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Kyocera 7135 data plans

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Ron Dawes, Jun 11, 2004.

  1. Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Quick said:
    >
    > ; > It seems that people on the "America's Choice" PLAN have
    > ; > "NationalAccess Minutes of Use" on their features list.
    > ;
    > ; Well... maybe not Jeffery -:)
    >
    > Somewhere upthread, I said that I had tried that, and it did not work.
    > The network would not recognize my data call when using anything other
    > than the WAP browser.
    >
    > I am not confused, or at least I don't think I am.
    >
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers installed
    > in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular" browsers, and I
    > had since installed Blazer.
    >
    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.
    >
    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.
    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.
    >


    Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.
    Michael Sullivan specifically stated a couple of days ago, "you need to
    set the 7135 to use 1xRTT for its data network connection
    (PDAPrefs/Network/Service set to "Express Network (1XRTT)")." So have
    you tried that on an America's Choice plan that included the NA
    option/feature?

    Steve
     



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  2. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  3. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  4. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  5. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  6. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  7. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  8. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  9. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  10. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  11. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  12. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  13. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  14. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  15. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  16. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  17. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  18. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  19. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  20. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     

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