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Had Enough: Finally Pulling VZW's Plug

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Steve Crow, Dec 18, 2003.

  1. Steve Crow

    Steve Crow Guest

    If you look at the coverage maps (focus on the Local DigitalChoice map)
    the only real coverage holes in Virginia are in Hanover and Caroline
    counties, and they are two huge holes. Caroline, I can understand... Fort
    A.P. Hill. But the Montpelier/Beaverdam area has been a trouble spot for
    years, and VZW won't do a damn thing about it. Curiously, they put in a
    tower about two years ago, but never actually went "live" with it.

    I'll have to check out southern Stafford. Not sure exactly what area
    you're referring to, but the areas closer to Fredericksburg seem to be
    okay... Ferry Farm/White Oak areas.

    Steve

    On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Diamond Dave wrote:

    > Sorry to see you go Steve.
    >
    > Verizon is still going OK here. I wonder why the northern suburbs of
    > Richmond are now not working? And the billing issue! Did you check
    > online to see if your paper billing was turned off by accident?
    >
    > When I move to southern Stafford county, service will be horrible. No
    > carrier works there very well. Cingular, Sprint, Verizon are all bad
    > for some reason. I'll won't even go near AT&T/Suncom, T-Mobile or God
    > forbid, Nextel.
    >
    > I'll invest in a CellSocket to make calls from my new house :(
    >
    > Dave
    >
    > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:40:17 -0500, Steve Crow <scrow@stevecrow.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >As most of you in this newsgroup know, for the last year and a half I have
    > >been a very loyal fan of VZW. As of the last couple months, service
    > >quality has deteriorated to the point the service is virtually unusable
    > >over 50% of the time here in the northern side of Richmond, VA. Dropped
    > >calls, prolonged network outages, and data "blackouts" lasting days on
    > >end. Calls to VZW have gotten me nowhere, and now I'm not even getting a
    > >bill.
    > >
    > >I

    >



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  2. David L

    David L Guest

    "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<b7NEb.5594$wL6.1137@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
    > SPCS offers two versions of F & C.
    > The standard version - F & C - is where customers can make and receive calls
    > whenever they are on SPCS's system, without regard of having just local
    > coverage. They can roam on whoever SPCS has roaming agreements in that
    > respective area.
    >
    > Then there is an option one can buy called F&CA, which includes roaming at
    > no additional expense ... up to 50% of the minutes used in a month, whether
    > the roaming is on 800 Analog or CDMA & 1900 CDMA.
    >
    > With previous PRL versions, we couldn't roam on 800 CDMA, as SPCS only
    > offered 1900 CDMA and 800 Analog roaming with very limited roaming on 1900
    > CDMA on another provider. For a long time, SPCS only sold 1900 CDMA single
    > band or 1900 CDMA / 800 Analog dual band phones. Now, most phones sold are
    > Dual Band / Tri mode.
    >
    > With this new 10021 PRL, we can now digitally roam on both 800 & 1900 CDMA
    > in a hellava lot more places, where other providers offer 800 or 1900 CDMA
    > coverage.
    >
    > Bob


    Bob,
    Thanks for the clarification. That's some _very_ exciting news and a
    major shift for SPCS. I'll have to take a look at the PRL breakdown
    and new coverage maps, if they're available somewhere?

    More extensive network coverage and competitive plans are a win for
    everyone, no matter which service provider they are using.

    With the growing pressure from the GSM camp, I suspect a great deal
    more cooperation among the CDMA carriers and their analog roaming will
    be required.

    I think this move towards a greater sharing of CDMA networks has been
    planned for some time. Verizon's huge installed base of 1900mhz
    capable handsets with some SPCS roaming... and now, 800mhz D/A roaming
    plans on SPCS.

    While Verizon is offering all digital, Sprint like AC calling plans,
    Sprint is offering Verizon like, roaming partner plans. Interesting!

    -
    David
  3. _KC_

    _KC_ Guest

    "Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:b7NEb.5594$wL6.1137@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    >
    > "_KC_" <kc@kc.com> wrote in message
    > news:BqJEb.5254$wL6.1982@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > <snipped>
    > > I thought that it could be the case of them not having the phone setup
    > > correctly but there has been several different SPCS customers in here

    that
    > I
    > > know are on the Free and Clear plans and none would work in here, so I
    > > figured chances they are all setup incorrectly was slim. I would be
    > > interested to know if the Free and Clear includes this areas Verizon

    > system.
    > > I am in triad area of NC BTW.

    >
    > KC, I think you might be a bit confused. SPCS offers two versions of F &

    C.
    > The standard version - F & C - is where customers can make and receive

    calls
    > whenever they are on SPCS's system, without regard of having just local
    > coverage. They can roam on whoever SPCS has roaming agreements in that
    > respective area.
    >
    > Then there is an option one can buy called F&CA, which includes roaming at
    > no additional expense ... up to 50% of the minutes used in a month,

    whether
    > the roaming is on 800 Analog or CDMA & 1900 CDMA.
    >
    > With previous PRL versions, we couldn't roam on 800 CDMA, as SPCS only
    > offered 1900 CDMA and 800 Analog roaming with very limited roaming on 1900
    > CDMA on another provider. For a long time, SPCS only sold 1900 CDMA single
    > band or 1900 CDMA / 800 Analog dual band phones. Now, most phones sold are
    > Dual Band / Tri mode.
    >
    > With this new 10021 PRL, we can now digitally roam on both 800 & 1900 CDMA
    > in a hellava lot more places, where other providers offer 800 or 1900 CDMA
    > coverage.
    >
    > Bob




    Thanks for the info Bob.



    KC

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