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Express Network with America's Choice

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Nite Rider, Apr 26, 2004.

  1. Dr.wireMORE

    Dr.wireMORE Guest

    The dr tried to establish when one might figure out that you need an extra
    feature/service as part of your plan to get national access So I went
    on-line and started a new self-service activation.
    Calling Plans
    America's Choice 500 minute plan (optional service called mobile web,
    but says nothing about laptop use)
    Phones LG6000, 2 yr contract hummm mobile office kit (with the cable
    I need phone<=>laptop
    Mobile Office Kit "Everything ...to get your laptop onto
    NationalAccess network...Quick 2 Net"

    Not clarity, but a good chance that everybody is wrong and yet everybody is
    right, depending upon when you signed up for your plan or promotion. This
    is a mink hole: to easy to get into and stay there. We all know that this
    can be, is, was, and may continue to be confusing. Try and get it at the
    lowest possible price, and verizon always has the last and final say.

    <snip>

    > "Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:CZnjc.46404$_L6.3881618@attbi_s53...
    > > Well my plan doesn't say NA-MOU anywhere (do yours say anything

    anywhere)
    > <snip>
    > > > > Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
    > > > > Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
    > > > > laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during
    > > > > prime time.
    > > > >
    > > > > Don in Tracy, Calif.
     



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  2. Ed

    Ed Guest

    I retract my message copied below. I guess it was just a network
    glitch. As of this A.M. EN-MOU is again working. :)

    On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:03:42 GMT, Ed <nobodyspecial@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    >As of today, my EN-MOU on Americas Choice was disconnected. I've
    >hardly used it recently but last week I ran up 25 minutes of data
    >time (7135 as a modem). Went to use it again today and it no longer
    >worked. Forgot the error response but it seemed kind of obvious what
    >was up. Q2N worked fine. I've had EN-MOU on AC for just about a year.
    >Maybe it's just the local system (N.NJ) being down but somehow I doubt
    >it. I tried all day with no luck trying to just use Snappermail to
    >POP my email directly from my 7135. If it still doesn't work tomorrow
    >I'll assume the free ride is finally over.
    >
     
  3. It will usually work just fine.....if VZW signs you up to the official
    broadband plan. they make more money. broadband is part of most of the
    plans in order for the picture phone plans to work. But you won't be able
    to access the net via phone only unless you order MobilWeb...
    "Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:Zugjc.43402$IW1.2143186@attbi_s52...
    > Hi,
    >
    > As I mentioned earlier, I asked a sales person at the store whether I

    would
    > be able to access the express network with my America's Choice Family Plan
    > using only my airtime as my only charge. He said yes and all I need is a
    > data cable to do so.
    >
    > Then I called customer service at Verizon and talked to some woman. She

    told
    > me the exact same thing. Then some data specialist calls back and says

    that
    > what the woman said is totally bogus. He said that only Quick2Net is for
    > airtime only, while Express Network reguires a seperate plan.
    >
    > Then I said some people are able to access it anyway. He answered saying

    it
    > is a bug with picture messaging and if I do connect to the express network
    > anyway that I would be charged for it 25 cents a minute. In a serious

    voice
    > too, like he was trying to scare me.
    >
    > Reading how much picture messaging costs it shows only 25 cents per

    picture
    > plus airtime if you don't have a picture messaging plan. Now considering
    > that being the case I think the guy is just trying to get more money for
    > Verizon with all of the NationalAccess plans.
    >
    > Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice

    plan
    > and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
    > may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
    >
    > Nite Rider
    >
    >
    >
     
  4. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    One other note: It's a long story, but I had an America's Choice plan, and
    switched to a local plan. In this case, the "National Access" feature stayed
    on my account, even though this feature doesn't appear to be normally
    available on local plans (well actually, even that is unclear).

    Anyway, for odd reasons I actually switched back to AC and the feature of
    course stayed. In any event it is possible to have the feature on a local
    plan, but I doubt it is added automatically to those like it is for AC
    users.

    -Dan
     
  5. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Nite Rider said:

    ; Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice plan
    ; and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
    ; may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.

    Funny you should ask, as I just finished dealing with that very
    screw-up...

    My hardware: Kyocera 7135 PalmOS smartphone. 1xRTT ExpressNetwork/
    NationalAccess capable, native Internet support with the appropriate
    software installed and service plan.

    I was on a NationalAccess plan, as that was the only way to get the
    "real" net without an additional $25/month rider for only 5M of data.
    I recently switched to an America's Choice so I can bundle my cellular
    and eventual Verizon landline service into a single bill. Ever since,
    I have been UNABLE to use the ExpressNetwork.

    When I asked about switching to the AC plan, I asked several times and
    was assured that I would be able to retain my data use, under
    "NationalAccess-Minutes Of Use". Two days ago, I'm told that even
    though NA-MOU is on my plan, I need to add Mobil Web at $5/month to do
    this. It still does not work. I can now use the WAP browser to access
    MSN content, but not my own sites and bookmarks. If I want my own WAP
    enabled bookmarks, I need to actually sign up for a MSN Passport
    account, and keep my bookmarks online. If I want to use email, I have
    to use Hotmail's WAP interface.

    I want to use my own stuff. I want to be able to tether the phone to
    my laptop and use my own full-size applications.

    The only way I can do this without spending more than it's worth is to
    change back to a NationalAccess plan.

    If wasn't using a PDA/Phone combo, the America's Choice/Mobile Web
    setup would probably suffice.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our
    inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the
    state of facts and evidence." John Adams, 1770
     
  6. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, jeff said:

    ; I assume that:
    ; EN-MOU = Express Network Minutes of Use
    ; NA-MOU = National Access Minutes of Use.
    ;
    ; What is the difference between National Access and Express Network? Verizon

    Just the name. ExpressNetwork is the old name.

    ; just told me National Access costs either $45 on a PDA or $80 on a laptop
    ; for unlimited access to the Express Network. (They didn't know what Minutes

    Expensive, huh? The PDA vs laptop bit is just their idea of "typical
    use". The difference should be metered vs unlimited, not pda vs
    laptop.

    ; of Use was apparently.) But, they said National Access won't work in
    ; non-Express-Network areas,

    Well, that does make sense since NA and EN are the same thing.

    It seems to me, from my own personal experience, that if you want true
    voice/data freedom, both coming out of the same minutes pool, and you
    are wanting to use your own choice of software and sites/servers on the
    net, then you need to either $pend the extra to get the data add-on to
    America's Choice or go with a National Access plan.

    The drawback to the NA plans is they don't have the nights/weekend
    bonus time or some of the other "enhanced" calling features.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "How do you know if you don't measure if you have a system that simply
    suckles kids through?" - George W. Bush, Explaining the need for
    educational accountability, Beaufort, S.C.,Feb.16, 2000
     
  7. Dr.wireMORE

    Dr.wireMORE Guest

    The dr suggests: add the mobile web feature: $4.99/mo, and you should get
    the results you were hoping for given your phone has the 1x.

    dr.

    "Jeffrey Kaplan" <acv@gordol.org> wrote in message
    news:hp2u80tvnmdv8d5tbsc8petkr706bek78k@news20.forteinc.com...
    > Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, jeff said:
    >
    > ; I assume that:
    > ; EN-MOU = Express Network Minutes of Use
    > ; NA-MOU = National Access Minutes of Use.
    > ;
    > ; What is the difference between National Access and Express Network?

    Verizon
    >
    > Just the name. ExpressNetwork is the old name.
    >
    > ; just told me National Access costs either $45 on a PDA or $80 on a

    laptop
    > ; for unlimited access to the Express Network. (They didn't know what

    Minutes
    >
    > Expensive, huh? The PDA vs laptop bit is just their idea of "typical
    > use". The difference should be metered vs unlimited, not pda vs
    > laptop.
    >
    > ; of Use was apparently.) But, they said National Access won't work in
    > ; non-Express-Network areas,
    >
    > Well, that does make sense since NA and EN are the same thing.
    >
    > It seems to me, from my own personal experience, that if you want true
    > voice/data freedom, both coming out of the same minutes pool, and you
    > are wanting to use your own choice of software and sites/servers on the
    > net, then you need to either $pend the extra to get the data add-on to
    > America's Choice or go with a National Access plan.
    >
    > The drawback to the NA plans is they don't have the nights/weekend
    > bonus time or some of the other "enhanced" calling features.
    >
    > --
    > Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    > The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol
    >
    > "How do you know if you don't measure if you have a system that simply
    > suckles kids through?" - George W. Bush, Explaining the need for
    > educational accountability, Beaufort, S.C.,Feb.16, 2000
     
  8. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Dr.wireMORE said:

    ; The dr suggests: add the mobile web feature: $4.99/mo, and you should get
    ; the results you were hoping for given your phone has the 1x.

    BTDT. Either it was added wrong or it doesn't support what I want.
    See my other message in this thread: Message-ID:
    <nl1u805nvjjn6iuqtce4fmp5p5m0t0mn56@news20.forteinc.com>

    I'm now back on a NationalAccess plan and my data is working. I'm
    going to re-visit the America's Choice/NA-MOU thing on my next billing
    recycle.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "It is not Reaganesque to support a tax plan that is Clinton in
    nature." George W. Bush, Los Angeles, Feb. 23, 2000
     
  9. Nite Rider

    Nite Rider Guest

    Hi again,

    Well I checked my bill on my new cell phone and found that National
    Access with Msg-Pix Basic is enabled. So I guess once I get the cable
    I'll be surfing the net.

    In the meantime my other phones in the familyshare plan have roamer
    toll and home toll features, while the new phone does not. What do
    these two things do anyway.

    Nite Rider

    Jeffrey Kaplan <acv@gordol.org> wrote in message news:<nl1u805nvjjn6iuqtce4fmp5p5m0t0mn56@news20.forteinc.com>...
    > Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Nite Rider said:
    >
    > ; Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice plan
    > ; and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
    > ; may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
    >
    > Funny you should ask, as I just finished dealing with that very
    > screw-up...
    >
    > My hardware: Kyocera 7135 PalmOS smartphone. 1xRTT ExpressNetwork/
    > NationalAccess capable, native Internet support with the appropriate
    > software installed and service plan.
    >
    > I was on a NationalAccess plan, as that was the only way to get the
    > "real" net without an additional $25/month rider for only 5M of data.
    > I recently switched to an America's Choice so I can bundle my cellular
    > and eventual Verizon landline service into a single bill. Ever since,
    > I have been UNABLE to use the ExpressNetwork.
    >
    > When I asked about switching to the AC plan, I asked several times and
    > was assured that I would be able to retain my data use, under
    > "NationalAccess-Minutes Of Use". Two days ago, I'm told that even
    > though NA-MOU is on my plan, I need to add Mobil Web at $5/month to do
    > this. It still does not work. I can now use the WAP browser to access
    > MSN content, but not my own sites and bookmarks. If I want my own WAP
    > enabled bookmarks, I need to actually sign up for a MSN Passport
    > account, and keep my bookmarks online. If I want to use email, I have
    > to use Hotmail's WAP interface.
    >
    > I want to use my own stuff. I want to be able to tether the phone to
    > my laptop and use my own full-size applications.
    >
    > The only way I can do this without spending more than it's worth is to
    > change back to a NationalAccess plan.
    >
    > If wasn't using a PDA/Phone combo, the America's Choice/Mobile Web
    > setup would probably suffice.
     

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