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LG VX-4500 voice recognition

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Scopacetic, Mar 12, 2004.

  1. Scopacetic

    Scopacetic Guest

    I got the vx4500 and love it, except for one major problem: the voice
    recognition system. Being user independent, I like the idea that it can use
    your voice to find anyone in your directory. The problem is that it doesn't
    recognize my voice, or my wife's voice (we both have 'neutral' midwestern
    accents). It recognizes commands fine, but can't distinguish entries in the
    phone book such as 'home' or 'david' or 'judy'. Anyone else with experience
    on this issue?
     



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  2. Mike Warnke

    Mike Warnke Guest

    I have a question for myself and a friend.
    Phone 1: Audiovox trimode model unknown
    Phone 2: LG VX6000
    Both models are supposed to be data capable.
    Where should we look for cables and sware to connect
    laptops to use to dial up our ISP's?
    TIA, Mike
    BTW I like my 6000. I just park it in the charger
    every nite.

    "Scopacetic" <yearn2burn@email.com> wrote in message
    news:IYt4c.81473$rB4.55622@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
    > I got the vx4500 and love it, except for one major problem: the voice
    > recognition system. Being user independent, I like the idea that it can

    use
    > your voice to find anyone in your directory. The problem is that it

    doesn't
    > recognize my voice, or my wife's voice (we both have 'neutral' midwestern
    > accents). It recognizes commands fine, but can't distinguish entries in

    the
    > phone book such as 'home' or 'david' or 'judy'. Anyone else with

    experience
    > on this issue?
    >
    >
     
  3. Mike Warnke

    Mike Warnke Guest

    Sorry, posted in worong spot!
    My bad Mike

    "Mike Warnke" <powerdad46@_yourfinger_alltel.net> wrote in message
    news:pxu4c.505$CI3.444@fe03.usenetserver.com...
    > I have a question for myself and a friend.
    > Phone 1: Audiovox trimode model unknown
    > Phone 2: LG VX6000
    > Both models are supposed to be data capable.
    > Where should we look for cables and sware to connect
    > laptops to use to dial up our ISP's?
    > TIA, Mike
    > BTW I like my 6000. I just park it in the charger
    > every nite.
    >
    > "Scopacetic" <yearn2burn@email.com> wrote in message
    > news:IYt4c.81473$rB4.55622@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
    > > I got the vx4500 and love it, except for one major problem: the voice
    > > recognition system. Being user independent, I like the idea that it can

    > use
    > > your voice to find anyone in your directory. The problem is that it

    > doesn't
    > > recognize my voice, or my wife's voice (we both have 'neutral'

    midwestern
    > > accents). It recognizes commands fine, but can't distinguish entries in

    > the
    > > phone book such as 'home' or 'david' or 'judy'. Anyone else with

    > experience
    > > on this issue?
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    >
     
  4. Fletcher

    Fletcher Guest

    On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:04:28 -0500, "Scopacetic"
    <yearn2burn@email.com> wrote:
    >I got the vx4500 and love it, except for one major problem: the voice
    >recognition system. Being user independent, I like the idea that it can use
    >your voice to find anyone in your directory. The problem is that it doesn't
    >recognize my voice, or my wife's voice (we both have 'neutral' midwestern
    >accents). It recognizes commands fine, but can't distinguish entries in the
    >phone book such as 'home' or 'david' or 'judy'. Anyone else with experience
    >on this issue?


    Because the 4500 is pre-programmed to recognize natural speech within
    a fairly broad range of voice types and pronunciations of standard
    English words, it will fail to recognize words and names if you don't
    say them naturally without any special emphasis, without exagerating
    the sounds and at a normal pace.

    The 4500 assumes normal volume, standard pronunciation of common
    English words and names, normal speed, and normal articulation. It may
    be natural for us to want to speak louder and more slowly, pause
    between syllables and exaggerate the shape of our sounds when trying
    to "help" the VX4500 understand us -- the same way we may tend to
    speak to people who are hard of hearing or who may not speak English
    as a first language. That, however, is exactly the wrong way to help
    the VX4500 recognize names.

    The 4500 is not hard of hearing and it understands most common English
    words and names amazingly well (except those are do not follow
    standard phonetic rules). But when we speak too loudly and change the
    the normal audio pattern of words and names by speaking too slowly
    and separating our syllables more than in normal english, or by
    exaggerating specific sounds, we no longer sound to the VX4500 lilke
    we are speaking the normal English it was designed to recognize --
    so, understandably, it can't understand us or recognize what we are
    saying. It was designed to understand normal speech and pronunciation,
    not slow or exaggerated speech.

    When I speak in a normal tone of voice, at a normal to fast speed just
    as I would to any other human, my VX4500 understands virtually every
    word and name I say on the first try. When I speak too slowly or try
    to articulate my syllables too much, it does not understand me.

    The reason some people find the more limited systems of voice
    recognition on other phones that require one to record contact names
    more "accurate" is that they can make any sound they want and asociate
    them with a contact record. Unlike the 4500, on those systems, the
    phone does not need to match what they say to any normal English word
    or name -- just to the sound they recorded for it. That approach works
    extremely well for a very limited number (usually 20 to 30) of contact
    names, but the phone's memory and processing capacity don't allow it
    to use that approach for unlimited numbers of contacts or to digit
    dial numbers not in your contacts list. The LG VX4500, on the other
    hand, can recognize virtually any number of contact names without
    pre-recording, because it uses pattern recognition for standard
    English.

    So, I expect your problem may be that you are trying to "help" the
    4500 recognize names. Your "neutral midwestern accents" are right in
    the middle of the voice recognition patterns the 4500 is trained to
    understand -- so your normal way of speaking should be just what the
    4500 needs to hear. I'll bet you and your wife not speaking to the
    4500 like you would to each other, but rather like you would to my 96
    year old grandmother. (She hates it when I exaggerate my speech to
    her as well!)

    A second problem is that the 4500 needs as much vocal information as
    you can provide to distinguish one name from another. Single word
    names are much harder to distinguish from one another than two word
    names. So I recommend you always use full names like Sue Smith
    instead of just Sue or like My House instead of Home in your
    phonebook.

    You can train the 4500 to recognize commands and to recognize how you
    say numbers for digit dialing. Just go to Menu-7-4-4 to train
    commands and to Menu-7-4-5 to train digits.

    The 4500 is a great phone once you get accustomed to it's unique way
    of voice recogntion.

    Hope some of this helps. If not, the phones may be malfunctioning and
    you probably should exchange them.

    -Fletch
     
  5. Liv Sev

    Liv Sev Guest

    In article <IYt4c.81473$rB4.55622@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
    yearn2burn@email.com says...
    > The problem is that it doesn't
    > recognize my voice, or my wife's voice (we both have 'neutral' midwestern
    > accents). It recognizes commands fine, but can't distinguish entries in the
    > phone book such as 'home' or 'david' or 'judy'. Anyone else with experience
    > on this issue?


    Hello,

    First of all, you have to talk to it in a regular manner. Normal speech
    patterns as if you were talking to a person. Not overly loud either.
    Just a regular conversation. Also, you may want to run through the Voice
    Traing more. It only takes a minute or two. However, make sure you turn
    Voice Training mode off before you try to use it again.

    Still having problems, trade it out for another unit. The Voice
    Recognition can work very well.
     
  6. Scopacetic

    Scopacetic Guest

    1) which phones have the most conventional voice recognition entries (make a
    recording for each address book entry)?
    2) what other phones use user independent voice recognition?
    3) are there any that use both methods?

    DAW

    > > The problem is that it doesn't
    > > recognize my voice, or my wife's voice (we both have 'neutral'

    midwestern
    > > accents). It recognizes commands fine, but can't distinguish entries in

    the
    > > phone book such as 'home' or 'david' or 'judy'. Anyone else with

    experience
    > > on this issue?

    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > First of all, you have to talk to it in a regular manner. Normal speech
    > patterns as if you were talking to a person. Not overly loud either.
    > Just a regular conversation. Also, you may want to run through the Voice
    > Traing more. It only takes a minute or two. However, make sure you turn
    > Voice Training mode off before you try to use it again.
    >
    > Still having problems, trade it out for another unit. The Voice
    > Recognition can work very well.
     
  7. Fletcher

    Fletcher Guest

    On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:31:29 -0500, "Scopacetic"
    <yearn2burn@email.com> wrote:

    >1) which phones have the most conventional voice recognition entries (make a
    >recording for each address book entry)?


    Virtually all newer phones except the LG VX4500, which uses voice
    independent recognition. Be aware, however, that many of those phones
    are limited to 20 to 30 entries that can be associated with contact
    names due to memory and processing limits.

    >2) what other phones use user independent voice recognition?


    None that I know of.

    >3) are there any that use both methods?


    Not that I know of. The LG VX4500 does allow you to train the voice
    command and digits to your voice, but does not allow you to record
    names of contacts.

    >DAW
     

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