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Internet access

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Arcy, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    I am on the road most of the time and need to have internet/email access
    that's reliable. So, I'm thinking of getting a tri-mode phone (LG VX4400 or
    T730 or V120e) with the Mobile Office Kit and the plan would be America's
    Choice.

    My question is: will I be able to get on the 'net in both analog and digital
    mode even if I don't subscribe to the Express Network Plan?

    Reason I'm asking it in this forum is because on the phone, on two different
    occasions, I have got two different answers from the reps - yes and no (both
    with a lot of techie talk that meant nothing to me).

    TIA,
    Arcy
     



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  2. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:usSdneW0QuCB4R6iU-KYhw@comcast.com...
    > I am on the road most of the time and need to have internet/email access
    > that's reliable. So, I'm thinking of getting a tri-mode phone (LG VX4400

    or
    > T730 or V120e) with the Mobile Office Kit and the plan would be America's
    > Choice.
    >
    > My question is: will I be able to get on the 'net in both analog and

    digital
    > mode even if I don't subscribe to the Express Network Plan?
    >
    > Reason I'm asking it in this forum is because on the phone, on two

    different
    > occasions, I have got two different answers from the reps - yes and no

    (both
    > with a lot of techie talk that meant nothing to me).
    >
    > TIA,
    > Arcy
    >
    >


    Do you want reliable email on the road very simply, or do you want internet
    surfing access, and an expensive way of doing things?.

    If email only while traveling, I prefer very simple email access on the
    road, and internet surfing when in one place (I travel full time in my RV
    and have been on the road for 6 years). To keep in touch with friends and
    family, I use the pocketmail device (http://www.pocketmail.com) works with
    any phone (even my cell phone), fits in a pocket, has a built in acoustic
    modem, call an 800 number, hold it up to a phone, press a button and send
    and receive email. Device costs 99 bucks, 1 year service 120. Have a
    cellphone/laptop/mobile office, haven't bothered using it for email for
    several years (just when in one place for surfing).
     
  3. Bill Radio

    Bill Radio Guest

    Arcy,
    I have not been able to access the internet with Mobile Office while on an
    analog carrier. Since the service only works while on the Verizon network,
    and that network is now 100% digital, there are very few places it won't
    work.

    If you need access away from wirelines, and you're outside the city, I can't
    think of any other access that would work, anyway. So, I believe Verizon's
    M/O (and E/N) is the most reliable and accessable of them all, as long as
    you're within their coverage:

    http://images.verizonwireless.com/images/maps/express_network/national.gif

    -Bill Radio
    Western U.S. Wireless Reviews at:
    http://www.MountainWireless.com



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.cellular.verizon
    Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:54 PM
    Subject: Internet access


    > I am on the road most of the time and need to have internet/email access
    > that's reliable. So, I'm thinking of getting a tri-mode phone (LG VX4400

    or
    > T730 or V120e) with the Mobile Office Kit and the plan would be America's
    > Choice.
    >
    > My question is: will I be able to get on the 'net in both analog and

    digital
    > mode even if I don't subscribe to the Express Network Plan?
    >
    > Reason I'm asking it in this forum is because on the phone, on two

    different
    > occasions, I have got two different answers from the reps - yes and no

    (both
    > with a lot of techie talk that meant nothing to me).
     
  4. David L

    David L Guest

    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in article
    <usSdneW0QuCB4R6iU-KYhw@comcast.com>:
    > I am on the road most of the time and need to have internet/email access
    > that's reliable. So, I'm thinking of getting a tri-mode phone (LG VX4400 or
    > T730 or V120e) with the Mobile Office Kit and the plan would be America's
    > Choice.
    >
    > My question is: will I be able to get on the 'net in both analog and digital
    > mode even if I don't subscribe to the Express Network Plan?
    >
    > Reason I'm asking it in this forum is because on the phone, on two different
    > occasions, I have got two different answers from the reps - yes and no (both
    > with a lot of techie talk that meant nothing to me).
    >
    > TIA,
    > Arcy
    >
    >


    You need to be in a digital area to use the wireless web. Express
    network (1x) is further limited to only some digital coverage areas.

    Verizon should have a map.

    Folks use to use a special setup for a slow internet dial up connection
    in analog areas with a laptop/pc. Not sure how to set this up with
    modern phones.

    -
    David


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
     
  5. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    <davNOLindiSpamatHotmaledotkom (David L)> wrote in message
    news:vo7b6r2rq49984@corp.supernews.com...
    >
    >
    >
    > "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in article
    > <usSdneW0QuCB4R6iU-KYhw@comcast.com>:
    > > I am on the road most of the time and need to have internet/email access
    > > that's reliable. So, I'm thinking of getting a tri-mode phone (LG VX4400

    or
    > > T730 or V120e) with the Mobile Office Kit and the plan would be

    America's
    > > Choice.
    > >
    > > My question is: will I be able to get on the 'net in both analog and

    digital
    > > mode even if I don't subscribe to the Express Network Plan?
    > >
    > > Reason I'm asking it in this forum is because on the phone, on two

    different
    > > occasions, I have got two different answers from the reps - yes and no

    (both
    > > with a lot of techie talk that meant nothing to me).
    > >
    > > TIA,
    > > Arcy
    > >
    > >

    >
    > You need to be in a digital area to use the wireless web. Express
    > network (1x) is further limited to only some digital coverage areas.
    >
    > Verizon should have a map.
    >
    > Folks use to use a special setup for a slow internet dial up connection
    > in analog areas with a laptop/pc. Not sure how to set this up with
    > modern phones.
    >
    > -
    > David
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]




    If you need access when in an analog area, check out the king of clubs (or
    king of hearts if you need a landline modem too) at
    http://www.ositech.com/CellData/WirelessCellData.htm .
     
  6. Al

    Al Guest

    How often are you actually in an Analog only area? Unless you spend a lot of
    time in the "outback", probably very rare.

    Without Express Network you will still be able to access the web, just your
    speed will be about 14.4 kbps using Quick-2-Net service instead of 144 kbps.
    Probably enough to check emails if you don't have a stack of attachments to
    download. Use an email client that allows you to view headers without
    downloading the message first, or use web based email review and you should
    be fine. I use Quick-2-Net a lot.

    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:usSdneW0QuCB4R6iU-KYhw@comcast.com...
    > I am on the road most of the time and need to have internet/email access
    > that's reliable. So, I'm thinking of getting a tri-mode phone (LG VX4400

    or
    > T730 or V120e) with the Mobile Office Kit and the plan would be America's
    > Choice.
    >
    > My question is: will I be able to get on the 'net in both analog and

    digital
    > mode even if I don't subscribe to the Express Network Plan?
    >
    > Reason I'm asking it in this forum is because on the phone, on two

    different
    > occasions, I have got two different answers from the reps - yes and no

    (both
    > with a lot of techie talk that meant nothing to me).
    >
    > TIA,
    > Arcy
    >
    >
     

  7. >> "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in article
    >> <usSdneW0QuCB4R6iU-KYhw@comcast.com>:
    >> > I am on the road most of the time and need to have internet/email access
    >> > that's reliable. So, I'm thinking of getting a tri-mode phone (LG VX4400
    >> >or T730 or V120e) with the Mobile Office Kit and the plan would be
    >> > America's Choice.
    >> >
    >> > My question is: will I be able to get on the 'net in both analog and
    >> > digital mode even if I don't subscribe to the Express Network Plan?


    No data in analog country without spendy adapter which will not work with
    most phones (see bottom).

    >> > Reason I'm asking it in this forum is because on the phone, on two
    >> >different occasions, I have got two different answers from the reps - yes and no
    >> > (both with a lot of techie talk that meant nothing to me).


    Ask if you can get 2G data service while in a CDMAOne area where Express
    Network is not available. Write down the questions and answers, and we can
    advise how well informed the rep is.

    ><davNOLindiSpamatHotmaledotkom (David L)> wrote in message
    >news:vo7b6r2rq49984@corp.supernews.com...
    >> You need to be in a digital area to use the wireless web. Express
    >> network (1x) is further limited to only some digital coverage areas.


    Absolutely right on both counts.

    >> Verizon should have a map.
    >>
    >> Folks use to use a special setup for a slow internet dial up connection
    >> in analog areas with a laptop/pc. Not sure how to set this up with
    >> modern phones.


    On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:55:58 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    >If you need access when in an analog area, check out the king of clubs (or
    >king of hearts if you need a landline modem too) at
    >http://www.ositech.com/CellData/WirelessCellData.htm .


    Well, it only works on a very few phones.
    --
    Nobody but a fool goes into a federal counterrorism operation without duct tape - Richard Preston, THE COBRA EVENT.
     
  8. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    Peter Pan,

    I need internet access every day and I have a lot of emails coming in. I
    have heard of the pocketmail but don't think I would like it.

    Arcy

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bm01k0$go9oe$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
    >
    > Do you want reliable email on the road very simply, or do you want

    internet
    > surfing access, and an expensive way of doing things?.
    >
    > If email only while traveling, I prefer very simple email access on the
    > road, and internet surfing when in one place (I travel full time in my RV
    > and have been on the road for 6 years). To keep in touch with friends and
    > family, I use the pocketmail device (http://www.pocketmail.com) works with
    > any phone (even my cell phone), fits in a pocket, has a built in acoustic
    > modem, call an 800 number, hold it up to a phone, press a button and send
    > and receive email. Device costs 99 bucks, 1 year service 120. Have a
    > cellphone/laptop/mobile office, haven't bothered using it for email for
    > several years (just when in one place for surfing).
    >
    >
    >
     
  9. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    Peter Pan,

    I have heard of the Ositech Cellflex technology. Now my question is: with
    the Ositech King of Clubs card will I be able to access the 'net in both
    analog and digital mode *without* subscribing to the Express Network Plan?
    My purpose here is to avoid having to pay $80 for Express Network. I'd like
    to use America's Choice instead because AC gives me the capability of a
    phone - AC is only $40 per month.

    Arcy

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bm0fuc$gshgc$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
    >
    > If you need access when in an analog area, check out the king of clubs (or
    > king of hearts if you need a landline modem too) at
    > http://www.ositech.com/CellData/WirelessCellData.htm .
    >
    >
    >
     
  10. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    <yeltrabnhoj@email.com> wrote in message
    news:3f843d04.3242796@news.individual.de...
    >
    > No data in analog country without spendy adapter which will not work with
    > most phones (see bottom).

    [snip]

    > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:55:58 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >If you need access when in an analog area, check out the king of clubs

    (or
    > >king of hearts if you need a landline modem too) at
    > >http://www.ositech.com/CellData/WirelessCellData.htm .

    >
    > Well, it only works on a very few phones.


    It works on the Motorola T730 and the Motorola v120e - two out of three
    phones that I am considering getting.

    Arcy
     
  11. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    >Al" <you@dont.need.it> wrote in message
    news:DPVgb.2474$av5.747@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > How often are you actually in an Analog only area? Unless you spend a lot

    of
    > time in the "outback", probably very rare.


    Al, Some of the time I will be in the Outback, probably a little too far
    away from the major cities and Interstates to be able to get consistent
    digital service.

    > Without Express Network you will still be able to access the web, just

    your
    > speed will be about 14.4 kbps using Quick-2-Net service instead of 144

    kbps.
    > Probably enough to check emails if you don't have a stack of attachments

    to
    > download. Use an email client that allows you to view headers without
    > downloading the message first, or use web based email review and you

    should
    > be fine. I use Quick-2-Net a lot.


    It seems there is some extra charge for roaming and/or long distance when
    one uses Quick-2-Net - I forget what plan it is. The website isn't all that
    clear on that. If you are *not* getting charged for your Quick-2-Net, what
    plan are you using if you don't mind my asking?

    Arcy
     
  12. Al

    Al Guest

    I am on America's Choice with unlimited night/weekend service. My use of
    Quick-2-net shows up just like any other call, and uses minutes just like a
    voice call. I mostly use it at night during my unlimited usage time.

    It probably won't work when you are roaming.

    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:v5ednRQ58utr1BmiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
    > >Al" <you@dont.need.it> wrote in message

    > news:DPVgb.2474$av5.747@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > How often are you actually in an Analog only area? Unless you spend a

    lot
    > of
    > > time in the "outback", probably very rare.

    >
    > Al, Some of the time I will be in the Outback, probably a little too far
    > away from the major cities and Interstates to be able to get consistent
    > digital service.
    >
    > > Without Express Network you will still be able to access the web, just

    > your
    > > speed will be about 14.4 kbps using Quick-2-Net service instead of 144

    > kbps.
    > > Probably enough to check emails if you don't have a stack of attachments

    > to
    > > download. Use an email client that allows you to view headers without
    > > downloading the message first, or use web based email review and you

    > should
    > > be fine. I use Quick-2-Net a lot.

    >
    > It seems there is some extra charge for roaming and/or long distance when
    > one uses Quick-2-Net - I forget what plan it is. The website isn't all

    that
    > clear on that. If you are *not* getting charged for your Quick-2-Net, what
    > plan are you using if you don't mind my asking?
    >
    > Arcy
    >
    >
     
  13. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    (Apologies to the group - I would email this privately to Al but can't find
    his email address.)

    "Al" <you@dont.need.it> wrote in message
    news:eek:RZgb.3284$dn6.1141@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > I am on America's Choice with unlimited night/weekend service. My use of
    > Quick-2-net shows up just like any other call, and uses minutes just like

    a
    > voice call. I mostly use it at night during my unlimited usage time.


    That's when I intend to use it most. During the weekdays, I want the phone
    mostly for voice calls and a plan with 300-400 minutes included would do
    just fine - and that is the America's Choice.

    > It probably won't work when you are roaming.


    Perhaps it would work when roaming but that's when they would charge me
    extra?

    Thanks Al for answering these questions. What cellphone are you using? And
    do you use the Ositech card?

    Arcy
     
  14. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    <yeltrabnhoj@email.com> wrote in message
    news:3f843d04.3242796@news.individual.de...
    >
    > >> "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in article
    > >> <usSdneW0QuCB4R6iU-KYhw@comcast.com>:
    > >> > I am on the road most of the time and need to have internet/email

    access
    > >> > that's reliable. So, I'm thinking of getting a tri-mode phone (LG

    VX4400
    > >> >or T730 or V120e) with the Mobile Office Kit and the plan would be
    > >> > America's Choice.
    > >> >
    > >> > My question is: will I be able to get on the 'net in both analog and
    > >> > digital mode even if I don't subscribe to the Express Network Plan?

    >
    > No data in analog country without spendy adapter which will not work with
    > most phones (see bottom).
    >
    > >> > Reason I'm asking it in this forum is because on the phone, on two
    > >> >different occasions, I have got two different answers from the reps -

    yes and no
    > >> > (both with a lot of techie talk that meant nothing to me).

    >
    > Ask if you can get 2G data service while in a CDMAOne area where Express
    > Network is not available. Write down the questions and answers, and we can
    > advise how well informed the rep is.
    >
    > ><davNOLindiSpamatHotmaledotkom (David L)> wrote in message
    > >news:vo7b6r2rq49984@corp.supernews.com...
    > >> You need to be in a digital area to use the wireless web. Express
    > >> network (1x) is further limited to only some digital coverage areas.

    >
    > Absolutely right on both counts.
    >
    > >> Verizon should have a map.
    > >>
    > >> Folks use to use a special setup for a slow internet dial up connection
    > >> in analog areas with a laptop/pc. Not sure how to set this up with
    > >> modern phones.

    >
    > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:55:58 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >If you need access when in an analog area, check out the king of clubs

    (or
    > >king of hearts if you need a landline modem too) at
    > >http://www.ositech.com/CellData/WirelessCellData.htm .

    >
    > Well, it only works on a very few phones.
    > --
    > Nobody but a fool goes into a federal counterrorism operation without duct

    tape - Richard Preston, THE COBRA EVENT.


    I'm curious what your definition of "very few" is. I've been rv'ng full time
    for 6 years and there are hundreds of people using it now, and there are
    whole forums full of people that not only recommend it, but use it every
    day. I guess all the people that have it and have used it were real lucky to
    find one of those "very few" phones eh? :)
     
  15. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    You are probably right, I only get about 50 to 75 emails a day, I'm sure it
    would be a hassle if you get a lot more than that. (I did mention I lived
    and traveled for 6 years didn't I? Well I also run a business while
    traveling, and all the stuff sent to me at work is forwarded to me at
    pocketmail, hence lots of email).


    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:jnednVXu9sx72xmiXTWJlg@comcast.com...
    > Peter Pan,
    >
    > I need internet access every day and I have a lot of emails coming in. I
    > have heard of the pocketmail but don't think I would like it.
    >
    > Arcy
    >
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:bm01k0$go9oe$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > >
    > > Do you want reliable email on the road very simply, or do you want

    > internet
    > > surfing access, and an expensive way of doing things?.
    > >
    > > If email only while traveling, I prefer very simple email access on the
    > > road, and internet surfing when in one place (I travel full time in my

    RV
    > > and have been on the road for 6 years). To keep in touch with friends

    and
    > > family, I use the pocketmail device (http://www.pocketmail.com) works

    with
    > > any phone (even my cell phone), fits in a pocket, has a built in

    acoustic
    > > modem, call an 800 number, hold it up to a phone, press a button and

    send
    > > and receive email. Device costs 99 bucks, 1 year service 120. Have a
    > > cellphone/laptop/mobile office, haven't bothered using it for email for
    > > several years (just when in one place for surfing).
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
  16. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    First of all, the express network has been renamed as of a few days ago (Now
    it's called the NationalAccess plan), and you DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO
    EXPRESS FOR $80 A MONTH TO USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Look under plans, there are TWO (2) plans, one called NationalAccess and the
    other called UNLIMITED NationalAccess.
    The first plan lets you use your plan minutes for voice/qwk2net/Old Express
    (now NationalAccess), the second is $80 and has no voice minutes included.

    Go to http://www.verizonwireless.com then click on "Plans", click on
    "Internet/Data Plans", enter your zipcode, then read what is says for
    yourself rather than believe what people here say.

    The Ositech card is only needed if your trip will take you into analog areas
    (digital signals are just passed thru), and/or you don't have a modem built
    in to your pc to be able to use landlines.

    Here is a paste of a section of my verizon bill (personal data deleted):
    Current Plan - 043683 AMERICA'S CHOICE 400 PEAK UNL N&W 1000 MTM
    $39.99 2Y 0902
    Monthly
    Access Monthly
    Allowance Minutes Additional
    Per Minute Charge
    39.99 400 general .45 peak .45 off-peak
    Active Additional Services:
    Call Delivery - Voice Mail - IQ Service Package - CDMA Digital W/Txt
    Msg - CallerID - Message Waiting
    Ind - Txt Messaging: Off - New Every Two - Nat Mob to Mob -1000 Mins -
    Express Network


    Your Promotional Details Start Date
    Unlimited Night & Weekend Minute Allowance Per Month - 2yr Contract
    08/20/03

    <End Paste>

    Notice the last active additional service "- Express Network", notice the
    monthly access cost.

    I can use my plan minutes for BOTH voice or data, the Ositech just allows me
    to also use it for data in Analog areas. (without it you have to be in a
    digital area)

    For those wondering, yes, I can use my unlimited minutes after 9 and on
    weekend for DATA! I Take a nap then stay up till midnight surfing.




    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:TkydnTEkFqQh2hmiXTWJiw@comcast.com...
    > Peter Pan,
    >
    > I have heard of the Ositech Cellflex technology. Now my question is: with
    > the Ositech King of Clubs card will I be able to access the 'net in both
    > analog and digital mode *without* subscribing to the Express Network Plan?
    > My purpose here is to avoid having to pay $80 for Express Network. I'd

    like
    > to use America's Choice instead because AC gives me the capability of a
    > phone - AC is only $40 per month.
    >
    > Arcy
    >
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:bm0fuc$gshgc$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > >
    > > If you need access when in an analog area, check out the king of clubs

    (or
    > > king of hearts if you need a landline modem too) at
    > > http://www.ositech.com/CellData/WirelessCellData.htm .
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
  17. Dapper Dave

    Dapper Dave Guest

    >"Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >Now my question is: with
    >the Ositech King of Clubs card will I be able to access the 'net in both
    >analog and digital mode *without* subscribing to the Express Network Plan?


    Yes.
     
  18. alpha©

    alpha© Guest

    On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:37:40 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:

    >First of all, the express network has been renamed as of a few days ago (Now
    >it's called the NationalAccess plan), and you DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO
    >EXPRESS FOR $80 A MONTH TO USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >
    >Look under plans, there are TWO (2) plans, one called NationalAccess and the
    >other called UNLIMITED NationalAccess.
    >The first plan lets you use your plan minutes for voice/qwk2net/Old Express
    >(now NationalAccess), the second is $80 and has no voice minutes included.
    >
    >Go to http://www.verizonwireless.com then click on "Plans", click on
    >"Internet/Data Plans", enter your zipcode, then read what is says for
    >yourself rather than believe what people here say.
    >
    >The Ositech card is only needed if your trip will take you into analog areas
    >(digital signals are just passed thru), and/or you don't have a modem built
    >in to your pc to be able to use landlines.
    >
    >Here is a paste of a section of my verizon bill (personal data deleted):
    > Current Plan - 043683 AMERICA'S CHOICE 400 PEAK UNL N&W 1000 MTM
    >$39.99 2Y 0902
    > Monthly
    > Access Monthly
    > Allowance Minutes Additional
    > Per Minute Charge
    > 39.99 400 general .45 peak .45 off-peak
    > Active Additional Services:
    > Call Delivery - Voice Mail - IQ Service Package - CDMA Digital W/Txt
    >Msg - CallerID - Message Waiting
    > Ind - Txt Messaging: Off - New Every Two - Nat Mob to Mob -1000 Mins -
    >Express Network
    >
    >
    > Your Promotional Details Start Date
    > Unlimited Night & Weekend Minute Allowance Per Month - 2yr Contract
    >08/20/03
    >
    ><End Paste>
    >
    >Notice the last active additional service "- Express Network", notice the
    >monthly access cost.
    >
    >I can use my plan minutes for BOTH voice or data, the Ositech just allows me
    >to also use it for data in Analog areas. (without it you have to be in a
    >digital area)
    >
    >For those wondering, yes, I can use my unlimited minutes after 9 and on
    >weekend for DATA! I Take a nap then stay up till midnight surfing.
    ><SNIP>

    Sorry I did a typo... Should have read 20mb instead of 2mb.
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    bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
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    alpha© Guest

    On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:37:40 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:

    >First of all, the express network has been renamed as of a few days ago (Now
    >it's called the NationalAccess plan), and you DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO
    >EXPRESS FOR $80 A MONTH TO USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >
    >Look under plans, there are TWO (2) plans, one called NationalAccess and the
    >other called UNLIMITED NationalAccess.
    >The first plan lets you use your plan minutes for voice/qwk2net/Old Express
    >(now NationalAccess), the second is $80 and has no voice minutes included.
    >
    >Go to http://www.verizonwireless.com then click on "Plans", click on
    >"Internet/Data Plans", enter your zipcode, then read what is says for
    >yourself rather than believe what people here say.
    >
    >The Ositech card is only needed if your trip will take you into analog areas
    >(digital signals are just passed thru), and/or you don't have a modem built
    >in to your pc to be able to use landlines.
    >
    >Here is a paste of a section of my verizon bill (personal data deleted):
    > Current Plan - 043683 AMERICA'S CHOICE 400 PEAK UNL N&W 1000 MTM
    >$39.99 2Y 0902
    > Monthly
    > Access Monthly
    > Allowance Minutes Additional
    > Per Minute Charge
    > 39.99 400 general .45 peak .45 off-peak
    > Active Additional Services:
    > Call Delivery - Voice Mail - IQ Service Package - CDMA Digital W/Txt
    >Msg - CallerID - Message Waiting
    > Ind - Txt Messaging: Off - New Every Two - Nat Mob to Mob -1000 Mins -
    >Express Network
    >
    >
    > Your Promotional Details Start Date
    > Unlimited Night & Weekend Minute Allowance Per Month - 2yr Contract
    >08/20/03
    >
    ><End Paste>
    >
    >Notice the last active additional service "- Express Network", notice the
    >monthly access cost.
    >
    >I can use my plan minutes for BOTH voice or data, the Ositech just allows me
    >to also use it for data in Analog areas. (without it you have to be in a
    >digital area)
    >
    >For those wondering, yes, I can use my unlimited minutes after 9 and on
    >weekend for DATA! I Take a nap then stay up till midnight surfing.<SNIP>

    According to Verizon your allowed only 2mb and it's $0.69 per min
    thereafter. I would like to get this plan but 2mb is not enough,
    PLEASE comment.
    TIA
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  20. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "alpha©" <alpha©@pitpuppy©.org> wrote in message
    news:7e5bovoqckq5qp3ft1ifloj2e1861n9gbm@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:37:40 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >First of all, the express network has been renamed as of a few days ago

    (Now
    > >it's called the NationalAccess plan), and you DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO
    > >EXPRESS FOR $80 A MONTH TO USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    > >
    > >Look under plans, there are TWO (2) plans, one called NationalAccess and

    the
    > >other called UNLIMITED NationalAccess.
    > >The first plan lets you use your plan minutes for voice/qwk2net/Old

    Express
    > >(now NationalAccess), the second is $80 and has no voice minutes

    included.
    > >
    > >Go to http://www.verizonwireless.com then click on "Plans", click on
    > >"Internet/Data Plans", enter your zipcode, then read what is says for
    > >yourself rather than believe what people here say.
    > >
    > >The Ositech card is only needed if your trip will take you into analog

    areas
    > >(digital signals are just passed thru), and/or you don't have a modem

    built
    > >in to your pc to be able to use landlines.
    > >
    > >Here is a paste of a section of my verizon bill (personal data deleted):
    > > Current Plan - 043683 AMERICA'S CHOICE 400 PEAK UNL N&W 1000 MTM
    > >$39.99 2Y 0902
    > > Monthly
    > > Access Monthly
    > > Allowance Minutes Additional
    > > Per Minute Charge
    > > 39.99 400 general .45 peak .45 off-peak
    > > Active Additional Services:
    > > Call Delivery - Voice Mail - IQ Service Package - CDMA Digital

    W/Txt
    > >Msg - CallerID - Message Waiting
    > > Ind - Txt Messaging: Off - New Every Two - Nat Mob to Mob -1000

    Mins -
    > >Express Network
    > >
    > >
    > > Your Promotional Details Start Date
    > > Unlimited Night & Weekend Minute Allowance Per Month - 2yr Contract
    > >08/20/03
    > >
    > ><End Paste>
    > >
    > >Notice the last active additional service "- Express Network", notice the
    > >monthly access cost.
    > >
    > >I can use my plan minutes for BOTH voice or data, the Ositech just allows

    me
    > >to also use it for data in Analog areas. (without it you have to be in a
    > >digital area)
    > >
    > >For those wondering, yes, I can use my unlimited minutes after 9 and on
    > >weekend for DATA! I Take a nap then stay up till midnight surfing.<SNIP>

    > According to Verizon your allowed only 2mb and it's $0.69 per min
    > thereafter. I would like to get this plan but 2mb is not enough,
    > PLEASE comment.
    > TIA
    > --
    > Arf Arf!
    > Visit http://www.pitpuppy.org
    >
    >
    >
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    Go to the link provided and actually read the plan, your question is about
    THE EXPRESS MEGABYTE PLAN and NOT!!!!!! the express (now NationalAccess
    plan).


    Rather than clog up this NG with useless stuff, there are actually 3 plans
    listed under internet/data not just two, but the other one is immaterial to
    this discussion!

    For those that don't want to follow the links, heres the info:
    <START PASTE>
    Choose from our range calling plans

    NationalAccess Calling Plans
    If you spend an average amount of time on your wireless phone and the
    Internet, these plans offer good value. Starting at just $35 per month, you
    get an airtime allowance that can be used for both wireless Internet access
    and domestic calling. There are no domestic long distance or domestic
    roaming charges coast to coast.
    Details

    Unlimited NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess Calling Plan
    If you use the wireless Internet for hours at a time, this fixed-rate
    plan offers great value. For just $79.99 a month, you get unlimited
    NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess for your wireless data needs.
    Details

    NationalAccess Megabyte Calling Plans
    These plans charge by the amount of data you use and are ideal if your
    usage is relatively constant each month. Megabyte allowances start at 20 MB
    for just $39.99 monthly access.
    Details
    <END PASTE>

    see there are three plans, and you asked about the second, now you ask
    about the third, and I keep telling people IT IS THE FIRST ONE!!!!!!!!

    Can I suggest you just follow the links and actually see that there
    are 3 plans?



    Marc

    (Sorry if I sound annoyed, I went through this with the Verizon person who
    swore that there was no such thing even though I printed out the page from
    verizons own website!, and then his boss swore there also was no such plan..
    I finally had to call the national CS people, and they knew all about it and
    added it no problem)

    I hate to be skeptical, but lets face it, my theory is that the saledrones
    don't make a commision on this plan , ergo they refuse to know anything
    about it and try and get people to go with something they can make money on.
    <--- That's my opinion, but in fairness I should say I hate saledroids.
     

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