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missed calls

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Paul J, Oct 4, 2003.

  1. Paul J

    Paul J Guest

    One thing that happens on about 20% of the calls I get on my Kyocera 7135
    and my wife gets on her Motorola T720, we'll have 4 bars and get a
    voicemail. It is clear that somebody just called and the phone never rang.
    Does anybody else have this happen? I've talked to some Verizon people and
    they have lots of guesses but so far no real suggestions on how to fix this.
    I'm curious if their network in San Diego is just too crowded. Also it
    sounds like they might be using an older switch here in San Diego. Any
    ideas on how to get this fixed? It's very frustrating!

    paul



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  2. Ray

    Ray Guest

    constantly on my T720.....nver had it happen on my Kyocera 6035 though

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:39:50 -0700, "Paul J"
    <no_spam_today_please@cox.net> wrote:

    >One thing that happens on about 20% of the calls I get on my Kyocera 7135
    >and my wife gets on her Motorola T720, we'll have 4 bars and get a
    >voicemail. It is clear that somebody just called and the phone never rang.
    >Does anybody else have this happen? I've talked to some Verizon people and
    >they have lots of guesses but so far no real suggestions on how to fix this.
    >I'm curious if their network in San Diego is just too crowded. Also it
    >sounds like they might be using an older switch here in San Diego. Any
    >ideas on how to get this fixed? It's very frustrating!
    >
    >paul
    >
  3. jdoe

    jdoe Guest

    See another post but I'll tell you that VZ will always give the canned
    "equipment" response and suggest you buy another phone and of course extend
    the contract another year or 2 and it won't get better because they'll tell
    you to buy whatever is a high profit maker for them. Been there and fell for
    it. It's their service. If it gets any better SPCS will start to look good
    :(
    Larry
    "Paul J" <no_spam_today_please@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:5Pufb.40935$gv5.38359@fed1read05...
    > One thing that happens on about 20% of the calls I get on my Kyocera 7135
    > and my wife gets on her Motorola T720, we'll have 4 bars and get a
    > voicemail. It is clear that somebody just called and the phone never

    rang.
    > Does anybody else have this happen? I've talked to some Verizon people

    and
    > they have lots of guesses but so far no real suggestions on how to fix

    this.
    > I'm curious if their network in San Diego is just too crowded. Also it
    > sounds like they might be using an older switch here in San Diego. Any
    > ideas on how to get this fixed? It's very frustrating!
    >
    > paul
    >
    >
  4. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Paul J" <no_spam_today_please@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:5Pufb.40935$gv5.38359@fed1read05...
    > One thing that happens on about 20% of the calls I get on my Kyocera 7135
    > and my wife gets on her Motorola T720, we'll have 4 bars and get a
    > voicemail. It is clear that somebody just called and the phone never

    rang.
    > Does anybody else have this happen? I've talked to some Verizon people

    and
    > they have lots of guesses but so far no real suggestions on how to fix

    this.
    > I'm curious if their network in San Diego is just too crowded. Also it
    > sounds like they might be using an older switch here in San Diego. Any
    > ideas on how to get this fixed? It's very frustrating!
    >
    > paul
    >
    >


    I have been having the same problem (I travel full time and sometimes calls
    go direct to voicemail even if I have the phone on), I was told a
    possibility (don't know if it's accurate, but it sounded good). Supposedly
    each cell site has a list of phones that are active on that site, when you
    turn on the phone, you get added to the top of the list so the site knows
    you are there, as more people log on, you get moved down the list. If you go
    out of the area, or go somewhere with no signal your phone can't say "I'm
    still here" and you are taken off the list, if you leave it turned on and
    charging (like I used to do), after a while there are so many active phone
    numbers on the list, you get "bumped" and no longer appear on the list of
    active phones (hence go to email, same as phone being off or out of the
    area). Like I said, I don't know how accurate that is, but I have noticed
    that lost calls usually only happen when the phones been on for a while,
    never when I first turn it on. There supposedly is a *xx number you can dial
    to register again on the network <I forget what the correct number is, maybe
    someone here knows>, but it does the same thing as turning the phone off and
    back on again, and forces you back to the top of the list.
  5. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:14:33 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >There supposedly is a *xx number you can dial
    >to register again on the network <I forget what the correct number is, maybe
    >someone here knows>, but it does the same thing as turning the phone off and
    >back on again, and forces you back to the top of the list.


    *18 if you're in a native verizon area.

    Another possibility is that the cell is overloaded. The signal
    strength is still good, but the cell can't handle any more calls.
    Even though the number of calls a CDMA cell can handle is dynamic,
    there's a limit.

    If this usually happens around 5:15PM on a weekday, but never at 3:AM
    on a weekday, that could be the problem.
  6. Al S

    Al S Guest

    I am in my home area and just tried *18. Received the following
    message: "Welcome to Verizon Wireless, Your call can not be completed as
    dialed. Please check the number and dial again, 59002".

    Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in article
    <3trtnvseui752g4egg5ref1h989crnqn4o@Pern.rk>:
    > On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:14:33 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    > >There supposedly is a *xx number you can dial
    > >to register again on the network <I forget what the correct number is, maybe
    > >someone here knows>, but it does the same thing as turning the phone off and
    > >back on again, and forces you back to the top of the list.

    >
    > *18 if you're in a native verizon area.
    >
    > Another possibility is that the cell is overloaded. The signal
    > strength is still good, but the cell can't handle any more calls.
    > Even though the number of calls a CDMA cell can handle is dynamic,
    > there's a limit.
    >
    > If this usually happens around 5:15PM on a weekday, but never at 3:AM
    > on a weekday, that could be the problem.


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  7. Michael

    Michael Guest

    I have experienced this occasionally over the past few years while using a
    variety of different phones. Because I live in a major metropolitan area, I
    have always worked under the assumption that when the call was placed, all
    the channels on my local cell site were in use, causing the call to be
    diverted to voicemail.

    Sometimes you can experience the same thing using a landline if you try to
    call Uncle Bob or grandma long distance on Christmas or Thanksgiving (when
    everyone else in the country is doing the same thing). However in that case,
    rather than go to voice mail the call is diverted to a message that says all
    circuits are busy.


    "Paul J" <no_spam_today_please@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:5Pufb.40935$gv5.38359@fed1read05...
    > One thing that happens on about 20% of the calls I get on my Kyocera 7135
    > and my wife gets on her Motorola T720, we'll have 4 bars and get a
    > voicemail. It is clear that somebody just called and the phone never

    rang.
    > Does anybody else have this happen? I've talked to some Verizon people

    and
    > they have lots of guesses but so far no real suggestions on how to fix

    this.
    > I'm curious if their network in San Diego is just too crowded. Also it
    > sounds like they might be using an older switch here in San Diego. Any
    > ideas on how to get this fixed? It's very frustrating!
    >
    > paul
    >
    >
  8. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:44:49 -0000, als@net.net (Al S) posted in
    alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I am in my home area and just tried *18. Received the following
    >message: "Welcome to Verizon Wireless, Your call can not be completed as
    >dialed. Please check the number and dial again, 59002".


    I just tried it. I got the 3 short beeps that signify that a service
    has worked.

    Different areas, different bugs.

    (Try *230.)
  9. Paul J

    Paul J Guest

    I tried *18 and got about 15 short quick beeps. Do you supposed this means
    it worked or was an error??

    paul

    "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
    news:8tfunvc5ci64dokaj3mllf72dcos80kt6d@Pern.rk...
    > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:44:49 -0000, als@net.net (Al S) posted in
    > alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    > >I am in my home area and just tried *18. Received the following
    > >message: "Welcome to Verizon Wireless, Your call can not be completed as
    > >dialed. Please check the number and dial again, 59002".

    >
    > I just tried it. I got the 3 short beeps that signify that a service
    > has worked.
    >
    > Different areas, different bugs.
    >
    > (Try *230.)
  10. Larry W4CSC

    Larry W4CSC Guest

    It's called "multipath". Radio signals bounce off conductive objects,
    like buildings, mountains, airplanes (RF loves airplanes), etc. The
    signal that comes straight at you from a tower at some distance gets
    to you a few microseconds before the signal that bounced off American
    634 headed to Phoenix. Both signals have data on them for your little
    toyphone computer, including the ESN they're trying to call. The data
    gets confused in the process because the TIMING, ever important in
    every computer circuit in the world, is screwed up by the multipath.
    So, you get no ring, no call, no answer, dropped calls, nada, crappy
    service.

    The solution is much simpler than you can imagine! MORE towers CLOSER
    together.....instead of more advertising, toy ringers, internet
    service that sucks, video games, PTT or other get-rich-quick schemes
    the company bureaucrats can dream up to waste the money that SHOULD
    have been spent on INFRASTRUCTURE, but was diverted to pretty nonsense
    for the teenage girls to woo over. It's a matter of company
    priorities.....unless we can get the FCC interested in FORCING them to
    PERFORM to their LICENSES.



    On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:39:50 -0700, "Paul J"
    <no_spam_today_please@cox.net> wrote:

    >One thing that happens on about 20% of the calls I get on my Kyocera 7135
    >and my wife gets on her Motorola T720, we'll have 4 bars and get a
    >voicemail. It is clear that somebody just called and the phone never rang.
    >Does anybody else have this happen? I've talked to some Verizon people and
    >they have lots of guesses but so far no real suggestions on how to fix this.
    >I'm curious if their network in San Diego is just too crowded. Also it
    >sounds like they might be using an older switch here in San Diego. Any
    >ideas on how to get this fixed? It's very frustrating!
    >
    >paul
    >
    >



    Larry W4CSC

    3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
    gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
    conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
  11. "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
    news:3trtnvseui752g4egg5ref1h989crnqn4o@Pern.rk...
    > On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:14:33 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    > <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    > >There supposedly is a *xx number you can dial
    > >to register again on the network <I forget what the correct number is,

    maybe
    > >someone here knows>, but it does the same thing as turning the phone off

    and
    > >back on again, and forces you back to the top of the list.

    >
    > *18 if you're in a native verizon area.


    FWIW; I just tried it in Colorado Springs, CO and got the message "Welcome
    to Verizon Wireless. Your feature has been activated. Message number 51
    something."
  12. Booger

    Booger Guest

    "Paul J" <no_spam_today_please@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:5Pufb.40935$gv5.38359@fed1read05...
    > One thing that happens on about 20% of the calls I get on my Kyocera 7135
    > and my wife gets on her Motorola T720, we'll have 4 bars and get a
    > voicemail. It is clear that somebody just called and the phone never

    rang.

    Constantly on my 730. Never on my A310.
  13. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:19:06 -0700, "Paul J"
    <no_spam_today_please@cox.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I tried *18 and got about 15 short quick beeps. Do you supposed this means
    >it worked or was an error??


    It's supposed to be 3 beeps. I have no idea what 15 beeps means.
    "Hard drive failure"?
  14. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:13:09 -0600, "Kirk-O-Scottland" <kos@kosiam.not>
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
    >news:3trtnvseui752g4egg5ref1h989crnqn4o@Pern.rk...
    >> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:14:33 -0700, "Peter Pan"
    >> <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:


    >> >There supposedly is a *xx number you can dial
    >> >to register again on the network <I forget what the correct number is, maybe
    >> >someone here knows>, but it does the same thing as turning the phone off and
    >> >back on again, and forces you back to the top of the list.


    >> *18 if you're in a native verizon area.


    >FWIW; I just tried it in Colorado Springs, CO and got the message "Welcome
    >to Verizon Wireless. Your feature has been activated. Message number 51
    >something."


    That means that you turned on "follow-me roaming", IIRC. Which
    doesn't really exist, since roaming is (supposed to be) automatic
    these days. But the network knew that your phone was available, so
    you should have had no problem getting incoming calls after that.
    (Whether you did or not before.)

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