cell phone means no client contact which means no
    income.

    I bottom-fished on eBay and picked up 6-7 spares, all of the same type as my
    original phone which I really like. I never paid out more than $20 total for
    each phone plus shipping combined. Best price was $11.35, worst was $20.00,
    average was $17-$18. I've also got a ton of chargers, holsters, spare
    batteries, computer synch cords/software, etc. When I got each phone, I
    activated and used it for a few days to test it. Never got a bad one!

    The phone model I use generally goes for $50-$60 on eBay so I got a pretty
    good. As is often the case on eBay, there's an inconsistent relationship
    between the price you pay and the actual worth or the item in terms of
    quality/condition and included accessories. A little shrewd bidding goes a
    long way to saving a bundle.

    I keep one spare phone in the car, one at the office, one in my brief case,
    one in my suitcase and the rest at home. As long as VZW stays on the air,
    I'm close to bullet proof!

    Doug
  6. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    > "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:1kuJg.13451$1f6.11814@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
    >> Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    >>> <zirconx9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:1156974018.141146.105160@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >>>> I've been with Verizon for about 7 years, and I've been
    >>>> out of contract for about 3 (got in a 1 yr contact 4
    >>>> years ago). The other option I am considering is
    >>>> buying a used phone on Ebay and then activating it
    >>>> online. That way I couldn't be forced to upgrade to a new plan or
    >>>> anything.
    >>>
    >>> The contract is satisfied at the end of its time period
    >>> but VZW continues to provide you the same service at the
    >>> same terms month to month. If you get a subsidized phone
    >>> from them, they'll require you to sign a new one or two
    >>> year contract so then can recoup the cost of the phone.
    >>> Just buy yourself a new phone on eBay and activate it
    >>> yourself for free online. Make sure the phone you buy
    >>> though is GPS/E911 enabled or you can't activate it.

    >>
    >> Yeesh, about the only time it would make any sense to
    >> buy on eBay so as to not pay retail and not have to renew
    >> your contract is if you knew you were going to switch
    >> carriers within the first year. You're taking a chance,
    >> no warantee, etc. Take the subsidy and you're getting
    >> close to 100 or more off retail? ETF is $175? The OP
    >> said they have been with VZW for 7 years. What are the
    >> chances they're going to terminate within the next year?
    >>
    >> -Quick
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    > That's OK if you don't want to buy on eBay--- but for me,
    > it makes a lot of sense.
    >
    > I ported my business landline to VZW about two years ago
    > and I wanted to have spares around so I could switch
    > instantly if my main phone died. I'm self employed so no
    > cell phone means no client contact which means no income.
    >
    > I bottom-fished on eBay and picked up 6-7 spares, all of
    > the same type as my original phone which I really like. I
    > never paid out more than $20 total for each phone plus
    > shipping combined. Best price was $11.35, worst was
    > $20.00, average was $17-$18. I've also got a ton of
    > chargers, holsters, spare batteries, computer synch
    > cords/software, etc. When I got each phone, I activated
    > and used it for a few days to test it. Never got a bad
    > one!
    > The phone model I use generally goes for $50-$60 on eBay
    > so I got a pretty good. As is often the case on eBay,
    > there's an inconsistent relationship between the price
    > you pay and the actual worth or the item in terms of
    > quality/condition and included accessories. A little
    > shrewd bidding goes a long way to saving a bundle.
    > I keep one spare phone in the car, one at the office, one
    > in my brief case, one in my suitcase and the rest at
    > home. As long as VZW stays on the air, I'm close to
    > bullet proof!


    I can understand that. You have a special need. It is critical
    that you are not without a phone. It makes sense to have
    at least 2 backups. Your exposure buying on eBay and no
    waranty afterwards is minimal when spread across volume.
    For most people using a phone for personal use this is not
    the case. They will only want to deal with a single phone and
    can afford to be without for a day or two until they get to a
    store to swap it or receive one via UPS. Total cost is also less.
    I am probably typical of a fairly large segment. I haven't changed
    my address in 18 years. I've been with VZW (GTE Mobile prior)
    for over 9 year with a 2 month venture on Cingular in there. The
    likelyhood of my changing carriers due to moving or simply
    not having cell service in the next 1 or 2 years is close to zero.
    The chance that some other carrier will have an exclusive on
    some feature or technology that I just *have* to have within
    the next 1 or 2 years is close to zero. I have used a smart phone
    for years and the subsidy on those is large. When subtracted
    from the ETF the downside is very small by itself. I have no
    problem with a contract when I need equipment.

    -Quick
  7. Kevin Weaver

    Kevin Weaver Guest

    Quick wrote:
    > Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    >> "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1kuJg.13451$1f6.11814@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
    >>> Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    >>>> <zirconx9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:1156974018.141146.105160@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >>>>> I've been with Verizon for about 7 years, and I've been
    >>>>> out of contract for about 3 (got in a 1 yr contact 4
    >>>>> years ago). The other option I am considering is
    >>>>> buying a used phone on Ebay and then activating it
    >>>>> online. That way I couldn't be forced to upgrade to a new plan or
    >>>>> anything.
    >>>> The contract is satisfied at the end of its time period
    >>>> but VZW continues to provide you the same service at the
    >>>> same terms month to month. If you get a subsidized phone
    >>>> from them, they'll require you to sign a new one or two
    >>>> year contract so then can recoup the cost of the phone.
    >>>> Just buy yourself a new phone on eBay and activate it
    >>>> yourself for free online. Make sure the phone you buy
    >>>> though is GPS/E911 enabled or you can't activate it.
    >>> Yeesh, about the only time it would make any sense to
    >>> buy on eBay so as to not pay retail and not have to renew
    >>> your contract is if you knew you were going to switch
    >>> carriers within the first year. You're taking a chance,
    >>> no warantee, etc. Take the subsidy and you're getting
    >>> close to 100 or more off retail? ETF is $175? The OP
    >>> said they have been with VZW for 7 years. What are the
    >>> chances they're going to terminate within the next year?
    >>>
    >>> -Quick
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> That's OK if you don't want to buy on eBay--- but for me,
    >> it makes a lot of sense.
    >>
    >> I ported my business landline to VZW about two years ago
    >> and I wanted to have spares around so I could switch
    >> instantly if my main phone died. I'm self employed so no
    >> cell phone means no client contact which means no income.
    >>
    >> I bottom-fished on eBay and picked up 6-7 spares, all of
    >> the same type as my original phone which I really like. I
    >> never paid out more than $20 total for each phone plus
    >> shipping combined. Best price was $11.35, worst was
    >> $20.00, average was $17-$18. I've also got a ton of
    >> chargers, holsters, spare batteries, computer synch
    >> cords/software, etc. When I got each phone, I activated
    >> and used it for a few days to test it. Never got a bad
    >> one!
    >> The phone model I use generally goes for $50-$60 on eBay
    >> so I got a pretty good. As is often the case on eBay,
    >> there's an inconsistent relationship between the price
    >> you pay and the actual worth or the item in terms of
    >> quality/condition and included accessories. A little
    >> shrewd bidding goes a long way to saving a bundle.
    >> I keep one spare phone in the car, one at the office, one
    >> in my brief case, one in my suitcase and the rest at
    >> home. As long as VZW stays on the air, I'm close to
    >> bullet proof!

    >
    > I can understand that. You have a special need. It is critical
    > that you are not without a phone. It makes sense to have
    > at least 2 backups. Your exposure buying on eBay and no
    > waranty afterwards is minimal when spread across volume.
    > For most people using a phone for personal use this is not
    > the case. They will only want to deal with a single phone and
    > can afford to be without for a day or two until they get to a
    > store to swap it or receive one via UPS. Total cost is also less.
    > I am probably typical of a fairly large segment. I haven't changed
    > my address in 18 years. I've been with VZW (GTE Mobile prior)
    > for over 9 year with a 2 month venture on Cingular in there. The
    > likelyhood of my changing carriers due to moving or simply
    > not having cell service in the next 1 or 2 years is close to zero.
    > The chance that some other carrier will have an exclusive on
    > some feature or technology that I just *have* to have within
    > the next 1 or 2 years is close to zero. I have used a smart phone
    > for years and the subsidy on those is large. When subtracted
    > from the ETF the downside is very small by itself. I have no
    > problem with a contract when I need equipment.
    >
    > -Quick
    >
    >

    I'm going to leave verizon after 10yrs. 85 days and counting. :)
  8. Robert Coe

    Robert Coe Guest

    On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:22:36 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <doug@faber.edu>
    wrote:
    : I ported my business landline to VZW about two years ago and I wanted to
    : have spares around so I could switch instantly if my main phone died. I'm
    : self employed so no cell phone means no client contact which means no
    : income.
    :
    : I bottom-fished on eBay and picked up 6-7 spares, ...
    :
    : I keep one spare phone in the car, one at the office, one in my brief case,
    : one in my suitcase and the rest at home. As long as VZW stays on the air,
    : I'm close to bullet proof!
    :
    : Doug

    That suggests that you have more than one phone activated at a time. I didn't
    think they'd let you do that.
  9. Robert Coe

    Robert Coe Guest

    On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:41:15 GMT, Kevin Weaver
    <kevinkeithweaver1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    : I'm going to leave verizon after 10yrs. 85 days and counting. :)

    Why? And where are you headed? Enquiring minds want to know. ;^)
  10. Kevin Weaver

    Kevin Weaver Guest

    Robert Coe wrote:
    > On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:41:15 GMT, Kevin Weaver
    > <kevinkeithweaver1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    > : I'm going to leave verizon after 10yrs. 85 days and counting. :)
    >
    > Why? And where are you headed? Enquiring minds want to know. ;^)


    I may go with cingular. Sprint in this area sucks. T mobile is good, So
    they say. But don't know anyone that has it.

    Verizon has played so many games. I moved and cant get signal in my
    house. If I want to place a call, I have to go outside and walk about
    about 30 feet. Verizon says that I'm in a area that reports good.
    I told them to send the verizon guy out and check the signal. Few other
    verizon friends can't get signal in my house as well. So It's not the
    phones.

    I was able to go to a local store and the guy let me use his cingular
    phone at my house. It works. Verizon wont let me out of my contract with
    the no signal deal. They wanted 175.00 ETF.. But I only have 3 months to
    go and at 40.00 a month its less then the 175.00

    I just got updated the other day from verizon. I've been with them for
    12 years. GTE Mobil-Net days.

    Before I moved I was thinking on getting a Moto Q. But after reading
    about verizon canceling contracts on the "Unlimited Data" I bailed on
    that. Good thing.

    Then the bluetooth blocking. The list goes on. But I knew about the
    bluetooth deal before I bought a new phone. And my Razr came with
    bluetooth unblocked. Motorola let some out with out being checked. They
    called me about a month later wanting me to return the phone so they
    could do a free update. (I'm sure they wanted to remove it) Come on,
    Does anyone think verizon calls there customers to advise of bios
    upgrades ? Before that one only call, I've never been called to be told
    about a firmware upgrade.

    Other things also. Like they took away the mp3 playback on my last
    phone. (LG) I got pissed and complained to verizon prez, they took it
    back and I picked the Razr.
  11. In article <85HKg.15105$%j7.8321@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, Kevin Weaver wrote:

    > I may go with cingular. Sprint in this area sucks. T mobile is good, So
    > they say. But don't know anyone that has it.


    What area of the country are you in?

    --
    Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
    Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED

    It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
  12. Kevin Weaver

    Kevin Weaver Guest

    Steven J. Sobol wrote:
    > In article <85HKg.15105$%j7.8321@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, Kevin Weaver wrote:
    >
    >> I may go with cingular. Sprint in this area sucks. T mobile is good, So
    >> they say. But don't know anyone that has it.

    >
    > What area of the country are you in?
    >

    San Luis Obispo area. When contract is done. I'm going to try them
    during there 15 day deal.
  13. rocxspam

    rocxspam Guest

    Kevin Weaver wrote:
    > Robert Coe wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:41:15 GMT, Kevin Weaver
    >> <kevinkeithweaver1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    >> : I'm going to leave verizon after 10yrs. 85 days and counting. :)
    >>
    >> Why? And where are you headed? Enquiring minds want to know. ;^)

    >
    >

    ....[snip]..
    >
    > Before I moved I was thinking on getting a Moto Q. But after reading
    > about verizon canceling contracts on the "Unlimited Data" I bailed on
    > that. Good thing.
    >

    Actually, that may have been your quick ticket out of Vzw per a number
    of accounts on EVDOforums.com under the thread, "VERIZON TERMINATED MY
    SERVICE". If users were dropped by Vzw for exceeding the limit or
    "forbidden" downloads, they were exempted from the ETF since it was
    Vzw's decsion.

    However, I am thinking I have seen some recent posts (on this NG?) that
    is no longer the case (?) Check it out carefully if you do consider
    that approach.

    FWIW,
    ROC
  14. Kevin Weaver

    Kevin Weaver Guest

    rocxspam wrote:
    > Kevin Weaver wrote:
    >> Robert Coe wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:41:15 GMT, Kevin Weaver
    >>> <kevinkeithweaver1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    >>> : I'm going to leave verizon after 10yrs. 85 days and counting. :)
    >>>
    >>> Why? And where are you headed? Enquiring minds want to know. ;^)

    >>
    >>

    > ...[snip]..
    >>
    >> Before I moved I was thinking on getting a Moto Q. But after reading
    >> about verizon canceling contracts on the "Unlimited Data" I bailed on
    >> that. Good thing.
    >>

    > Actually, that may have been your quick ticket out of Vzw per a number
    > of accounts on EVDOforums.com under the thread, "VERIZON TERMINATED MY
    > SERVICE". If users were dropped by Vzw for exceeding the limit or
    > "forbidden" downloads, they were exempted from the ETF since it was
    > Vzw's decsion.
    >
    > However, I am thinking I have seen some recent posts (on this NG?) that
    > is no longer the case (?) Check it out carefully if you do consider
    > that approach.
    >
    > FWIW,
    > ROC

    There still doing it. I've heard this from a few users.
    Evdo is not in this area. That was the main reason I never made the
    change. They don't know when this will be here.

    Thus another reason I dislike verizon. They say "Unlimited" But user's
    find out quick that's not the case. You drain there bandwidth they just
    pull your plug.

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