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Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY for a data plan?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Zalek Bloom, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. Zalek Bloom

    Zalek Bloom Guest

    Today, if you want to use a smart phone with Verizon - you HAVE TO PAY
    for a data plan around $30/month - even if you want to connect to the
    Internet with Wi-Fi connection only. It is an anti-consumer act - it
    is the same as a TV cable service forcing you to pay monthly laundry
    fees in case you use their cable box.
    Verizon is phone company and they have no right to force us to pay for
    a data service we don’t need.

    What you can do? You can fight.
    How? Send a complaint letter to your representative, FCC, or consumer
    groups.

    Here are some addresses:
    Consumer action:
    http://www.consumer-action.org/hotline/complaint_form/

    FCC:
    https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/form2000.action?form_type=2000B

    Find you representative:
    http://whoismyrepresentative.com/


    Here is a letter I emailed to all these agencies:

    Dear Sir/Madam

    I purchased a smart phone which is compatible with Verizon cellular
    service. I was told by the Verizon representative that if I want to
    use a smart phone - in addition to the normal cellular phone service I
    have to purchase additional service - a data plan – about $30/month.

    How come Verizon has the right to force me to pay for the service I
    don’t need?
    Is there any legal way I can stop it?

    So if you agree with me - spread the news.
    I created a web site with this info at:
    http://no-data-plan.onlinewebshop.net/Verizon.html

    Zalek
     



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  2. tlvp

    tlvp Guest

    On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0800 (PST), Zalek Bloom wrote:

    > Today, if you want to use a smart phone with Verizon - you HAVE TO PAY
    > for a data plan around $30/month - even if you want to connect to the
    > Internet with Wi-Fi connection only. It is an anti-consumer act - it
    > is the same as a TV cable service forcing you to pay monthly laundry
    > fees in case you use their cable box.
    > Verizon is phone company and they have no right to force us to pay for
    > a data service we don’t need.
    >
    > What you can do? You can fight.
    > How? Send a complaint letter to your representative, FCC, or consumer
    > groups.
    >
    > Here are some addresses:
    > Consumer action:
    > http://www.consumer-action.org/hotline/complaint_form/
    >
    > FCC:
    > https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/form2000.action?form_type=2000B
    >
    > Find you representative:
    > http://whoismyrepresentative.com/
    >
    >
    > Here is a letter I emailed to all these agencies:
    >
    > Dear Sir/Madam
    >
    > I purchased a smart phone which is compatible with Verizon cellular
    > service. I was told by the Verizon representative that if I want to
    > use a smart phone - in addition to the normal cellular phone service I
    > have to purchase additional service - a data plan – about $30/month.
    >
    > How come Verizon has the right to force me to pay for the service I
    > don’t need?
    > Is there any legal way I can stop it?
    >
    > So if you agree with me - spread the news.
    > I created a web site with this info at:
    > http://no-data-plan.onlinewebshop.net/Verizon.html
    >
    > Zalek


    Why not activate your phone on Page Plus rather than on Verizon proper?

    Cheers, -- tlvp
    --
    Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
     
  3. Zalek Bloom

    Zalek Bloom Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY for adata plan?

    On Dec 11, 7:29 pm, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlL...@att.net> wrote:
    > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0800 (PST), Zalek Bloom wrote:
    > > Today, if you want to use a smart phone with Verizon - you HAVE TO PAY
    > > for a data plan around $30/month - even if you want to connect to the
    > > Internet with Wi-Fi connection only. It is an anti-consumer act - it
    > > is the same as a TV cable service forcing you to pay monthly laundry
    > > fees in case you use their cable box.
    > > Verizon is phone company and they have no right to force us to pay for
    > > a data service we don’t need.

    >
    > > What you can do? You can fight.
    > > How? Send a complaint letter to your representative, FCC, or consumer
    > > groups.

    >
    > > Here are some addresses:
    > > Consumer action:
    > >http://www.consumer-action.org/hotline/complaint_form/

    >
    > > FCC:
    > >https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/form2000.action?form_type=2000B

    >
    > > Find you representative:
    > >http://whoismyrepresentative.com/

    >
    > > Here is a letter I emailed to all these agencies:

    >
    > > Dear Sir/Madam

    >
    > > I purchased a smart phone which is compatible with Verizon cellular
    > > service. I was told by the Verizon representative that if I want to
    > > use a smart phone - in addition to the normal cellular phone service I
    > > have to purchase additional service - a data plan – about $30/month.

    >
    > > How come Verizon has the right to force me to pay for the service I
    > > don’t need?
    > > Is there any legal way I can stop it?

    >
    > > So if you agree with me - spread the news.
    > > I created a web site with this info at:
    > >http://no-data-plan.onlinewebshop.net/Verizon.html

    >
    > > Zalek

    >
    > Why not activate your phone on Page Plus rather than on Verizon proper?
    >
    > Cheers, -- tlvp
    > --
    > Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.


    I live in NYC and I tried AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile - Verizon has the
    best service coverage in NYC. From time to time I also hike
    Appalachian Trail - Verizon has very good coverage on Appalachian
    Trail in NY, NJ, PA and CT.
    I like their service, but not the crap with data plan.

    Zalek
     
  4. Agent_C

    Agent_C Guest

    On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0800 (PST), Zalek Bloom
    <zalekbloom@gmail.com> wrote:

    >Verizon is phone company and they have no right to force us to pay for
    >a data service we don’t need.


    Extremely old news.

    This issue has been vetted in the courts; and has held that Verizon
    *is* within its rights to require a data plan for certain devices it
    sells.

    Next...

    A_C
     
  5. Todd Allcock

    Todd Allcock Guest

    At 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0800 Zalek Bloom wrote:

    > Today, if you want to use a smart phone with Verizon - you HAVE TO PAY
    > for a data plan around $30/month - even if you want to connect to the
    > Internet with Wi-Fi connection only. It is an anti-consumer act - it
    > is the same as a TV cable service forcing you to pay monthly laundry
    > fees in case you use their cable box.



    No, it's be like them requiring you have to have a higher tier to use
    their box.



    > Verizon is phone company and they have no right to force us to pay for
    > a data service we don’t need.


    Sure they do. It's their service in a competitive market. If McDonalds
    decides tomorrow to only sell Big Macs with the purchase of fries and a
    Coke, that's their right as well. If you don't like it, shop elsewhere.



    > What you can do? You can fight.


    Or you can buy a dumbphone, or use a cell carrier with different policies.


    > How? Send a complaint letter to your representative, FCC, or consumer
    > groups.


    Be careful what you wish for. Cellular needs more competition, not more
    regulation. If the Feds waive a magic wand and block stuff like this,
    carriers would just retaliate buy rasing voice rates. Instead of $40
    voice and $30 mandatory smartphone data, you'll end up $70 voice and
    "free" data, and screw over the dumbphone users.

    <snip>

    >
    > Here is a letter I emailed to all these agencies:
    >
    > Dear Sir/Madam
    >
    > I purchased a smart phone which is compatible with Verizon cellular
    > service. I was told by the Verizon representative that if I want to
    > use a smart phone - in addition to the normal cellular phone service I
    > have to purchase additional service - a data plan – about $30/month.
    >
    > How come Verizon has the right to force me to pay for the service I
    > don’t need?
    > Is there any legal way I can stop it?
    >
    > So if you agree with me - spread the news.
    > I created a web site with this info at:
    > http://no-data-plan.onlinewebshop.net/Verizon.html
    >
    > Zalek


    It's their service to sell as they see fit. Vote with your wallet and
    use someone else's. If consumers resisted this nonsense by not buying
    it, carriers would have to react.

    T-Mobile, my carrier, handles it slightly differently. If you but your
    smartphone subsidized, they force a data plan as a condition of the
    subsidy, under the argument that they subsidize smartphones to a greater
    extent than dumb phones, and the data fees help recoup the extra subsidy.
    However, if you pay full price for your smartphone, or obtain it outside
    of T-Mo (eBay, Craigslist, etc.) T-Mo doesn't force you to but a data plan.
    Verizon forces you regardless of what you pay our how you obtain the
    phone. I just avoid getting my phones from T-Mo, and avoid smartphone
    data plans.


    Frankly, if you want a smartphone without data on Verizon, you should use
    a Verizon reseller like www.PagePlusCellular.com. They have cheaper
    plans (unlimited voice and messaging for $40, 1200 minutes and 1200
    messages for $30) use the same Verizon network, and don't have contracts.
    The only "catches" are you don't get subsidized hardware (though the
    cheaper rates more than make up for that) and Verizon doesn't let them
    activate iPhones under any circumstances, so look at Android, Blackberry
    or Windows phones.
     
  6. Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY fora data plan?

    On 12/12/11 5:48 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
    > In article
    > <e021ecc2-13ee-4271-9a8c-026a35526401@v29g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>,
    > Zalek Bloom<zalekbloom@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> I live in NYC and I tried AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile - Verizon has the
    >> best service coverage in NYC. From time to time I also hike
    >> Appalachian Trail - Verizon has very good coverage on Appalachian
    >> Trail in NY, NJ, PA and CT.
    >> I like their service, but not the crap with data plan.

    >
    > So go with PagePlus, then.



    It appears he's more interested in whining than in solving his problem...


    --
    The lion may be king of the jungle, but airdrop him into Antarctica and
    he's just a penguin's bitch.
    -- James Pickett
     
  7. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY fora data plan?

    On 12/11/2011 3:09 PM, Zalek Bloom wrote:

    > How come Verizon has the right to force me to pay for the service I
    > don’t need?
    > Is there any legal way I can stop it?


    I have four phones on the Verizon network with no data plan, but can
    access the web.

    The key is to activate on Pageplus, which is a Verizon MVNO. But you
    bring your own smart phone. Fortunately there are tons of gently used
    Droids on craigslist. An HTC Incredible in excellent condition goes for
    around $100. An original Droid for around $75.

    The carriers can do pretty much anything they want in terms of pricing,
    and the market will decide.
     
  8. Justin

    Justin Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY for adata plan?

    SMS wrote on [Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:15:26 -0800]:
    > On 12/11/2011 3:09 PM, Zalek Bloom wrote:
    >
    >> How come Verizon has the right to force me to pay for the service I
    >> don’t need?
    >> Is there any legal way I can stop it?

    >
    > I have four phones on the Verizon network with no data plan, but can
    > access the web.
    >
    > The key is to activate on Pageplus, which is a Verizon MVNO. But you
    > bring your own smart phone. Fortunately there are tons of gently used
    > Droids on craigslist. An HTC Incredible in excellent condition goes for
    > around $100. An original Droid for around $75.


    Unfortunately craigslist is way too local.
    I never see prices this good on it.
     
  9. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY fora data plan?

    On 12/11/2011 5:00 PM, Zalek Bloom wrote:

    >> Why not activate your phone on Page Plus rather than on Verizon proper?
    >>
    >> Cheers, -- tlvp
    >> --
    >> Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

    >
    > I live in NYC and I tried AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile - Verizon has the
    > best service coverage in NYC. From time to time I also hike
    > Appalachian Trail - Verizon has very good coverage on Appalachian
    > Trail in NY, NJ, PA and CT.
    > I like their service, but not the crap with data plan.


    You misunderstand. Pageplus operates on the Verizon network. Verizon
    provides the voice service. Verizon provides the data service (if you
    want data). Verizon provides the voice mail service (back door Verizon
    voice mail numbers work for Pageplus). Verizon provides the texting
    sevice (xxxxxxxxxx@vtext.com works for Pageplus).

    <http://www.pagepluscellular.com/Plans.aspx>
    Note that there is another plan launching on December 20th, 250 minutes,
    250 text/MMS messages and 10 MB of data for $12 per month. It is not
    shown on their web site.

    The key differences:

    1. On Pageplus, if you roam off the Verizon network onto other CDMA
    networks then there is a 29¢/minute charge. If you roam a lot then
    Pageplus isn't a good choice, but if you only roam off of Verizon
    occasionally then the roaming charges are not a big problem.

    2. You bring the phone. Any Verizon phone will work other than Verizon's
    own prepaid phones. Supposedly iPhones and Blackberries will work though
    they are not officially supported. Android phones are fine.

    For many people the fact that they have to pay full price for a smart
    phone is the deal-breaker, but the reality is that the cost savings are
    quickly recovered in the lower monthly charges. There are loads of
    gently used Verizon Android phones in near perfect condition available
    at low cost.

    3. No high-use data plans. On Pageplus you can choose from no data (pay
    as you go), or plans with 10MB (soon), 20MB, 100MB, or 500MB of data. If
    you're a heavy data user and need GB of data then Pageplus is not a
    viable option.

    4. The cost. As an example:

    Unlimited voice ($69.99), 1000 texts ($10), and 300MB ($20) of data on
    Verizon will be $99.99/month plus taxes and fees, or about $115/month total.

    Unlimited voice, unlimited texts, and 500MB of data on Pageplus will be
    $55/month total.

    So Pageplus would be $60/month less, or $1440 less over two years of a
    Verizon contract.

    Personally, I'm on their $29.99 plan which is 1200 voice minutes, 3000
    texts, and 100MB of data. Since wi-fi is so ubiquitous I use very little
    3G data, but there are times when it comes in handy.

    5. No contracts. Pageplus is all prepaid. You can switch prepaid plans
    anytime, or leave anytime, without penalty.

    You can port your phone number to Pageplus.
     
  10. sms88

    sms88 Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY fora data plan?

    On 12/12/2011 5:35 AM, Justin wrote:
    > SMS wrote on [Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:15:26 -0800]:
    >> On 12/11/2011 3:09 PM, Zalek Bloom wrote:
    >>
    >>> How come Verizon has the right to force me to pay for the service I
    >>> don’t need?
    >>> Is there any legal way I can stop it?

    >>
    >> I have four phones on the Verizon network with no data plan, but can
    >> access the web.
    >>
    >> The key is to activate on Pageplus, which is a Verizon MVNO. But you
    >> bring your own smart phone. Fortunately there are tons of gently used
    >> Droids on craigslist. An HTC Incredible in excellent condition goes for
    >> around $100. An original Droid for around $75.

    >
    > Unfortunately craigslist is way too local.
    > I never see prices this good on it.


    I just got my daughter an HTC Incredible in pristine condition for $100
    on craigslist. We met at the local Verizon store to verify the ESN,
    though I did find a way to do the verification on-line if the seller is
    willing to supply the ESN.

    The prices vary all over the place. I've seen people advertising the
    original Incredible for $250 on our local craigslist, and I've seen them
    for well under $100 if not in perfect condition. I doubt if the ones for
    $250 sell. Patience is the key. There are a lot of Android phones coming
    on the market every month as the two year contracts expire and the
    Verizon customer gets a new phone, often an iPhone.

    Another option is digicircle.com, where the cost is a bit higher but you
    have at least some guarantee that the phone is okay. They have the
    Incredible ranging from $126 (Very Good) to $140 (Like New). The Eris, a
    step down from the Incredible, is well under $100. <http://digicircle.com>

    Then there are the Verizon phones with "bad ESNs" (reported stolen, or a
    broken contract where the ETF was not paid) that get converted for use
    on MetroPCS, that doesn't use Verizon's database of bad ESNs. Those are
    even cheaper.
     
  11. On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:41:28 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
    wrote:

    >On 12/11/2011 5:00 PM, Zalek Bloom wrote:
    >
    >>> Why not activate your phone on Page Plus rather than on Verizon proper?
    >>>
    >>> Cheers, -- tlvp
    >>> --
    >>> Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

    >>
    >> I live in NYC and I tried AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile - Verizon has the
    >> best service coverage in NYC. From time to time I also hike
    >> Appalachian Trail - Verizon has very good coverage on Appalachian
    >> Trail in NY, NJ, PA and CT.
    >> I like their service, but not the crap with data plan.

    >
    >You misunderstand. Pageplus operates on the Verizon network. Verizon
    >provides the voice service. Verizon provides the data service (if you
    >want data). Verizon provides the voice mail service (back door Verizon
    >voice mail numbers work for Pageplus). Verizon provides the texting
    >sevice (xxxxxxxxxx@vtext.com works for Pageplus).
    >
    ><http://www.pagepluscellular.com/Plans.aspx>
    >Note that there is another plan launching on December 20th, 250 minutes,
    >250 text/MMS messages and 10 MB of data for $12 per month. It is not
    >shown on their web site.
    >
    >The key differences:
    >
    >1. On Pageplus, if you roam off the Verizon network onto other CDMA
    >networks then there is a 29¢/minute charge. If you roam a lot then
    >Pageplus isn't a good choice, but if you only roam off of Verizon
    >occasionally then the roaming charges are not a big problem.
    >
    >2. You bring the phone. Any Verizon phone will work other than Verizon's
    >own prepaid phones. Supposedly iPhones and Blackberries will work though
    >they are not officially supported. Android phones are fine.
    >
    >For many people the fact that they have to pay full price for a smart
    >phone is the deal-breaker, but the reality is that the cost savings are
    >quickly recovered in the lower monthly charges. There are loads of
    >gently used Verizon Android phones in near perfect condition available
    >at low cost.
    >
    >3. No high-use data plans. On Pageplus you can choose from no data (pay
    >as you go), or plans with 10MB (soon), 20MB, 100MB, or 500MB of data. If
    >you're a heavy data user and need GB of data then Pageplus is not a
    >viable option.
    >
    >4. The cost. As an example:
    >
    >Unlimited voice ($69.99), 1000 texts ($10), and 300MB ($20) of data on
    >Verizon will be $99.99/month plus taxes and fees, or about $115/month total.
    >
    >Unlimited voice, unlimited texts, and 500MB of data on Pageplus will be
    >$55/month total.
    >
    >So Pageplus would be $60/month less, or $1440 less over two years of a
    >Verizon contract.
    >
    >Personally, I'm on their $29.99 plan which is 1200 voice minutes, 3000
    >texts, and 100MB of data. Since wi-fi is so ubiquitous I use very little
    >3G data, but there are times when it comes in handy.
    >
    >5. No contracts. Pageplus is all prepaid. You can switch prepaid plans
    >anytime, or leave anytime, without penalty.
    >
    >You can port your phone number to Pageplus.


    And with PagePlus, the plan price is all you pay. No additional taxes
    and fees that can add $10 to your monthly costs.
     
  12. sms88

    sms88 Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY fora data plan?

    On 12/12/2011 8:04 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:

    > And with PagePlus, the plan price is all you pay. No additional taxes
    > and fees that can add $10 to your monthly costs.


    Actually those taxes and fees can add a lot more than that. The average
    in the U.S., just for taxes, is nearly 15% for combined state, local,
    and federal taxes. Look at <http://www.ksefocus.com/pdf/wireless_tax.pdf>.

    Then you need to add all the non-governmental fees that the carriers
    impose, Local number portability, E911, Universal Service Fund, etc.. On
    a $100/month plan you could easily pay $115-120.

    A good comparison of costs is for Pageplus's most expensive plan versus
    what something similar would cost you on Verizon proper.

    Verizon: Unlimited voice ($69.99), 1000 texts ($10), and 300MB ($20) of
    data on Verizon will be $99.99/month plus taxes and fees, or about
    $115/month total.

    Pageplus: Unlimited voice, unlimited texts, and 500MB of data on
    Pageplus will be $55/month total.

    As I told one relative, "You have to decide if the monthly savings are
    worth it to you considering that you will have the up-front cost of
    buying a new (or used) smart phone."

    I know people whose prime concern is that they are able to get a
    subsidized phone, and are happy to pay $200 for a smart phone and $120
    per month, but not pay $450 for a smart phone and $55 per month. There's
    nothing wrong with that, it's their money and their choice. That
    up-front cost of $450 is a tough pill to swallow for some people.
     
  13. XS11E

    XS11E Guest

    Agent_C <agent-c-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

    > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0800 (PST), Zalek Bloom
    > <zalekbloom@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>Verizon is phone company and they have no right to force us to pay
    >>for a data service we don?t need.

    >
    > Extremely old news.


    And a very good reason why you should set your newsreader to filter out
    crossposting morons such as "Zalek Bloom"!

    --
    XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
     
  14. tlvp

    tlvp Guest

    On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:41:28 -0800, SMS wrote:

    > ... Verizon provides the texting
    > se[r]vice (xxxxxxxxxx@vtext.com works for Pageplus).


    Thanks, SMS, I had no idea! But I just tried it (ten digits),
    and I can confirm: it worked for me :) !

    Cheers, -- tlvp
    --
    Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
     
  15. Justin

    Justin Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY for adata plan?

    SMS wrote on [Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:41:28 -0800]:
    > On 12/11/2011 5:00 PM, Zalek Bloom wrote:
    >
    > <http://www.pagepluscellular.com/Plans.aspx>
    > Note that there is another plan launching on December 20th, 250 minutes,
    > 250 text/MMS messages and 10 MB of data for $12 per month. It is not
    > shown on their web site.


    really? that's an awesome plan if all you do is use the phone as a phone, occasionally
     
  16. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY fora data plan?

    On 12/12/2011 10:02 AM, tlvp wrote:
    > On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:41:28 -0800, SMS wrote:
    >
    >> ... Verizon provides the texting
    >> se[r]vice (xxxxxxxxxx@vtext.com works for Pageplus).

    >
    > Thanks, SMS, I had no idea! But I just tried it (ten digits),
    > and I can confirm: it worked for me :) !
    >
    > Cheers, -- tlvp


    Sprint: phonenumber@messaging.sprintpcs.com
    Verizon/Pageplus: phonenumber@vtext.com
    T-Mobile: phonenumber@tmomail.net
    AT&T: phonenumber@txt.att.net
    Virgin: phonenumber@vmobl.com
    Boost: phonenumber@myboostmobile.com
    Nextel: phonenumber@messaging.nextel.com
    MetroPCS: phonenumber@mymetropcs.com
     
  17. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY fora data plan?

    On 12/12/2011 5:05 AM, Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:

    <snip>

    > It appears he's more interested in whining than in solving his problem...


    I suspect that like most people he has no idea what Pageplus is. Some
    people I tell about Pageplus do not understand what an MVNO is, do not
    believe that is is possible that cellular service can be that
    inexpensive, and do not realize that Verizon, like most carriers, sell
    the use of their network through MVNOs.

    It sounds like he acquired a smart phone somehow and mistakenly thought
    he could use it with his current Verizon service that lacks a data plan,
    and use data only via Wi-Fi. It's something that a lot of people would
    like to do with smart phones (just as the vast majority of iPad sales
    are for the wi-fi only version because so few people want to pay for a
    3G data plan). Verizon doesn't allow it (nor do other carriers) because
    the cost of the data plan helps defray the handset cost. He could also
    still be under contract, and unable to switch to Pageplus without paying
    an ETF. I had to wait out my Verizon contract.

    Can you imagine the amount of smart phone business Verizon would lose if
    a) more people understood what Pageplus is, b) looked at their actual
    monthly data usage, and c) could do math? You have people like the
    original poster that absolutely will not leave Verizon because they need
    the coverage, would like a smart phone, but aren't interested in a plan
    that costs them $80-120/month. Pageplus is pretty much the only option.
     
  18. tlvp

    tlvp Guest

    On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:03:37 -0800, SMS wrote:

    > Sprint: phonenumber@messaging.sprintpcs.com
    > Verizon/Pageplus: phonenumber@vtext.com
    > T-Mobile: phonenumber@tmomail.net
    > AT&T: phonenumber@txt.att.net
    > Virgin: phonenumber@vmobl.com
    > Boost: phonenumber@myboostmobile.com
    > Nextel: phonenumber@messaging.nextel.com
    > MetroPCS: phonenumber@mymetropcs.com


    Outstanding! Thanks for amassing these all in one handy spot!

    Now for the converse: instructions how to get a handset to send
    to an email address via SMS technology only.

    For example, on T-Mobile: compose a message as follows

    : user@emailaddy.TLD # subject # message body

    and send it to 500 (T-Mobile's SMS-to-email gateway).

    On other carriers, how, if you know? Many TIA!

    And cheers, -- tlvp
    --
    Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
     
  19. Justin

    Justin Guest

    Re: Do you want to use a smart phone with Verizon and NOT PAY for adata plan?

    tlvp wrote on [Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:49:50 -0500]:
    > On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:03:37 -0800, SMS wrote:
    >
    >> Sprint: phonenumber@messaging.sprintpcs.com
    >> Verizon/Pageplus: phonenumber@vtext.com
    >> T-Mobile: phonenumber@tmomail.net
    >> AT&T: phonenumber@txt.att.net
    >> Virgin: phonenumber@vmobl.com
    >> Boost: phonenumber@myboostmobile.com
    >> Nextel: phonenumber@messaging.nextel.com
    >> MetroPCS: phonenumber@mymetropcs.com

    >
    > Outstanding! Thanks for amassing these all in one handy spot!
    >
    > Now for the converse: instructions how to get a handset to send
    > to an email address via SMS technology only.
    >
    > For example, on T-Mobile: compose a message as follows
    >
    >: user@emailaddy.TLD # subject # message body
    >
    > and send it to 500 (T-Mobile's SMS-to-email gateway).
    >
    > On other carriers, how, if you know? Many TIA!


    Verizon I just enter the email address as the to:
     
  20. Steve Sobol

    Steve Sobol Guest

    In article <jc579g$at0$1@dont-email.me>, sms88 says...

    > I just got my daughter an HTC Incredible in pristine condition for

    $100
    > on craigslist. We met at the local Verizon store to verify the ESN,
    > though I did find a way to do the verification on-line if the seller is
    > willing to supply the ESN.


    I personally don't trust Craigslist; I'd buy off eBay instead, because
    at least on eBay they have a way that you can verify the seller's
    reputation (and if the seller is engaging in outright fraud, you have
    recourse, which you do not have on Craigslist).

    Just my 2 cents, your mileage may vary, etc., etc.


    --
    Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
    sjsobol@JustThe.net
     

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