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In Network be carefull

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Jeff, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <U5NWb.6274$PY.520@newssvr26.news.prodigy.com>,
    Dr.WireMORE <Dr.WireMORE@VZW-Midwest.com> wrote:
    >I concur with Mike: If YOU are in the in-network area, and make/receive a
    >call to another Verizon subscriber (however they figure that out), then YOU
    >are taking advantage of the FREE in-network calling.
    >
    >So, what about the other person.... (Substitute "the other callers" for
    >YOU). Having some fun today, hope you don't mind.
    >
    >Net: Two verizon wireless people call each other. The person who is
    >"in-network" gets advantage of unlimited free in-network calling. The
    >person who is "not" is charged according to their coverage plan.


    It used to be that M2M was intended for when both phones were physically
    in-network, so the call would be very cheap to handle (no third-party
    carrier). It seems that with the new IN-network plan, if one VZW phone
    calls another, if one of them is currently in-network, the call is
    free for that phone, even if the other phone is currently off-network!
    Thus the need for caller-id for incoming calls, since the call may be
    coming in from off-network. It that true? So all I have to do is program
    my company PBX to generate caller-id of a VZW number, and all of the
    VZW people I call will be getting airtime-free calls??



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  2. Linsifer

    Linsifer Guest

    I'll keep my 1000 mobile to mobile minutes because it can be to any Verizon
    customer and they don't need to be IN the network. I rarely use many of those
    as it is, either.
  3. tgw

    tgw Guest

    Not true -- the legacy M2M also required you to be in the native VZW
    footprint. Check the fineprint...

    "Linsifer" <linsifer@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:20040215223832.21760.00001843@mb-m25.aol.com...
    > I'll keep my 1000 mobile to mobile minutes because it can be to any

    Verizon
    > customer and they don't need to be IN the network. I rarely use many of

    those
    > as it is, either.
  4. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:16:15 GMT, "tgw" </dev/null@spam.com> wrote:

    >Not true -- the legacy M2M also required you to be in the native VZW
    >footprint. Check the fineprint...


    As near as I understand it:

    * M2M = In-Network
    * Both are meant to bill in-network/M2M minutes if you're on the VZW
    network talking to someone else on the VZW network (and you should be
    using M2M even if they are off network, as long as you're on the VZW
    network).
    * M2M may work if you're on the Extended Network, particularly a
    provider like Alltel. I assume this is the same for "In-Network".
    This usage is not guaranteed, is not predictable and is not part of
    either M2M or "In-Network"'s plan...so if you get M2M/In-Network
    minutes while you're on Alltel, calling another VZW user, don't expect
    that to always be that way.

    As far as I know, the change from M2M to "In-Network" was in name
    only. Those who thought M2M was supposed to work (all the time) in
    Extended Network were clearly not reading their contract materials, or
    all the brochures or other wording describing M2M.

    This is yet another case of people online flying off the handle...

    Mike
  5. D.J. Osborn

    D.J. Osborn Guest

    "Mike" <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > As near as I understand it:
    >
    > * M2M = In-Network
    > * Both are meant to bill in-network/M2M minutes if you're on the VZW
    > network talking to someone else on the VZW network (and you should be
    > using M2M even if they are off network, as long as you're on the VZW
    > network).


    Correct, as I understand it.

    > * M2M may work if you're on the Extended Network, particularly a
    > provider like Alltel. I assume this is the same for "In-Network".
    > This usage is not guaranteed, is not predictable and is not part of
    > either M2M or "In-Network"'s plan...so if you get M2M/In-Network
    > minutes while you're on Alltel, calling another VZW user, don't expect
    > that to always be that way.


    Correct, as I understand it.

    > As far as I know, the change from M2M to "In-Network" was in name
    > only. Those who thought M2M was supposed to work (all the time) in
    > Extended Network were clearly not reading their contract materials, or
    > all the brochures or other wording describing M2M.


    Correct, as I understand it.

    > This is yet another case of people online flying off the handle...


    Correct, as I understand it.

    --
    D.J., N8DO; FMCA 147762
    davidjosborn at sbcglobal dot net
  6. Richard

    Richard Guest

    I thought that the difference between M2M and In Network was that M2M only
    works when calling someone else on the same family plan and In Network
    works when calling any Verizon phone. So In Network would a be better deal.
    Is this correct?


    "Mike" <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:mrq1309pi1k79k4c2eetigs6g43rgq46jv@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:16:15 GMT, "tgw" </dev/null@spam.com> wrote:
    >
    > >Not true -- the legacy M2M also required you to be in the native VZW
    > >footprint. Check the fineprint...

    >
    > As near as I understand it:
    >
    > * M2M = In-Network
    > * Both are meant to bill in-network/M2M minutes if you're on the VZW
    > network talking to someone else on the VZW network (and you should be
    > using M2M even if they are off network, as long as you're on the VZW
    > network).
    > * M2M may work if you're on the Extended Network, particularly a
    > provider like Alltel. I assume this is the same for "In-Network".
    > This usage is not guaranteed, is not predictable and is not part of
    > either M2M or "In-Network"'s plan...so if you get M2M/In-Network
    > minutes while you're on Alltel, calling another VZW user, don't expect
    > that to always be that way.
    >
    > As far as I know, the change from M2M to "In-Network" was in name
    > only. Those who thought M2M was supposed to work (all the time) in
    > Extended Network were clearly not reading their contract materials, or
    > all the brochures or other wording describing M2M.
    >
    > This is yet another case of people online flying off the handle...
    >
    > Mike
  7. beavis

    beavis Guest

    In article <yb6Yb.12876$cE3.22464760@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Richard
    <rick@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > I thought that the difference between M2M and In Network was that M2M only
    > works when calling someone else on the same family plan and In Network
    > works when calling any Verizon phone. So In Network would a be better deal.
    > Is this correct?


    No, that's not correct. I can use my M2M minutes to call any VZW
    customer, not just between people on a family plan.
  8. beavis <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    > In article <yb6Yb.12876$cE3.22464760@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Richard
    > <rick@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> I thought that the difference between M2M and In Network was that M2M only
    >> works when calling someone else on the same family plan and In Network
    >> works when calling any Verizon phone. So In Network would a be better deal.
    >> Is this correct?

    >
    > No, that's not correct. I can use my M2M minutes to call any VZW
    > customer, not just between people on a family plan.


    Richard is thinking of the other M2M package where you have unlimited airtime-
    free calling between the phones on your plan.

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  9. Scott Nelson

    Scott Nelson Guest

    The "In-network" plan-people have to not be roaming either when the call
    happens, correct?

    Let's say I am on an AC plan and I am roaming, in say Maine, ( My roaming
    indicator is solid on ),
    would the other person get the "in-network"credit? Would I?

    Scotty


    "beavis" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    news:160220041221172787%nobody@nowhere.com...
    > In article <yb6Yb.12876$cE3.22464760@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Richard
    > <rick@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > I thought that the difference between M2M and In Network was that M2M

    only
    > > works when calling someone else on the same family plan and In Network
    > > works when calling any Verizon phone. So In Network would a be better

    deal.
    > > Is this correct?

    >
    > No, that's not correct. I can use my M2M minutes to call any VZW
    > customer, not just between people on a family plan.

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