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July 5th

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Diamond Dave, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     



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  2. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  3. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  4. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  5. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  6. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  7. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  8. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  9. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  10. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  11. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  12. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  13. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  14. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  15. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  16. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  17. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  18. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  19. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  20. AL <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sobol,
    > Sounds like sour grapes for you... So Verizon didn't work out for you at the
    > new place. And you think Sprint PCS will be better, more power to you. But
    > Sprint gives away less than VZW. And the cost is not really better IMHO.


    Hm. Flat-rate SMS messaging and PCS Vision (1xRTT) web access, monthly download
    credits... and more minutes for lower cost. I'd disagree with you. The costs
    for similar plans (America's Choice versus PCS Free and Clear, for example),
    ARE actually pretty close, though. T-Mobile is probably *the* cheapest carrier
    these days. But I like what I'm getting from Sprint. Yeah, I'm giving something
    up, a half-dozen days that are no longer going to be offpeak. OTOH, since most
    of my family and a number of my friends are on Sprint, the $5 unlimited PCS
    to PCS option is worth much more to me. :) I could pay another $5 per month
    for 7pm nights, but I've decided not to do that right now.

    > away. They have the fewest promotions, special, and options, of any carrier,
    > well because
    > they don't have to offer them.


    I know.

    > But it would not kill them to have a few more holiday options. I was off all
    > day yesterday, and even could have attended a parade. VZW should be willing
    > to give a little, or one day they will wake up with a dwindling customer
    > base. Great network or not.


    I have to agree with you there.

    > I think Cingular & AT&T merger is the best thing
    > that happened to the industry, and Cingular will catch up and perhaps
    > surpass
    > the great VZW.


    It's definitely going to make things interesting. VZ needs some competition
    from a carrier of similar size.

    > So it's not whining, I think it's a legitimate complaint.


    I still say it's sour grapes (to use your phrase). My point was that there
    ARE carriers that don't even give you the holidays VZW gives you.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     

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