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How can I tell if EVDO service is being deployed?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Eric Rosenberry, May 31, 2004.

  1. Lately I have been seeing quite a number of new (similar looking) cell
    towers being erected around my area (Hillsboro Oregon which is part of the
    Portland metro area). I have been trying to figure out which provider might
    be doing this? Many of them appear to be power pole replacement towers
    (i.e. remove a wood pole and replace it with a new steel tower topped with a
    cell site). The coolest one is where they replaced a dual-wood-pole tower
    (for a very high voltage line) with a dual steel tower with one set of three
    antenna's on each tower. I assume that for each sector they use one antenna
    on each tower for diversity (although they are farther apart than you see on
    a typical cell tower).

    I am curious if they are part of Verizon's EVDO deployment (or does Verizon
    just upgrade gear in existing towers to deploy EVDO)?

    Other possibilities include ATT 1900mhz GSM...

    Thoughts?

    -Eric
     



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  2. Eric Rosenberry wrote:
    > Lately I have been seeing quite a number of new (similar looking)

    cell
    > towers being erected around my area (Hillsboro Oregon which is part

    of the
    > Portland metro area). I have been trying to figure out which

    provider might
    > be doing this? <edit>
    >
    > I am curious if they are part of Verizon's EVDO deployment (or does

    Verizon
    > just upgrade gear in existing towers to deploy EVDO)?
    >
    > Other possibilities include ATT 1900mhz GSM...
    >
    > Thoughts?


    Which of the national wireless carriers is conspicuously absent from
    the Portland market? And which said carrier recently purchased PCS
    spectrum from NextWave including a PCS C3 10 MHz disaggregation in the
    Portland BTA?

    The answer of course is Cingular.

    As long as the proposed merger does not entice Cingular to shelve its
    expansion plans -- as AT&TWS already has a mature GSM/GPRS 850/1900 +
    EDGE 1900 + TDMA 800 + AMPS network in Portland -- Cingular is or will
    be constructing its own GSM/GPRS 1900 system in northwest Oregon.

    VZW CDMA1xEV-DO 800 overlay is an upgrade to existing sites. Though
    some spectrum-clearing may be needed to deploy the data-only
    carrier(s), EV-DO does not require additional sites.

    AT&TWS deployed GSM/GPRS 1900 in Portland three years ago. The
    official launch for your market was late September or early October
    2001. GSM/GPRS 850 in its Cellular markets is the recent overlay for
    AT&TWS. Portland is nominally a Cellular 800/850 MHz market for
    AT&TWS. But GSM/GPRS 850 in a TDMA 800 market also does not
    necessitate additional sites.

    Andrew
    --
    Andrew Shepherd
    cinema@ku.edu
    cinema@sprintpcs.com
    http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/
     
  3. So I got curious this evening where all the towers I can hit from my house
    are located and I went out driving. As it turns out I am smack in the
    middle of about four different Verizon towers. Even though I only get
    about -94db of signal here in my place I still never have dropped calls
    (gotta love soft handoffs!).

    I also went and checked on the two towers that I have recently seen erected.
    It turns out one of them is a new VoiceStream tower http://tinyurl.com/3x2dy
    and the other is a new ATT tower (must be to plug a hole in 1900mhz service
    I am guessing).

    So I was wrong about some other provider moving into the area. Just
    existing providers doing more buildouts.

    -Eric

    "Eric Rosenberry" <erics@R3MOVErosenberry.org> wrote in message
    news:0qudnRkOE-NFSybdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
    > Lately I have been seeing quite a number of new (similar looking) cell
    > towers being erected around my area (Hillsboro Oregon which is part of the
    > Portland metro area). I have been trying to figure out which provider

    might
    > be doing this? Many of them appear to be power pole replacement towers
    > (i.e. remove a wood pole and replace it with a new steel tower topped with

    a
    > cell site). The coolest one is where they replaced a dual-wood-pole tower
    > (for a very high voltage line) with a dual steel tower with one set of

    three
    > antenna's on each tower. I assume that for each sector they use one

    antenna
    > on each tower for diversity (although they are farther apart than you see

    on
    > a typical cell tower).
    >
    > I am curious if they are part of Verizon's EVDO deployment (or does

    Verizon
    > just upgrade gear in existing towers to deploy EVDO)?
    >
    > Other possibilities include ATT 1900mhz GSM...
    >
    > Thoughts?
    >
    > -Eric
    >
    >
     
  4. Paul

    Paul Guest

    Just curious if this antenna tower mapping info is available in a searchable
    online database somewhere? I'd love to find out who/what is on the tower
    near our office complex...

    Thanks,
    Paul


    "Eric Rosenberry" <erics@R3MOVErosenberry.org> wrote in message
    news:Zq-dnWcNNKExgSHd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
    > So I got curious this evening where all the towers I can hit from my house
    > are located and I went out driving. As it turns out I am smack in the
    > middle of about four different Verizon towers. Even though I only get
    > about -94db of signal here in my place I still never have dropped calls
    > (gotta love soft handoffs!).
    >
    > I also went and checked on the two towers that I have recently seen

    erected.
    > It turns out one of them is a new VoiceStream tower

    http://tinyurl.com/3x2dy
    > and the other is a new ATT tower (must be to plug a hole in 1900mhz

    service
    > I am guessing).
    >
    > So I was wrong about some other provider moving into the area. Just
    > existing providers doing more buildouts.
    >
    > -Eric
    >
    > "Eric Rosenberry" <erics@R3MOVErosenberry.org> wrote in message
    > news:0qudnRkOE-NFSybdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
    > > Lately I have been seeing quite a number of new (similar looking) cell
    > > towers being erected around my area (Hillsboro Oregon which is part of

    the
    > > Portland metro area). I have been trying to figure out which provider

    > might
    > > be doing this? Many of them appear to be power pole replacement towers
    > > (i.e. remove a wood pole and replace it with a new steel tower topped

    with
    > a
    > > cell site). The coolest one is where they replaced a dual-wood-pole

    tower
    > > (for a very high voltage line) with a dual steel tower with one set of

    > three
    > > antenna's on each tower. I assume that for each sector they use one

    > antenna
    > > on each tower for diversity (although they are farther apart than you

    see
    > on
    > > a typical cell tower).
    > >
    > > I am curious if they are part of Verizon's EVDO deployment (or does

    > Verizon
    > > just upgrade gear in existing towers to deploy EVDO)?
    > >
    > > Other possibilities include ATT 1900mhz GSM...
    > >
    > > Thoughts?
    > >
    > > -Eric
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
  5. Well I am not 100% sure about this, but from other peoples posts apparently
    not all towers are in the FCC database.

    The way I found that specific tower in the FCC database was that the FCC
    tower ID was on a placard right out in front. I simply typed it in and it
    came up.

    Some towers I have seen have signs about who to contact in case of emergency
    that will frequently tell you whose tower it is.

    -Eric

    "Paul" <paule-nospam@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:10bpjbfmnqas593@news.supernews.com...
    > Just curious if this antenna tower mapping info is available in a

    searchable
    > online database somewhere? I'd love to find out who/what is on the tower
    > near our office complex...
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Paul
     
  6. George

    George Guest

    "Eric Rosenberry" <erics@R3MOVErosenberry.org> wrote in message
    news:MPmdndMpb9Yl8CDd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
    > Well I am not 100% sure about this, but from other peoples posts

    apparently
    > not all towers are in the FCC database.
    >
    > The way I found that specific tower in the FCC database was that the FCC
    > tower ID was on a placard right out in front. I simply typed it in and it
    > came up.
    >
    > Some towers I have seen have signs about who to contact in case of

    emergency
    > that will frequently tell you whose tower it is.


    The best is a nearby (non-VZW) tower where the ground elevation is ~ 750'.
    The sign gives lat/lon and states the tower height as:

    "200' MSL, 965' AGL"

    >
    > -Eric
    >
    > "Paul" <paule-nospam@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > news:10bpjbfmnqas593@news.supernews.com...
    > > Just curious if this antenna tower mapping info is available in a

    > searchable
    > > online database somewhere? I'd love to find out who/what is on the

    tower
    > > near our office complex...
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Paul

    >
    >
     

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