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Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Ness-Net, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. Ness-Net

    Ness-Net Guest

    Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    Which probably will happen.

    Welcome back Larry!!



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  2. Steve Sobol

    Steve Sobol Guest

    On 2008-06-04, Ness-Net <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
    > Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.


    That's a shame.

    --
    Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
    Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol
  3. Larry

    Larry Guest

    "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in news:C-
    ydnYJl9LtLddvVnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    > Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    > Which probably will happen.
    >
    > Welcome back Larry!!
    >


    Url, please....
  4. Larry

    Larry Guest

    "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in news:C-
    ydnYJl9LtLddvVnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    > Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    > Which probably will happen.
    >
    > Welcome back Larry!!


    VZW can't own Alltel in Charleston........

    FCC Regulations against owning BOTH 800 A and B in one market.

    Matter of fact that would be true for across SC.....

    I wonder who my new carrier would be??

    I know it's hard to believe, but VZW ISN'T omnipotent against FCC
    regulations.

    Just a point.

    I'd NEVER come back to VZW. I'd rather do without than deal with those
    assholes.....got it?
  5. Larry

    Larry Guest

    "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in news:C-
    ydnYJl9LtLddvVnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    > Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    > Which probably will happen.
    >
    > Welcome back Larry!!


    Never mind URL. It's all over the place. The Jews at Goldman-Sachs are in
    financial trouble like the rest of their kind so gotta sell off assets.

    I doubt FCC will allow it.....we'll see. FCC has the final word.

    It was nice having unlimited internet while it lasted......

    After Alltel's demise, noone will have unlimited internet service on any
    system, here, and in most places......
  6. On 2008-06-04, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
    > VZW can't own Alltel in Charleston........
    >
    > FCC Regulations against owning BOTH 800 A and B in one market.


    Maybe there were at one point, but apparently not as recently
    as the Cingular acquisition of AT&T Wireless. AT&T still owns
    both A and B sides at least along most of the east coast of Florida,
    in chunks of eastern Texas and in the Virgin Islands, that I know
    of, from that acquisition. I don't think the FCC special-cases
    800 Mhz any more, if there are 1900 MHz competitors then all is
    well.

    > Matter of fact that would be true for across SC.....
    >
    > I wonder who my new carrier would be??


    Even if they did divest themselves of one of the spectrum licenses
    to help pay for an acquisition they wouldn't necessarily sell the
    customers with it. If AT&T wanted the spectrum they might not
    want to take all those customers with CDMA phones along with
    it, they might prefer trying to persuade you to buy your own new
    equipment if you want to jump ship from Verizon.

    I think I've seen rumors about Verizon acquiring Alltel every year
    since 2004 or 2005, though, so I'm not quite sure you have a lot to
    worry about. Then again, Alltel has a lot of debt (at 13%, see

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newIssuesNews/idUSN0329069320080403

    ) in a bad credit market so maybe this year's rumor is more credible?

    Dennis Ferguson
  7. Diamond Dave

    Diamond Dave Guest

    On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 12:11:15 -0700, "Ness-Net"
    <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:

    >Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    >Which probably will happen.
    >
    >Welcome back Larry!!


    Actually, I like Alltel a bit more than VZW. Unfortunately, Alltel is
    not available where I live. 30 miles to the west or south - but not in
    my immediate area.

    Interesting if this one passes muster.

    IMHO, two companies will be left - VZW and AT&T.

    VZW will eventually buy Sprint Nextel since they suck so bad. US
    Cellular will probably sell out to VZW as well.

    AT&T will buy the T-Mobile offerings since they can't get much of a
    foot hold in the US. Either that, or use each other's towers without
    roaming fees.

    The next few years (3 to 5) shall be interesting in the wireless media
    (phone + data) market.
  8. Diamond Dave

    Diamond Dave Guest

    On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:51:50 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

    >FCC Regulations against owning BOTH 800 A and B in one market.


    Wrong. IIRC, AT&T operates on both A & B bands in south Florida. Now
    that the 1900 MHz PCS band is available, I think they can now do this.

    Besides, if VZW had to, they'd sell off one of the bands to AT&T. I'm
    sure they'd love to have some 800 MHz spectrum.

    Dave
  9. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Larry wrote:
    > "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in news:C-
    > ydnYJl9LtLddvVnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
    >
    >> Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    >> Which probably will happen.
    >>
    >> Welcome back Larry!!

    >
    > VZW can't own Alltel in Charleston........
    >
    > FCC Regulations against owning BOTH 800 A and B in one market.


    No such regulation anymore. AT&T has both A&B in numerous markets as a
    result of the acquisition of the old AT&T Wireless by Cingular.
  10. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Ness-Net wrote:
    > Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    > Which probably will happen.
    >
    > Welcome back Larry!!


    "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jnqpttHwy4Tl_5qi1QR6Lg9CthMgD913GC203"

    This is very good news for Alltel subscribers. Instead of 13.2 million
    mobile to mobile they'd be over 80 million MTM.

    Congratulations Larry! You're probably going to be able to keep your
    grandfathered Alltel plan, but have all the advantages of going with the
    carrier that has the best coverage in the U.S., by far.

    I'm adding the Alltel group to this.
  11. Larry

    Larry Guest

    SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:30G1k.4735$jI5.1143
    @flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com:

    > but have all the advantages of going with the
    > carrier that has the best coverage in the U.S., by far.


    "Verizon Wireless now pays hundreds of millions in roaming charges every
    year to Alltel, he estimated."

    That was quoted from your URL. Your statement doesn't quite jibe with the
    reality of the roaming....which Verizon has set to forbidden across SC in
    the DEAD ZONES. Verizon doesn't roam on Alltel anywhere around here.
    Their phones say NO SERVICE in areas where Alltel has full scale signals
    and right under the Sprint PCS towers.

    I can see one BIG deal for Verizon in SC.....Alltel has native 800 coverage
    in MYRTLE BEACH VACATIONLAND....Verizon only has a little PCS carrier they
    bought out up there and it sucks!
  12. Larry

    Larry Guest

    SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:sXF1k.4734$jI5.396
    @flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com:

    > Larry wrote:
    >> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in news:C-
    >> ydnYJl9LtLddvVnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
    >>
    >>> Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    >>> Which probably will happen.
    >>>
    >>> Welcome back Larry!!

    >>
    >> VZW can't own Alltel in Charleston........
    >>
    >> FCC Regulations against owning BOTH 800 A and B in one market.

    >
    > No such regulation anymore. AT&T has both A&B in numerous markets as a
    > result of the acquisition of the old AT&T Wireless by Cingular.
    >


    Man this all smacks of PAYOFF, doesn't it?

    Well, I'll go somewhere else if it happens. I'll NEVER stand in line at
    Verizon, again....
  13. TeddeLI

    TeddeLI Guest

    Steve Sobol explained on 6/4/2008 :
    > On 2008-06-04, Ness-Net <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
    >> Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.

    >
    > That's a shame.


    Larry being a Verizon user outweighs all other concerns :D
  14. TeddeLI

    TeddeLI Guest

    Larry wrote :
    > "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in news:C-
    > ydnYJl9LtLddvVnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
    >
    >> Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    >> Which probably will happen.
    >>
    >> Welcome back Larry!!

    >
    > Never mind URL. It's all over the place. The Jews at Goldman-Sachs are in
    > financial trouble like the rest of their kind so gotta sell off assets.
    >
    > I doubt FCC will allow it.....we'll see. FCC has the final word.
    >
    > It was nice having unlimited internet while it lasted......
    >
    > After Alltel's demise, noone will have unlimited internet service on any
    > system, here, and in most places......


    Just think about all the Jews you now can share your in minutes with.
  15. TeddeLI

    TeddeLI Guest

    Ness-Net submitted this idea :
    > Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    > Which probably will happen.
    >
    > Welcome back Larry!!


    Can just picture Larry doing a Rumplestiltskin dance and screwing
    himself into the ground. >:|
  16. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

    <snip>

    > Everyone put it on your calendar for January 1: post a BIG welcome for
    > Larry!


    Poor Larry.

    It reminds me of when I left a job because the management was just so
    horrible that I couldn't continue. I went to a new company, and within a
    year, the two worst people at the previous company were president and VP
    of the new company.
  17. On 2008-06-05, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
    > SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:30G1k.4735$jI5.1143
    > @flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com:
    >
    >> but have all the advantages of going with the
    >> carrier that has the best coverage in the U.S., by far.


    Not at my house (in Palo Alto, CA) unfortunately. Since the
    other carriers have put in new towers in recent years while
    Verizon has apparently done nothing, Verizon is now the
    worst of the lot. Incoming calls go to voice mail if I
    don't remember to leave the phone close to a window. T-Mobile,
    which used to only work inside if I took the phone upstairs, is
    now the best of them.

    > "Verizon Wireless now pays hundreds of millions in roaming charges every
    > year to Alltel, he estimated."
    >
    > That was quoted from your URL. Your statement doesn't quite jibe with the
    > reality of the roaming....which Verizon has set to forbidden across SC in
    > the DEAD ZONES. Verizon doesn't roam on Alltel anywhere around here.
    > Their phones say NO SERVICE in areas where Alltel has full scale signals
    > and right under the Sprint PCS towers.
    >
    > I can see one BIG deal for Verizon in SC.....Alltel has native 800 coverage
    > in MYRTLE BEACH VACATIONLAND....Verizon only has a little PCS carrier they
    > bought out up there and it sucks!


    Unfortunately I don't think South Carolina is the point of this.
    Verizon has spectrum there that they could build out if they
    felt like it, and everyone knows Verizon is stingy about roaming
    with their biggest competitors. Verizon's big holes are in rural
    areas in the middle of the country, however, and Alltel fills in a
    lot of those holes.

    The New York Times says Verizon will be paying for the acquisition
    with debt since Vodafone won't let them do anything which dilutes
    Vodafone's interest. That being the case I wouldn't be surprised
    if Verizon voluntarily divests themselves of overlapping licenses
    to reduce the cost of the acquisition, so you may end up with a
    choice of 800 MHz providers again when it is all over. Given the
    likely acquiree, however, I'll bet you won't like the choice any
    better than you like Verizon.

    Dennis Ferguson
  18. XS11E

    XS11E Guest

    "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:

    > Wall Street is reporting that VZW is in talks to acquire Alltel.
    > Which probably will happen.
    >
    > Welcome back Larry!!


    Welcome back Larry? You think the acquisition will help Larry out of
    my killfile?

    Nope, he's still there....




    --
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    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://improve-usenet.org
  19. Steve Sobol

    Steve Sobol Guest

    ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.verizon.]
    On 2008-06-05, Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:

    > Verizon has spectrum there that they could build out if they
    > felt like it, and everyone knows Verizon is stingy about roaming
    > with their biggest competitors. Verizon's big holes are in rural
    > areas in the middle of the country, however, and Alltel fills in a
    > lot of those holes.


    Really, it makes sense when you recall Alltel's beginnings as a rural landline
    carrier. They used to service my parents' house in Middle-of-Nowhere, Ohio,
    until they divested their landline operations (my parents are now Windstream
    customers).


    --
    Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
    Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol
  20. Larry

    Larry Guest

    Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
    news:slrng4gc3p.e53.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:

    > (my parents are now Windstream
    > customers).
    >


    Windstream is Alltel's sellphone internet provider...(c;

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