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Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Arcy, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. alpha©

    alpha© Guest

    On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:58:58 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:

    >
    >"alpha©" <alpha©@pitpuppy©.org> wrote in message
    >news:7e5bovoqckq5qp3ft1ifloj2e1861n9gbm@4ax.com...
    >> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:37:40 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    >> <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> >First of all, the express network has been renamed as of a few days ago

    >(Now
    >> >it's called the NationalAccess plan), and you DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO
    >> >EXPRESS FOR $80 A MONTH TO USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >> >
    >> >Look under plans, there are TWO (2) plans, one called NationalAccess and

    >the
    >> >other called UNLIMITED NationalAccess.
    >> >The first plan lets you use your plan minutes for voice/qwk2net/Old

    >Express
    >> >(now NationalAccess), the second is $80 and has no voice minutes

    >included.
    >> >
    >> >Go to http://www.verizonwireless.com then click on "Plans", click on
    >> >"Internet/Data Plans", enter your zipcode, then read what is says for
    >> >yourself rather than believe what people here say.
    >> >
    >> >The Ositech card is only needed if your trip will take you into analog

    >areas
    >> >(digital signals are just passed thru), and/or you don't have a modem

    >built
    >> >in to your pc to be able to use landlines.
    >> >
    >> >Here is a paste of a section of my verizon bill (personal data deleted):
    >> > Current Plan - 043683 AMERICA'S CHOICE 400 PEAK UNL N&W 1000 MTM
    >> >$39.99 2Y 0902
    >> > Monthly
    >> > Access Monthly
    >> > Allowance Minutes Additional
    >> > Per Minute Charge
    >> > 39.99 400 general .45 peak .45 off-peak
    >> > Active Additional Services:
    >> > Call Delivery - Voice Mail - IQ Service Package - CDMA Digital

    >W/Txt
    >> >Msg - CallerID - Message Waiting
    >> > Ind - Txt Messaging: Off - New Every Two - Nat Mob to Mob -1000

    >Mins -
    >> >Express Network
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Your Promotional Details Start Date
    >> > Unlimited Night & Weekend Minute Allowance Per Month - 2yr Contract
    >> >08/20/03
    >> >
    >> ><End Paste>
    >> >
    >> >Notice the last active additional service "- Express Network", notice the
    >> >monthly access cost.
    >> >
    >> >I can use my plan minutes for BOTH voice or data, the Ositech just allows

    >me
    >> >to also use it for data in Analog areas. (without it you have to be in a
    >> >digital area)
    >> >
    >> >For those wondering, yes, I can use my unlimited minutes after 9 and on
    >> >weekend for DATA! I Take a nap then stay up till midnight surfing.<SNIP>

    >> According to Verizon your allowed only 2mb and it's $0.69 per min
    >> thereafter. I would like to get this plan but 2mb is not enough,
    >> PLEASE comment.
    >> TIA
    >> --
    >> Arf Arf!
    >> Visit http://www.pitpuppy.org
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Email: Remove the ©

    >
    >Go to the link provided and actually read the plan, your question is about
    >THE EXPRESS MEGABYTE PLAN and NOT!!!!!! the express (now NationalAccess
    >plan).
    >
    >
    >Rather than clog up this NG with useless stuff, there are actually 3 plans
    >listed under internet/data not just two, but the other one is immaterial to
    >this discussion!
    >
    >For those that don't want to follow the links, heres the info:
    ><START PASTE>
    > Choose from our range calling plans
    >
    > NationalAccess Calling Plans
    > If you spend an average amount of time on your wireless phone and the
    >Internet, these plans offer good value. Starting at just $35 per month, you
    >get an airtime allowance that can be used for both wireless Internet access
    >and domestic calling. There are no domestic long distance or domestic
    >roaming charges coast to coast.
    > Details
    >
    > Unlimited NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess Calling Plan
    > If you use the wireless Internet for hours at a time, this fixed-rate
    >plan offers great value. For just $79.99 a month, you get unlimited
    >NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess for your wireless data needs.
    > Details
    >
    > NationalAccess Megabyte Calling Plans
    > These plans charge by the amount of data you use and are ideal if your
    >usage is relatively constant each month. Megabyte allowances start at 20 MB
    >for just $39.99 monthly access.
    > Details
    > <END PASTE>
    >
    > see there are three plans, and you asked about the second, now you ask
    >about the third, and I keep telling people IT IS THE FIRST ONE!!!!!!!!
    >
    > Can I suggest you just follow the links and actually see that there
    >are 3 plans?
    >
    >
    >
    >Marc
    >
    >(Sorry if I sound annoyed, I went through this with the Verizon person who
    >swore that there was no such thing even though I printed out the page from
    >verizons own website!, and then his boss swore there also was no such plan..
    >I finally had to call the national CS people, and they knew all about it and
    >added it no problem)
    >
    >I hate to be skeptical, but lets face it, my theory is that the saledrones
    >don't make a commision on this plan , ergo they refuse to know anything
    >about it and try and get people to go with something they can make money on.
    ><--- That's my opinion, but in fairness I should say I hate saledroids.
    >
    >
    >
    >

    Sorry but ithere is no plan like above in my zipcode. Guess I'm just
    out of luck.
    Thanks
    --
    Arf Arf!
    Visit http://www.pitpuppy.org



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  2. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "alpha©" <alpha©@pitpuppy©.org> wrote in message
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    > Sorry but ithere is no plan like above in my zipcode. Guess I'm just
    > out of luck.
    > Thanks
    > --
    > Arf Arf!
    > Visit http://www.pitpuppy.org
    >
    >
    >
    > Email: Remove the ©


    Just out of curiosity, what zip code? Just checked a few and am wondering
    what market doesn't have it. Any chance you are not in a native Verizon
    area, but in one of it's extended area partners?
  3. alpha©

    alpha© Guest

    On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:23:45 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:

    >
    >"alpha©" <alpha©@pitpuppy©.org> wrote in message
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    >
    >> Sorry but ithere is no plan like above in my zipcode. Guess I'm just
    >> out of luck.
    >> Thanks
    >> --
    >> Arf Arf!
    >> Visit http://www.pitpuppy.org
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Email: Remove the ©

    >
    >Just out of curiosity, what zip code? Just checked a few and am wondering
    >what market doesn't have it. Any chance you are not in a native Verizon
    >area, but in one of it's extended area partners?

    Zip is 77632
    They have it but the pricing is not the same, the previous post had
    shown the $39.99 - 400 min , but the cheapest I can find is $35.00 -
    150 min.
    >


    --
    "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not
    bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
    -- Mark Twain

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  4. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "alpha©" <alpha©@pitpuppy©.org> wrote in message
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    > On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:23:45 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"alpha©" <alpha©@pitpuppy©.org> wrote in message
    > >news:2qbcov0vdtsa1alk2h1a2ffajcra7h23fa@4ax.com...
    > >
    > >> Sorry but ithere is no plan like above in my zipcode. Guess I'm just
    > >> out of luck.
    > >> Thanks
    > >> --
    > >> Arf Arf!
    > >> Visit http://www.pitpuppy.org
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Email: Remove the ©

    > >
    > >Just out of curiosity, what zip code? Just checked a few and am wondering
    > >what market doesn't have it. Any chance you are not in a native Verizon
    > >area, but in one of it's extended area partners?

    > Zip is 77632
    > They have it but the pricing is not the same, the previous post had
    > shown the $39.99 - 400 min , but the cheapest I can find is $35.00 -
    > 150 min.
    > >

    >
    > --
    > "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not
    > bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
    > -- Mark Twain
    >
    > Email: Remove the ©


    Dang, I just popped in your zip code and it is different! (But you already
    knew that). At any rate, I'm almost ready to start being a verizon dealer
    and the people are coming today to bring me papers to sign today, while I
    got the pen in my hand and BEFORE I sign (maybe the best bargaining time),
    I'll ask why it's different for your zipcode... :)
  5. alpha©

    alpha© Guest

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 04:47:26 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:

    >
    >"alpha©" <alpha©@pitpuppy©.org> wrote in message
    >news:4h4dov83i01kviaec2v475751kskd32tgj@4ax.com...
    >> On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:23:45 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    >> <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >"alpha©" <alpha©@pitpuppy©.org> wrote in message
    >> >news:2qbcov0vdtsa1alk2h1a2ffajcra7h23fa@4ax.com...
    >> >
    >> >> Sorry but ithere is no plan like above in my zipcode. Guess I'm just
    >> >> out of luck.
    >> >> Thanks
    >> >> --
    >> >> Arf Arf!
    >> >> Visit http://www.pitpuppy.org
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> Email: Remove the ©
    >> >
    >> >Just out of curiosity, what zip code? Just checked a few and am wondering
    >> >what market doesn't have it. Any chance you are not in a native Verizon
    >> >area, but in one of it's extended area partners?

    >> Zip is 77632
    >> They have it but the pricing is not the same, the previous post had
    >> shown the $39.99 - 400 min , but the cheapest I can find is $35.00 -
    >> 150 min.
    >> >

    >>
    >> --
    >> "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not
    >> bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
    >> -- Mark Twain
    >>
    >> Email: Remove the ©

    >
    >Dang, I just popped in your zip code and it is different! (But you already
    >knew that). At any rate, I'm almost ready to start being a verizon dealer
    >and the people are coming today to bring me papers to sign today, while I
    >got the pen in my hand and BEFORE I sign (maybe the best bargaining time),
    >I'll ask why it's different for your zipcode... :)


    Thanks (I thought it was just me) ;-)

    --
    "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not
    bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
    -- Mark Twain

    Email: Remove the ©
  6. Al H

    Al H Guest

    On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:02:50 -0700, "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >(Apologies to the group - I would email this privately to Al but can't find
    >his email address.)


    No apologies :). This is on topic and I'm sure it is of interest to
    others. I keep my email address off of newsgroups because they are
    spambot magnets.
    >
    >
    >> It probably won't work when you are roaming.

    >
    >Perhaps it would work when roaming but that's when they would charge me
    >extra?


    I say probably won't work when you are roaming because it is a Verizon
    specific service. It won't likely exist in the same form on other
    networks.

    >
    >Thanks Al for answering these questions. What cellphone are you using? And
    >do you use the Ositech card?
    >


    I have an Audiovox 9500 with Verizon's data cable. I don't know what
    an OSITECH card is.
  7. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    "Al H" <star111lists@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:ghaeov4t3e6spkpg1gssgaq2mcb3em1tkg@4ax.com...

    > No apologies :). This is on topic and I'm sure it is of interest to
    > others. I keep my email address off of newsgroups because they are
    > spambot magnets.


    Yes, I know. That's why I use a 'throwaway' free webmail for mine. ;)

    > I say probably won't work when you are roaming because it is a Verizon
    > specific service. It won't likely exist in the same form on other
    > networks.


    OK, I understand. For data you can't be roaming much unless the other
    network is a Verizon partner. For voice, however, I think you can roam all
    over the place but you'll get charged the roaming charges when you have the
    America's Choice plan.

    > I have an Audiovox 9500 with Verizon's data cable.


    Is that a 'tri-mode' phone? Able to do digital as well as analog?

    > I don't know what
    > an OSITECH card is.


    Ositech's Cellflex card "will increase your ability to access vital
    information from anywhere, by allowing you to make data connections from
    either Digital or Analog coverage areas."

    Their website: http://www.ositech.com/CellFlex/CellFlex.htm

    Thanks, Arcy
  8. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Al H" <star111lists@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:ghaeov4t3e6spkpg1gssgaq2mcb3em1tkg@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:02:50 -0700, "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >(Apologies to the group - I would email this privately to Al but can't

    find
    > >his email address.)

    >
    > No apologies :). This is on topic and I'm sure it is of interest to
    > others. I keep my email address off of newsgroups because they are
    > spambot magnets.
    > >
    > >
    > >> It probably won't work when you are roaming.

    > >
    > >Perhaps it would work when roaming but that's when they would charge me
    > >extra?

    >
    > I say probably won't work when you are roaming because it is a Verizon
    > specific service. It won't likely exist in the same form on other
    > networks.
    >
    > >
    > >Thanks Al for answering these questions. What cellphone are you using?

    And
    > >do you use the Ositech card?
    > >

    >
    > I have an Audiovox 9500 with Verizon's data cable. I don't know what
    > an OSITECH card is.
    >
    >


    I use an ositech king of hearts all the time. I full time in my RV, and
    sometimes end up in an area that only has analog rather than digital
    signals, the ositech card allows the use of analog cellular for data calls.
    See them at http://www.ositech.com.
  9. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:31:28 -0700, "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com>
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >"Al H" <star111lists@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    >news:ghaeov4t3e6spkpg1gssgaq2mcb3em1tkg@4ax.com...


    >> No apologies :). This is on topic and I'm sure it is of interest to
    >> others. I keep my email address off of newsgroups because they are
    >> spambot magnets.


    >Yes, I know. That's why I use a 'throwaway' free webmail for mine. ;)


    OT, but I use POPmail, and it "throws away" all the spam I get without
    my having to use another email address.
  10. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bm7ck9$jd5r5$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
    >
    > I use an ositech king of hearts all the time. I full time in my RV, and
    > sometimes end up in an area that only has analog rather than digital
    > signals, the ositech card allows the use of analog cellular for data

    calls.
    > See them at http://www.ositech.com.


    You have the America's Choice Plan, right? With EN added at no extra charge?
    Looking at the coverage map for America's Choice, I notice that the coverage
    is very sparse out West compared to coverage in the East and part of the
    Midwest. I don't know where you are RVing most of the time, but do you run
    into a lot of analog use and do you often have to pay extra for roaming?

    When I compare the map for National Access, I see that the coverage is much
    less than the map for America's Choice.

    A weird thing happened this morning; I clicked on the National Single Rate
    map and up came the same identical map as for National Access. It used to be
    that the NSR covered the 48 contiguous states and was all filled out in red.
    I wonder if they made a mistake here?

    BTW, did you sign the papers to become a Verizon dealer?

    Arcy
  11. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:bm7ck9$jd5r5$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > >
    > > I use an ositech king of hearts all the time. I full time in my RV, and
    > > sometimes end up in an area that only has analog rather than digital
    > > signals, the ositech card allows the use of analog cellular for data

    > calls.
    > > See them at http://www.ositech.com.

    >
    > You have the America's Choice Plan, right? With EN added at no extra

    charge?
    > Looking at the coverage map for America's Choice, I notice that the

    coverage
    > is very sparse out West compared to coverage in the East and part of the
    > Midwest. I don't know where you are RVing most of the time, but do you run
    > into a lot of analog use and do you often have to pay extra for roaming?
    >
    > When I compare the map for National Access, I see that the coverage is

    much
    > less than the map for America's Choice.
    >
    > A weird thing happened this morning; I clicked on the National Single Rate
    > map and up came the same identical map as for National Access. It used to

    be
    > that the NSR covered the 48 contiguous states and was all filled out in

    red.
    > I wonder if they made a mistake here?
    >
    > BTW, did you sign the papers to become a Verizon dealer?
    >
    > Arcy
    >
    >


    AC plan with express network (minutes of use), I used to live in florida,
    mainly RV on the east coast, but am now on the west coast. I travel in my RV
    all over the country (have been traveling for 6 years, I'm tired, staying in
    one place selling/fixing computers and selling cell phones now seemed a good
    idea. It was either stay here and start a biz, or go to Arizona for the
    winter. I'm in Northern Idaho now). Just went to Alaska and thankfully had
    the ositech card in my junkdrawer cuz all they had there was analog!
    Sometimes the RV parks are a bit out of town, luckily the RV is 12 feet
    tall, and I have a directional external antenna on the roof and a repeater
    inside the RV (5 bar signal for both voice and data!). One thing I have
    noticed, is that things are always changing, just because you look at a
    brochure or website today, doesn't mean it will be the same tomorrow. For
    instance, I used to use the cellphone to get on the internet, when I got
    back from AK, I was in an RV park and got a wifi card for my laptop (the RV
    park has a Wi-Fi repeater here), and just last week, The cable company here
    added internet, and since I get free cable in the RV, I added high speed
    internet access (cost $42 a month, but I have high speed cable internet in
    my RV!). Sorry, enough babbling, yes, signed the paper, asked about your zip
    code, and was told that you are in an extended area, and that the Verizon
    timeline is only for their equip, not for their partners (IE you can do
    voice for sure, but data on the EP systems is up to the EP's time frame).

    The National Access map is only for data-capable verizon towers and
    partners, Americas choice is for voice only. (hence the difference).

    When you asked about paying extra for roaming, yes and no. If your indicator
    shows you are roaming on the extended network, theres no roaming charge,
    but when it shows roaming there is usually a charge (I got the canada
    option, cost $10 a month, but there were no roaming charges on the way to
    Alaska even though the indicator showed roaming the whole way). PS AC DOES
    cover Alaska, just not digitaly yet (I here it covers Hawaii too, but theres
    no way to drive an RV there :)
  12. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > AC plan with express network (minutes of use), I used to live in florida,
    > mainly RV on the east coast, but am now on the west coast. I travel in my

    RV
    > all over the country (have been traveling for 6 years, I'm tired, staying

    in
    > one place selling/fixing computers and selling cell phones now seemed a

    good
    > idea. It was either stay here and start a biz, or go to Arizona for the
    > winter. I'm in Northern Idaho now).


    You're only about 400 miles from where I am right now. (halfway between
    Seattle & Portland)

    > Just went to Alaska and thankfully had
    > the ositech card in my junkdrawer cuz all they had there was analog!
    > Sometimes the RV parks are a bit out of town, luckily the RV is 12 feet
    > tall, and I have a directional external antenna on the roof and a repeater
    > inside the RV (5 bar signal for both voice and data!). One thing I have
    > noticed, is that things are always changing, just because you look at a
    > brochure or website today, doesn't mean it will be the same tomorrow. For
    > instance, I used to use the cellphone to get on the internet, when I got
    > back from AK, I was in an RV park and got a wifi card for my laptop (the

    RV
    > park has a Wi-Fi repeater here), and just last week, The cable company

    here
    > added internet, and since I get free cable in the RV, I added high speed
    > internet access (cost $42 a month, but I have high speed cable internet in
    > my RV!). Sorry, enough babbling, yes, signed the paper, asked about your

    zip
    > code, and was told that you are in an extended area, and that the Verizon
    > timeline is only for their equip, not for their partners (IE you can do
    > voice for sure, but data on the EP systems is up to the EP's time frame).


    You've got me confused with Alpha© who had the problem. Fortunately, being
    an RVer also (although not full-time yet but soon) I have the choice of
    going most anywhere and activating my service.

    > The National Access map is only for data-capable verizon towers and
    > partners, Americas choice is for voice only. (hence the difference).


    But if I only get America's Choice and *can't* get the EN MOU added for no
    extra cost, and want to get on the 'net, America's Choice will not work for
    data? This has got me confused now....
    So my question is: Can I get data if subscribed to America's Choice
    *without* also having EN?

    > When you asked about paying extra for roaming, yes and no. If your

    indicator
    > shows you are roaming on the extended network, theres no roaming charge,
    > but when it shows roaming there is usually a charge (I got the canada
    > option, cost $10 a month, but there were no roaming charges on the way to
    > Alaska even though the indicator showed roaming the whole way). PS AC DOES
    > cover Alaska, just not digitaly yet (I here it covers Hawaii too, but

    theres
    > no way to drive an RV there :)


    Yes I know that I pay for extra roaming if my indicator shows I am roaming.
    What I wanted to know was how often did you have to pay for roaming in the
    West?

    Thanks so much for taking the time to help this ol' gal. <GG>

    Arcy
  13. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Yes I know that I pay for extra roaming if my indicator shows I am

    roaming.
    > What I wanted to know was how often did you have to pay for roaming in the
    > West?
    >
    > Thanks so much for taking the time to help this ol' gal. <GG>
    >
    > Arcy
    >
    >


    Again, that depends. On my phone (a kyocera 2235) I can set roam options. I
    leave mine set to "No Roaming" unless I physically have the phone in my hand
    and am in an area where there is analog only and have no other choice (to
    roam and probably pay). I just do that so there are no surprises on my bill.
    I have auto pay on a CC, and the paper bills go to my fathers home in FL (I
    use that for an address but am not physically there). I have a fear of
    leaving it on roaming, hitting the send button while it is in my pocket in a
    roaming area, and getting some huge honking bill that is automatically paid
    by my credit card. If I want to make a voice call from a roaming area (or
    data with the ositech card) I go into the network settings and put it to
    automatic A/B, make the call, then set it back to no roaming.

    There are some areas I have been though that are verizon EXTENDED areas
    which are Analog and roaming (all of Alaska is like that), but those are
    thankfully few and far between, I never tried using the phone in those areas
    for data when driving, and most RV places (that I stop at) are somewhere
    near a city and usually on the extended network. To answer your question
    exactly, (knowing that I tend not to set the phone for roaming, and don't
    use data from areas I know it will cost), i'd say in 6 years, my roaming
    charges have been about $23.
  14. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:iYecnd0IVezjWBWiXTWJkA@comcast.com...
    >
    >
    > But if I only get America's Choice and *can't* get the EN MOU added for no
    > extra cost, and want to get on the 'net, America's Choice will not work

    for
    > data? This has got me confused now....
    > So my question is: Can I get data if subscribed to America's Choice
    > *without* also having EN?
    >
    >
    > Arcy
    >
    >


    First of all, understand there is no official plan/option/etc called EN MOU,
    that is a description of what it in effect is, but not what it is called.
    (IE If you walk into a verizon place and ask for EN MOU to be added to your
    plan, and they look it up on the computer, there IS NO PLAN or option with
    those initials, ergo you can never get what doesn't exist!

    The website (and the AC map and the NA plan map) is more of a marketing
    tool. The AC map shows essentially where verizon and all of it's partners
    have voice or low speed data (remember QWK2NET, non packet switched and max
    14.4? <some people install it wrong and think it does 19.2>), it's not on
    the website anymore, the ac map shows where the lower speed voice and
    qwk2net work (basically non packet switched), while the NA map basically
    shows where verizon own towers and has the express network working (it is a
    subset of AC).

    If you go with the AC plan, you can ALWAYS do voice and low speed data
    (QWK2NET) anywhere you have digital service (or Analog if you have a
    tri-mode phone that does analog and a card like the ositech), for high speed
    data you have to be in the subset NA area (note it is much smaller, and only
    shows where high speed is), and have a phone that is capable of the higher
    speed.

    Note that which plan and options you can get vary by zip code, phone you
    have, and service in that area. Without knowing your zip code I wouldn't
    even hazard a guess (theres a lot of zip codes between here and seattle, and
    some are analog only areas)
  15. Arcy

    Arcy Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bmanv6$k4kc6$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...

    > First of all, understand there is no official plan/option/etc called EN

    MOU,
    > that is a description of what it in effect is, but not what it is called.
    > (IE If you walk into a verizon place and ask for EN MOU to be added to

    your
    > plan, and they look it up on the computer, there IS NO PLAN or option with
    > those initials, ergo you can never get what doesn't exist!


    Yes, I know they have no 'official' plan called EN MOU, but it's got to have
    some name (or code number) so I can ask for it to be added to my service.
    You got EN that evidently uses the AC minutes - how did you manage to get
    that added to your plan? Or is it - as someone else mentioned - an automatic
    add-on since sometime this June/July?

    > The website (and the AC map and the NA plan map) is more of a marketing
    > tool. The AC map shows essentially where verizon and all of it's partners
    > have voice or low speed data (remember QWK2NET, non packet switched and

    max
    > 14.4? <some people install it wrong and think it does 19.2>), it's not on
    > the website anymore, the ac map shows where the lower speed voice and
    > qwk2net work (basically non packet switched), while the NA map basically
    > shows where verizon own towers and has the express network working (it is

    a
    > subset of AC).


    OK that makes sense to me now. <GG>

    > If you go with the AC plan, you can ALWAYS do voice and low speed data
    > (QWK2NET) anywhere you have digital service (or Analog if you have a
    > tri-mode phone that does analog and a card like the ositech), for high

    speed
    > data you have to be in the subset NA area (note it is much smaller, and

    only
    > shows where high speed is), and have a phone that is capable of the higher
    > speed.


    Very good explanation. Thank you! I intend to get a phone that is tri-mode.
    The Ositech card may or may not come later, depending on how often I will be
    in analog service where I will normally be hanging out.

    > Note that which plan and options you can get vary by zip code, phone you
    > have, and service in that area. Without knowing your zip code I wouldn't
    > even hazard a guess (theres a lot of zip codes between here and seattle,

    and
    > some are analog only areas)


    I can't get Verizon where I am right now (I presently have T-Mobile voice
    only) but as I mentioned before, I am going to go full-time RVing soon and I
    will be more in the Eastern US from then on. I then can go to the area that
    is most advantageous to me for obtaining service. All these questions I have
    asked are to get information and explore my options and 'get all my ducks in
    a row'. I have plunked in several possible zip codes and noticed that there
    is a difference in what's available. There is even a difference in the
    number of phones that are available.

    Again, thank you for your patience and your help.

    Arcy
  16. Arcy <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:bmanv6$k4kc6$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
    >
    >> First of all, understand there is no official plan/option/etc called EN

    > MOU,
    >> that is a description of what it in effect is, but not what it is called.
    >> (IE If you walk into a verizon place and ask for EN MOU to be added to

    > your
    >> plan, and they look it up on the computer, there IS NO PLAN or option with
    >> those initials, ergo you can never get what doesn't exist!

    >
    > Yes, I know they have no 'official' plan called EN MOU, but it's got to have
    > some name (or code number) so I can ask for it to be added to my service.


    It appears on my account on the Verizon website as EN Minutes of Use.


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  17. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:16:47 -0700, "Arcy" <lovebasenjis@yahoo.com>
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I can't get Verizon where I am right now (I presently have T-Mobile voice
    >only) but as I mentioned before, I am going to go full-time RVing soon and I
    >will be more in the Eastern US from then on. I then can go to the area that
    >is most advantageous to me for obtaining service.


    If you try the NY Metro market, the EN MOU code is 1XPP1. They add
    that code to your features page and you have EN MOU. I don't know
    what the code is for other markets, or what it'll be in the future.
  18. Don

    Don Guest

    > > First of all, understand there is no official plan/option/etc called EN
    > MOU,
    > > that is a description of what it in effect is, but not what it is called.
    > > (IE If you walk into a verizon place and ask for EN MOU to be added to

    > your
    > > plan, and they look it up on the computer, there IS NO PLAN or option with
    > > those initials, ergo you can never get what doesn't exist!

    >

    If what you say is true then why do I have a billing statement given to
    me when I signed up for the 34.99 AC Plan that shows Express Network for
    MOU - No Charge? The statement was generated by their store computer.
    If there is no such official plan/option then why would it be in their
    computer?

    Don
  19. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Don" <rver123@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:3F8A3D12.54F5@mindspring.com...
    > > > First of all, understand there is no official plan/option/etc called

    EN
    > > MOU,
    > > > that is a description of what it in effect is, but not what it is

    called.
    > > > (IE If you walk into a verizon place and ask for EN MOU to be added to

    > > your
    > > > plan, and they look it up on the computer, there IS NO PLAN or option

    with
    > > > those initials, ergo you can never get what doesn't exist!

    > >

    > If what you say is true then why do I have a billing statement given to
    > me when I signed up for the 34.99 AC Plan that shows Express Network for
    > MOU - No Charge? The statement was generated by their store computer.
    > If there is no such official plan/option then why would it be in their
    > computer?
    >
    > Don


    Cause you are seeing the Description that is displayed by whatever code is
    put in, not the plan code with those initials... I stated "there IS NO PLAN
    or option with those initials".
  20. I had it added to my AC plan this summer, but it is listed as Express
    Network, not Express Network MOU

    Charlie

    "Don" <rver123@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:3F8A3D12.54F5@mindspring.com...
    > > > First of all, understand there is no official plan/option/etc called

    EN
    > > MOU,
    > > > that is a description of what it in effect is, but not what it is

    called.
    > > > (IE If you walk into a verizon place and ask for EN MOU to be added to

    > > your
    > > > plan, and they look it up on the computer, there IS NO PLAN or option

    with
    > > > those initials, ergo you can never get what doesn't exist!

    > >

    > If what you say is true then why do I have a billing statement given to
    > me when I signed up for the 34.99 AC Plan that shows Express Network for
    > MOU - No Charge? The statement was generated by their store computer.
    > If there is no such official plan/option then why would it be in their
    > computer?
    >
    > Don

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