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M2M or regular airtime charges for voice mail retrevial????

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by plane, Feb 7, 2004.

  1. David S

    David S Guest

    On 10 Feb 2004 08:08:43 -0800, mgh02114@yahoo.com (MGH) chose to add this
    to the great equation of life, the universe, and everything:

    >My verizon bill specifically states that checking voicemail from the
    >handset will be billed as regular airtime, not M2M, regardless of
    >whether I dial *86 or the full cell phone number.


    Okay, that's a whole different kettle of fish. I didn't get that notice in
    my last bill (which is due this Friday). I'll see if it comes in the next
    one...

    --
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    http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter
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    Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time.
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  2. Halogen8

    Halogen8 Guest

    David,

    Its funny how quite a few people seem to think that if others think or say
    something that isn't what they believe, others are automatically trolls.

    When I had Verizon 2 years ago, I was charged peak when I called my
    voicemail or went to another Verizon users voicemail. I'm just telling you
    what I was told in the Verizon store when I got my phone a few weeks ago.

    If you think that constitutes me being a troll, then I guess you are
    entitled to your opinion.


    "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
    news:59ui20ln5r2oqv2phrr5iab2gfdjqaqaot@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:14:22 -0800, "Halogen8"

    <halogen8@nospam.hotmail.com>
    > chose to add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and
    > everything:
    >
    > >I was under the impression that calls to other VZW phones are free, but

    if
    > >it goes to voicemail you are charged out of your peak minutes if its peak
    > >time.

    >
    > Now that's just silly. I can call my own number to check my voice mail and
    > it's m2m, but if I call someone else who would be m2m and get their vm
    > instead, it's NOT m2m???? that's more than silly, it's downright weird.
    >
    > It's so weird, in fact, that I think it's bullshit: either you're being
    > trolled, or you're a troll yourself.
    >
    > --
    > David Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry
    > http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter
    > Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply
    > Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time.
    > "Oh man, Leo, when I think of how hard you convinced me to run, when I
    > think of all the work you did to get me elected, I could pummel your ass."
    > - President Jed Bartlet
    >
  3. Steve B

    Steve B Guest

    "plane" <plane@usa.com> wrote in message
    > STeve, did I read your message correctly---this is the opposite to
    > what I have been told by c/s 50% of the times I called---(grin)


    Yes, you read correctly. The C/S rep said the opposite of what others have
    posted here. I look forward to my next bill to see what it says.

    Steve B
  4. David S

    David S Guest

    On 11 Feb 2004 10:25:55 -0800, plane@usa.com (plane) chose to add this to
    the great equation of life, the universe, and everything:

    >David S <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message news:<59ui20ln5r2oqv2phrr5iab2gfdjqaqaot@4ax.com>...
    >> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:14:22 -0800, "Halogen8" <halogen8@nospam.hotmail.com>
    >> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and
    >> everything:
    >>
    >> >I was under the impression that calls to other VZW phones are free, but if
    >> >it goes to voicemail you are charged out of your peak minutes if its peak
    >> >time.

    >>
    >> Now that's just silly. I can call my own number to check my voice mail and
    >> it's m2m, but if I call someone else who would be m2m and get their vm
    >> instead, it's NOT m2m???? that's more than silly, it's downright weird.
    >>
    >> It's so weird, in fact, that I think it's bullshit: either you're being
    >> trolled, or you're a troll yourself.

    >
    >Why are you being so obnoxious with both your comments and language.
    >Apparently you haven't taken the time to read to other comments and
    >questions as they raise the same questions that you ask, but in more
    >polite manner. And if you know so much, why don't you take time from
    >your busy day and call verizon c/s and straighten them out--because
    >that's what I been advised by c/s as recently as yesterday----and I
    >didn't like it either, but I am not calling the messenger's of bad
    >news a liar or a troll---by the way there is more info on the subject
    >on the Howard forum where the orginal info orginated


    Let me explain how I usually read this group: I go online sometime after 9
    PM (when the landline call to the ISP is cheaper), do a few things on the
    web first (including prescreening my email), then download posts in another
    group and read and respond to them, then I download posts in this one and
    upload my responses to yesterday's posts. I might or might on read any of
    today's posts at that time, but by then I'm usually only awake for a few
    seconds at a time, so I log off and go to bed. I read (and maybe respond
    to) a few posts in the morning (which I really shouldn't; it makes me late
    for work), do some more when I get home, and finish them (unless there are
    too many) before I go on line that night. So the posting time that appears
    on my posts is usually many hours later than when I actually write them.
    Right now, I'm writing this at 8 AM, but the time on it will probably be
    sometime after 11 PM.

    The upshot of this is that I can appear to post statements or questions
    which contradict or are answered by posts with much earlier times on them,
    which may be the case in this instance.

    --
    David Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry
    http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter
    Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply
    Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time.
    "Too often, we U.S. citizens ignorantly assume that our 'neighbor to the
    north' is nothing more than uninhabited tundra festooned with frozen moose
    poop. Yet here we find that it can also be the setting for an intense
    human drama, featuring hot streaming letters. If this powerful story would
    not make an excellent movie starring Julia Roberts as a beautiful yet busty
    female Canadian public-health inspector and Keanu Reeves as a salmonella
    virus, then I frankly do not know what would." - Dave Barry
  5. Student

    Student Guest

    > >
    > > My workaround is to program into a one digit speed dial my phone number,
    > > appropriate pauses, # and PIN numbers. When I get a voice message, it only
    > > takes 2 button presses to retrieve the message: "end" and "1".

    >
    > My verizon bill specifically states that checking voicemail from the
    > handset will be billed as regular airtime, not M2M, regardless of
    > whether I dial *86 or the full cell phone number.


    Well I poseted my issue here a few weeks ago but maybe it was too
    long. I programmed my voicemail number with *86 and password so it is
    under a contact. I checked my minutes one day and it said that I had
    called my voicemail the day before for 1 hour and 22 minutes. Or 82.
    My peak minutes said iused 41 and then nights i had used 52.The
    account was 5 days old at the time. Called verizon they said I got
    lucky.??? I have no idea where those minutes went and why they are not
    showing up. so i am not using 82 minutes of my peak in case they are
    any problem on my first bill.
  6. On 2004-02-10 22:01:14 -0800, David S <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> said:

    > Now that's just silly. I can call my own number to check my voice mail and
    > it's m2m, but if I call someone else who would be m2m and get their vm
    > instead, it's NOT m2m???? that's more than silly, it's downright weird.


    The new policy states precisely the reverse:
    "In order to standardize charges for Voice Mail retrieval across the
    country, beginning with your April 2004 billing statement, accessing
    _your_ Voice Mailbox from _your_ wireless phone by dialing *86 SEND or
    by dialing your wireless phone number will be deducted from your
    general airtime allowance minutes or your night/weekend allowance
    minutes depending upon the time that your call is placed." [emphasis
    added

    Says nothing about other people's VM, and the general consensus over at
    HowardForums was that the CS reps who were saying otherwise were
    misinformed. They all appear to be giving out the correct information
    now.

    Note that if they were to change how calls to _other people's VM_ were
    billed, that would be a _separate_ change from the one described in the
    bill message above, and I believe they'd have to inform you of it
    separately.
  7. David S

    David S Guest

    On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:43:45 -0800, "Halogen8"
    <halogen8@nospam.hotmail.com> chose to add this to the great equation of
    life, the universe, and everything:

    >Its funny how quite a few people seem to think that if others think or say
    >something that isn't what they believe, others are automatically trolls.
    >
    >When I had Verizon 2 years ago, I was charged peak when I called my
    >voicemail or went to another Verizon users voicemail. I'm just telling you
    >what I was told in the Verizon store when I got my phone a few weeks ago.
    >
    >If you think that constitutes me being a troll, then I guess you are
    >entitled to your opinion.


    You didn't say you got it from CS.

    I said that either you were a troll OR you were being trolled. I suppose
    bad CS is a third possibility.

    --
    David Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry
    http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter
    Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply
    Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time.
    "He's gonna have to overcome quite a height disadvantage and, as you can
    see by that lack of stature, in terms of height, quite a height
    disadvantage as well." - Rich Marotta, describing a boxer on 'Prime
    Championship Boxing'
  8. plane

    plane Guest

    David S <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message news:<17hp201msdmhqr6miqm9k3dim5lt045nl7@4ax.com>...
    > On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:43:45 -0800, "Halogen8"
    > <halogen8@nospam.hot
    >
    > You didn't say you got it from CS.
    >
    > I said that either you were a troll OR you were being trolled. I suppose
    > bad CS is a third possibility.
    >
    > --
    > David Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry
    > http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter
    > Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply
    > Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time.
    > "He's gonna have to overcome quite a height disadvantage and, as you can
    > see by that lack of stature, in terms of height, quite a height
    > disadvantage as well." - Rich Marotta, describing a boxer on 'Prime
    > Championship Boxing'



    My Feb statement, at the bottom had the m2m notice--lets bitch at
    verizon not at each other.

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