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Is this a legal phone?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by KM, Jan 6, 2004.

  1. Dave C.

    Dave C. Guest

    > Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
    > numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
    > and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
    > speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.
    >
    > --
    > Earl F. Parrish
    >


    It doesn't, but it has one-touch dialing which could be activated without
    removing the phone from your head. -Dave



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  2. On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:11:27 -0500, "Dave C."
    <spammersdie@ahorribledeath.now> wrote:

    >> Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
    >> numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
    >> and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
    >> speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Earl F. Parrish
    >>

    >
    >It doesn't, but it has one-touch dialing which could be activated without
    >removing the phone from your head. -Dave
    >


    Or auto answer set to on for incoming calls. A person can control
    when they make a call. Having the phone strapped to your head with AA
    on would take care of the incoming calls that are beyond your control.
  3. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:05:20 -0500, Isaiah Beard
    <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com> posted to alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Al Klein wrote:
    >> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:11:03 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
    >> <ghost@general.lee> posted to alt.cellular.verizon:


    >> The New York law specifies that the violation is holding the phone up
    >> to your ear to hear it. It doesn't specify "with your hand". (It
    >> does specify that "cell phone" refers to a device connected to the
    >> public switched telephone network, though, eliminating any connection
    >> to two-way radios.)


    >Not necessarily... quite a few two-way radios have "phone patch"
    >capability, which was a special channel that allows a call to be placed
    >(sometimes by a dispatcher, but automated systems are common) and
    >connected to the two-way radio, just the same way the old, old
    >pre-cellular MTS system worked.


    I know what a patch is - and, according to NY law, if you hold the
    radio to your ear while connected to a patch you're in violation.

    > It's a clunky interface and limited of
    >course by the fact that the radio user must "push to talk" while the
    >person on the phone may still they can have a full-duplex conversation


    Unless one has radios on 2 bands, and the patch is running through 2
    repeaters.

    >Even if the phone patch isn't used any longer, I'm sure no one's
    >bothered to remove that capability. Hence, I imagine most police radios
    >still fall under the cell phone category according to this law, and they
    >just don't realize it.


    They do WHEN the phone is actually connected to the PSTN - which is
    almost never done any more, except in amateur radio.
  4. Carl.

    Carl. Guest

    "Bozo the Clown" <anotherbozotheclown@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1d7632c4.0401080747.5a69cb4e@posting.google.com...
    > KM <poboxdc@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

    news:<3FFB4844.10523F89@ix.netcom.com>...
    > > Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
    > > make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
    > > unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
    > > be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
    > > bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
    > > the fine.
    > >
    > > My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
    > > would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
    > > picture?
    > >
    > > http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
    > >
    > > KM

    >
    > Hahahaha! Wasn't someone selling those on eBay a couple of years ago
    > as hands-free device? I seem to remember the same picture.


    Yeah, they had a nice plastic bag/header package too. It said something
    like "Available colors: tan, desert sand, and flesh-tone."


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  5. Carl.

    Carl. Guest

    "Earl F. Parrish" <efparri@nowhere.world> wrote in message
    news:8zmLb.233$Lu1.63@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
    >
    > "KM" <poboxdc@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
    > news:3FFB4844.10523F89@ix.netcom.com...
    > > Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
    > > make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
    > > unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
    > > be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
    > > bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
    > > the fine.
    > >
    > > My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
    > > would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
    > > picture?
    > >
    > > http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
    > >
    > > KM

    >
    > Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
    > numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
    > and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
    > speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.


    Maybe he dials out before starting up the car.


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  6. Joseph

    Joseph Guest

    On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:26:44 GMT, "Earl F. Parrish"
    <efparri@nowhere.world> wrote:

    >Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
    >numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
    >and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
    >speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.


    Evidently you haven't read a whole lot of articles related to hands
    free versus holding the phone. It's not just the holding of the
    phone, but the distraction of the call which is a good part of the
    problem.

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  7. Dave C.

    Dave C. Guest

    >
    > Evidently you haven't read a whole lot of articles related to hands
    > free versus holding the phone. It's not just the holding of the
    > phone, but the distraction of the call which is a good part of the
    > problem.
    >
    >


    Yup, I've said many times that if talking on a cell phone while driving is a
    problem, then the practice should be outlawed completely. Specifying that
    you must use a hands-free kit solves nothing, as the problem is the
    conversation takes your mind off the road. -Dave
  8. Evan Platt

    Evan Platt Guest

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 23:24:41 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
    <ghost@general.lee> wrote:

    >Makes me wish I has my old police Crown Vic with spotlight and
    >wig-wags agian. A REAL attention getter.:)


    Hey! That was MY car! :)

    91 Crown vic. White, dual spots, wig wags, 100 watt siren.. ahh the
    good old days.

    Now I have a 01 Taurus. :)
    To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.
  9. On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:50:42 -0800, Evan Platt
    <evan@TheObvious.espphotography.com> wrote:

    >Hey! That was MY car! :)
    >
    >91 Crown vic. White, dual spots, wig wags, 100 watt siren.. ahh the
    >good old days.


    Mine was a charcoal gray '89 P72, single 5" spot, 3 antennas, no
    siren. Sirens are illegal in SC on non-government owned vehicles.
    Even volunteer firemen are only allowed to have the red and/or white
    lights.

    I've got a '97 P71 now, white, no wig wags, no spot light, no antennas
    (even the AM/FM is built into the back window), but with dark window
    tint all around. It'll still move traffic out of the fast lane on the
    interstate.:)
  10. David S

    David S Guest

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:12:10 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
    <ghost@general.lee> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the
    universe, and everything:

    >On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:50:42 -0800, Evan Platt
    ><evan@TheObvious.espphotography.com> wrote:
    >
    >>Hey! That was MY car! :)
    >>
    >>91 Crown vic. White, dual spots, wig wags, 100 watt siren.. ahh the
    >>good old days.

    >
    >Mine was a charcoal gray '89 P72, single 5" spot, 3 antennas, no
    >siren. Sirens are illegal in SC on non-government owned vehicles.
    >Even volunteer firemen are only allowed to have the red and/or white
    >lights.
    >
    >I've got a '97 P71 now, white, no wig wags, no spot light, no antennas
    >(even the AM/FM is built into the back window), but with dark window
    >tint all around. It'll still move traffic out of the fast lane on the
    >interstate.:)


    I currently drive a '94 Caprice that looks like what it used to be, a
    deputy's (Deputy G.L. Glassburn, to be exact; he put his name on the side
    windows) cruiser from whatever county's seat is in Peru, IN (I always
    forget which). Unfortunately, all they left was the single spot, the
    "ticket-writing light," and the switch that turns off the dashboard lights
    (and the radio display) when the headlights are off (hit that switch by
    accident and drove for a couple weeks with at least the parking lights on
    so I could see how fast I was going). (The oil and trans fluid coolers are
    nice.) Unfortunately, the spot no longer works, but I haven't made a
    serious attempt to fix it and if I can't, I have another one a friend gave
    me.

    I had another friend with a gold, late '60s-early '70s Cadillac combo
    ambulance-hearse; his siren worked.

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