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Kyocera 7135 data plans

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Ron Dawes, Jun 11, 2004.

  1. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     



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  2. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  3. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  4. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  5. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  6. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  7. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  8. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  9. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  10. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  11. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  12. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > To recap:
    >
    > My hardware is a SmartPhone. It came with three web browsers
    > installed in ROM. A WAP browser and two small-format "regular"
    > browsers, and I had since installed Blazer.


    Yes, I have one. I have used the wap browser but deleted it from ROM.
    Deleted the EIS browser as well. I use WebProV and occassionally Xiino
    now.

    > On the National Access +plan+ I can use any of the four browsers I
    > wish. I can also use .pqa files (single-purpose minibrowsers).
    >
    > On America's Choice with the National Access +feature+, I could only
    > use the WAP browser.


    ALERT! ALERT! This doesn't make sense. I can connect any of my
    past or present browsers over either QNC or EN/NA. Both links are
    under IP and the link doesn't make a difference (other than speed, billing,
    etc.).
    The IP layer effectively shields applications above it from the link(s)
    below
    it. So if you can connect one application over IP then you should be able
    to connect all applications over IP.

    Have you carefully checked your settings under Palm Prefs->network?

    One thing that comes to mind is that the NA +plan+ could use a different
    number (#777) than the AC +feature+ ? just a wild guess.
    Check each browser and see if they have configuration determining which
    network settings they use from the prefs.

    > What I want is an AC plan with the National Access +feature+ AND be
    > able to use something other than the WAP browser.


    Again, a browser is a browser. They use IP.
    If one works and another doesn't the problem isn't with your connection
    at the link level (QNC or 1xRTT).

    >
    > All of this is on the SmartPhone, not tethered, though I may tether it
    > at some point.


    -Quick
     
  13. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Steve Johnson said:

    ; Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    ; missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    ; of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    ; messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.

    You are right, I have neglected to mention that.

    The only time my SmartPhone went off of 1xRTT was for testing. At
    those times it was set for Q2N, and then back to 1xRTT.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and you don't do
    it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush
     
  14. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Steve Johnson said:

    ; Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    ; missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    ; of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    ; messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.

    You are right, I have neglected to mention that.

    The only time my SmartPhone went off of 1xRTT was for testing. At
    those times it was set for Q2N, and then back to 1xRTT.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and you don't do
    it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush
     
  15. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Steve Johnson said:

    ; Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    ; missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    ; of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    ; messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.

    You are right, I have neglected to mention that.

    The only time my SmartPhone went off of 1xRTT was for testing. At
    those times it was set for Q2N, and then back to 1xRTT.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and you don't do
    it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush
     
  16. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Steve Johnson said:

    ; Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    ; missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    ; of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    ; messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.

    You are right, I have neglected to mention that.

    The only time my SmartPhone went off of 1xRTT was for testing. At
    those times it was set for Q2N, and then back to 1xRTT.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and you don't do
    it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush
     
  17. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Steve Johnson said:

    ; Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    ; missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    ; of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    ; messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.

    You are right, I have neglected to mention that.

    The only time my SmartPhone went off of 1xRTT was for testing. At
    those times it was set for Q2N, and then back to 1xRTT.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and you don't do
    it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush
     
  18. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Steve Johnson said:

    ; Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    ; missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    ; of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    ; messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.

    You are right, I have neglected to mention that.

    The only time my SmartPhone went off of 1xRTT was for testing. At
    those times it was set for Q2N, and then back to 1xRTT.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and you don't do
    it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush
     
  19. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Steve Johnson said:

    ; Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    ; missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    ; of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    ; messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.

    You are right, I have neglected to mention that.

    The only time my SmartPhone went off of 1xRTT was for testing. At
    those times it was set for Q2N, and then back to 1xRTT.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and you don't do
    it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush
     
  20. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Steve Johnson said:

    ; Jeffrey, I'm just jumping into this discussion today so I may have
    ; missed this, but it looks like you're only dwelling on the service side
    ; of this issue and I didn't see that you followed what a couple of
    ; messages here state to do in setting your phone to use 1xRTT for data.

    You are right, I have neglected to mention that.

    The only time my SmartPhone went off of 1xRTT was for testing. At
    those times it was set for Q2N, and then back to 1xRTT.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and you don't do
    it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush
     

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