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Kyocera 7135 Opinions

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Bob Stock, Dec 21, 2003.

  1. Bob Stock

    Bob Stock Guest

    A colleague of mine is thinking of buying one. Any opinions? Pros?
    Cons?

    I have read some about the model, both on the web and on newsgroups.
    Putting aside the issue of whether a Palm or a Pocket PC is better,
    which is *not* what I want to know, it sounded like many people were
    happy with the 7135. The main complaint were too many fatal errors
    and low battery life. I'm interested in any other opinions.

    Thanks.

    Bob
     



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  2. "Bob Stock" wrote...
    > A colleague of mine is thinking of buying one. Any opinions? Pros?
    > Cons?
    >


    My profession uses a lot of these phones, both on Verizon and Alltel.
    Everyone is very pleased.

    I've not heard of battery life being a critical point with REALTORS®. This
    may be due to the fact that we sync every night, which gives the battery a
    fresh charge. However, the more you devices you hang on a phone, the more
    power you consume. A recent article in the news media commented on how
    features are really booming, but the batteries can't keep up.

    One nice feature of the SmartPhones is that the phone portion will disable
    itself at a certain low-battery point. This protects the data stored in the
    PDA.

    -Paul-
     
  3. Jim Sewell

    Jim Sewell Guest

    Haven't experienced the critical error message since upgrading to MZ1.0.44
    Phone Software, SZ1.0.29 PDA Software, and PRL 50099.

    Have experienced short battery life though. While send and receiving a lot
    of e-mail, the btry lasts about 3-hrs.

    Other than that, I love the phone.


    "Bob Stock" <xxx@x.com> wrote in message
    news:bpmbuvkjd7fo8do3tmkl00mam9s5d5mouf@4ax.com...
    > A colleague of mine is thinking of buying one. Any opinions? Pros?
    > Cons?
    >
    > I have read some about the model, both on the web and on newsgroups.
    > Putting aside the issue of whether a Palm or a Pocket PC is better,
    > which is *not* what I want to know, it sounded like many people were
    > happy with the 7135. The main complaint were too many fatal errors
    > and low battery life. I'm interested in any other opinions.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Bob
     
  4. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Bob Stock said:

    ; A colleague of mine is thinking of buying one. Any opinions? Pros?
    ; Cons?

    The November 22 issue of US News & World Report has an article on these
    ("The Urge To Merge"). I had my 7135 for about a week and a half when
    the author interviewed me. :)

    The biggest thing going for it is the "one less thing to carry" factor.
    If you use a cell phone and a PDA, using a combo device, like the
    Kyocera 7135, obviously means that you can now put one away. Another
    convenience factor is that now you have one less phone book to keep in
    synch because now the address book on your PDA +is+ your phone's
    phonebook. Other than that, what's important to you?

    ; happy with the 7135. The main complaint were too many fatal errors

    The fatal errors were probably the result of not upgrading to the
    device properly. Yes, there are some hardware dependent compatibility
    issues, but if you're smart on the upgrade - and follow the directions!
    - you will likely not have problems. I had one or two because I
    knowingly tried to run some Sony specific programs after upgrading from
    a Clie, and there seems to be a bit of a conflict between a couple of
    new Hacks I'm using, that I've managed to work around.

    ; and low battery life. I'm interested in any other opinions.

    Battery life is an issue. You've now got essentially two different
    machines working off the same power source, and battery tech is still
    lagging behind everything else.

    The biggest problem with the Kyocera 7135 is that there isn't any
    built-in power conserver. If you're in a no-service area, the phone
    will search forever trying to reacquire a signal, and this will suck
    down the battery. It also does not turn off the backlight when using
    the phone. There is an add-on application that takes care of both of
    these, but this should be built-in. If you're usage requires you to
    maintain a second battery, you MUST manually "turn off" the PDA before
    removing the battery, or you have found a shortcut to a hard reset.
    And even then, when you do manually "turn off" the PDA, it does a soft
    reset when you put the battery back in.

    Of course, there are car plugs and portable hands free kits available
    from Kyocera. Another of the nifty things is that when plugged into
    the car kit OR power+headset, there is a voice command mode available
    for the phone.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real
    men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha
    Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri."
    (HHGTTG, Douglas Adams)
     
  5. Quick

    Quick Guest

    "Bob Stock" <xxx@x.com> wrote
    > A colleague of mine is thinking of buying one. Any opinions? Pros?
    > Cons?
    >
    > I have read some about the model, both on the web and on newsgroups.
    > Putting aside the issue of whether a Palm or a Pocket PC is better,
    > which is *not* what I want to know, it sounded like many people were
    > happy with the 7135. The main complaint were too many fatal errors
    > and low battery life. I'm interested in any other opinions.


    I'm 100% pro although I don't think the phone is for everyone. If you
    don't really have a need for a palm or some experience with a Palm you
    may be dissappointed. The great majority of fatal errors are user
    induced (installing, knowingly or not, incompatible apps, incompatible
    configs, etc.). Its not like GIN.

    The battery will last a day of solid usage. Its mainly the phone that
    sucks the battery. Palm usage is generally much lighter on the battery.
    People are used to their cell lasting a few days and their palm more than
    that.

    All this may not matter if your friend wants one quickly. It seems that VZW
    has a a quality issue with the version of the batteries that Kyocera has
    been
    shipping the 7135 with lately. Unofficial word is that VZW has frozen sales
    of the 7135 until the replacement batteries are available (sometime early
    Jan?). Apparently the older batteries are fine. ...-03 vs ...-05.

    -Quick
     
  6. acc

    acc Guest

    What is the add on program you mentioned in this post?

    Thanks
    CC

    "Jeffrey Kaplan" <acv@gordol.org> wrote in message
    news:9itcuvg96tkeaa1chfm20a48mh0nrgtukb@news20.forteinc.com...
    > Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Bob Stock said:
    >
    > ; A colleague of mine is thinking of buying one. Any opinions? Pros?
    > ; Cons?
    >
    > The November 22 issue of US News & World Report has an article on these
    > ("The Urge To Merge"). I had my 7135 for about a week and a half when
    > the author interviewed me. :)
    >
    > The biggest thing going for it is the "one less thing to carry" factor.
    > If you use a cell phone and a PDA, using a combo device, like the
    > Kyocera 7135, obviously means that you can now put one away. Another
    > convenience factor is that now you have one less phone book to keep in
    > synch because now the address book on your PDA +is+ your phone's
    > phonebook. Other than that, what's important to you?
    >
    > ; happy with the 7135. The main complaint were too many fatal errors
    >
    > The fatal errors were probably the result of not upgrading to the
    > device properly. Yes, there are some hardware dependent compatibility
    > issues, but if you're smart on the upgrade - and follow the directions!
    > - you will likely not have problems. I had one or two because I
    > knowingly tried to run some Sony specific programs after upgrading from
    > a Clie, and there seems to be a bit of a conflict between a couple of
    > new Hacks I'm using, that I've managed to work around.
    >
    > ; and low battery life. I'm interested in any other opinions.
    >
    > Battery life is an issue. You've now got essentially two different
    > machines working off the same power source, and battery tech is still
    > lagging behind everything else.
    >
    > The biggest problem with the Kyocera 7135 is that there isn't any
    > built-in power conserver. If you're in a no-service area, the phone
    > will search forever trying to reacquire a signal, and this will suck
    > down the battery. It also does not turn off the backlight when using
    > the phone. There is an add-on application that takes care of both of
    > these, but this should be built-in. If you're usage requires you to
    > maintain a second battery, you MUST manually "turn off" the PDA before
    > removing the battery, or you have found a shortcut to a hard reset.
    > And even then, when you do manually "turn off" the PDA, it does a soft
    > reset when you put the battery back in.
    >
    > Of course, there are car plugs and portable hands free kits available
    > from Kyocera. Another of the nifty things is that when plugged into
    > the car kit OR power+headset, there is a voice command mode available
    > for the phone.
    >
    > --
    > Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    > The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol
    >
    > "In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real
    > men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha
    > Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri."
    > (HHGTTG, Douglas Adams)
     
  7. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, acc said:

    ; What is the add on program you mentioned in this post?

    It's called "Energy Saver". Available via Palmgear.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    Destroy the Borg? Upload Windows 95 !
     
  8. Bob Stock

    Bob Stock Guest

    Thanks to Paul, Jim, Jeffrey, and Quick for their comments. I've
    passed them on to my colleague.

    Bob
     
  9. Randy Given

    Randy Given Guest

    I love my 7135. I have only had it 1.5 months, but it replaced my Hanspring
    Visor Prism (PDA) very nicely. You may know that VZW is temporarily not
    offering it (see other threads and URL below). This should be remedied,
    soon, I hope. If not, I do not want a Pocket PC (the 2003 OS is improved,
    but still not up to my needs), so I might have to go elsewhere. Hoping the
    situation is fixed and my 7135 stays healthy.

    For more discussion on the 7135 and other smartphones:

    http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/
     

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