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My calls show up as "Unknown Caller" in caller ID

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by N2, Aug 7, 2006.

  1. N2

    N2 Guest

    Hello...

    My clients see calls from my VZW phone as "Unknown Caller" on their caller
    ID. Some of my clients have blocking that prevents my call from going
    through because of this. I called VZW and they immediately went into
    head-scratch mode, with no solution.

    There has got to be some way for VZW to configure my account to have my name
    show up on the recipients caller ID. Anyone know of a solution? 73 minutes
    and 4 different people at VZW yielded no help.



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  2. Lena

    Lena Guest

    N2 wrote:
    > My clients see calls from my VZW phone as "Unknown Caller" on their caller
    > ID.


    How long have you had your phone? It takes some time (weeks?) to get
    the caller ID info into the database.
    Most anonymous call rejection schemes that I am aware of only block the
    caller if *no* information is provided, or if the caller intentionally
    blocks the info. If the caller's phone number is provided, the call
    goes through. Your clients are probably ignoring the call when they
    see "unknown caller".

    Lena
  3. N2

    N2 Guest

    "Lena" <lenagainster@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1154988196.568512.75080@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    >
    > N2 wrote:
    >> My clients see calls from my VZW phone as "Unknown Caller" on their
    >> caller
    >> ID.

    >
    > How long have you had your phone? It takes some time (weeks?) to get
    > the caller ID info into the database.
    > Most anonymous call rejection schemes that I am aware of only block the
    > caller if *no* information is provided, or if the caller intentionally
    > blocks the info. If the caller's phone number is provided, the call
    > goes through. Your clients are probably ignoring the call when they
    > see "unknown caller".
    >
    > Lena


    Actually, I get a message saying either "This caller does not accept blocked
    calls..." or "This caller does not accept blocked calls, please state your
    name at the tone...". I actually never block calls. I've been in my
    client's office and called their number to see what shows up: "Unknown
    Caller" and my number.
  4. John

    John Guest

    I'm guessing you tried this, but what happens if you dial *82 before the
    phone # you're calling?

    Good luck.


    "N2" <n2@nunya.com> wrote in message
    news:V3PBg.1194$Qf.879@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    >
    > "Lena" <lenagainster@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:1154988196.568512.75080@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    >>
    >> N2 wrote:
    >>> My clients see calls from my VZW phone as "Unknown Caller" on their
    >>> caller
    >>> ID.

    >>
    >> How long have you had your phone? It takes some time (weeks?) to get
    >> the caller ID info into the database.
    >> Most anonymous call rejection schemes that I am aware of only block the
    >> caller if *no* information is provided, or if the caller intentionally
    >> blocks the info. If the caller's phone number is provided, the call
    >> goes through. Your clients are probably ignoring the call when they
    >> see "unknown caller".
    >>
    >> Lena

    >
    > Actually, I get a message saying either "This caller does not accept
    > blocked calls..." or "This caller does not accept blocked calls, please
    > state your name at the tone...". I actually never block calls. I've been
    > in my client's office and called their number to see what shows up:
    > "Unknown Caller" and my number.
    >
  5. al

    al Guest

    "N2" <n2@nunya.com> wrote in
    news:7nNBg.782$Sn3.3@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

    > Hello...
    >
    > My clients see calls from my VZW phone as "Unknown Caller" on their
    > caller ID. Some of my clients have blocking that prevents my call
    > from going through because of this. I called VZW and they immediately
    > went into head-scratch mode, with no solution.
    >
    > There has got to be some way for VZW to configure my account to have
    > my name show up on the recipients caller ID. Anyone know of a
    > solution? 73 minutes and 4 different people at VZW yielded no help.
    >
    >


    When logged in to my VZW acct I can add or delete caller-id.Maybe you
    can too?

    --
  6. Larry

    Larry Guest

    "Lena" <lenagainster@gmail.com> wrote in news:1154988196.568512.75080@
    75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

    > If the caller's phone number is provided, the call
    > goes through.


    This is true. My caller ID number from Skype Out is:
    000-012-3456
    as is every other Skype user on the planet....even to the cops, government
    snoops and those damned 800 toll-free thieves, which is really nice.

    A friend on Bell$outh has the caller block on his phone. My calls with the
    crazy number go through the block and ring his fone just fine.
  7. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    To my knowledge, VZW caller ID never passes a person's name. Only the
    number.

    -Frank

    "N2" <n2@nunya.com> wrote in message
    news:7nNBg.782$Sn3.3@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > Hello...
    >
    > My clients see calls from my VZW phone as "Unknown Caller" on their caller
    > ID. Some of my clients have blocking that prevents my call from going
    > through because of this. I called VZW and they immediately went into
    > head-scratch mode, with no solution.
    >
    > There has got to be some way for VZW to configure my account to have my
    > name show up on the recipients caller ID. Anyone know of a solution? 73
    > minutes and 4 different people at VZW yielded no help.
    >
  8. Finding the keyboard operational
    Larry entered:

    > "Lena" <lenagainster@gmail.com> wrote in news:1154988196.568512.75080@
    > 75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
    >
    >> If the caller's phone number is provided, the call
    >> goes through.

    >
    > This is true. My caller ID number from Skype Out is:
    > 000-012-3456
    > as is every other Skype user on the planet....even to the cops,
    > government snoops and those damned 800 toll-free thieves, which is
    > really nice.
    >
    > A friend on Bell$outh has the caller block on his phone. My calls
    > with the crazy number go through the block and ring his fone just
    > fine.


    800 numbers? Guess it won't be long before all Skype numbers are blocked on
    the 800 lines. And don't for 1 minute believe that the government can't
    trace you.
    Bob
    --￾
    --￾
    Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
    www.moondoggiecoffee.com
  9. Larry

    Larry Guest

    "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
    news:AgSBg.18444$gU4.17267@trnddc07:

    > 800 numbers? Guess it won't be long before all Skype numbers are
    > blocked on the 800 lines. And don't for 1 minute believe that the
    > government can't trace you.
    > Bob
    >


    Oh, I'm trembling in my boots, Bob! Do tell how ARE they going to trace
    my call back through Luxembourg and the millions of OTHER Skype callers
    whos computers were used to route my call to the POTS interconnect point
    in, say, Chicago or Seattle or Las Vegas??

    Boot Skype and leave it run for an hour. Then, take a TCP/IP program
    like TCPView from www.sysinternals.com (free) and run it on the computer,
    noting all the OTHER Skype-active computers your computer is connected
    to. Hell, my laptop was connected to a Skype user in Belarus and Laos,
    yesterday, on its wifi link at Panera Bread store during lunch! Way
    cool...(c;

    Skype routing is through SKYPE USERS...across the planet. It's a shared
    system.

    Let's do a test. Do you know someone in the cop department of your local
    bureaucracy who traces phone calls? Let's call him from Panera Bread's
    free wifi with my laptop and see if he can trace my call, just for a
    test.

    What's fair? $100? Just to keep it interesting?

    I bet the 800 spammers are really pissed. They want me to call because I
    want to buy something, maybe something expensive! But, alas, they want
    my number so they can sell my info gleaned to some other spammer by the
    thousands. Catch 22? If your 800 number blocks my call, I'll buy from
    someone else. No problem...(c;

    Skype's local phone numbers are gems, themselves. My phone number is in
    the 843-564 number block the phone company lists as Hollywood, SC, just
    south of Charleston. Looking up the other 564 exchange numbers, they are
    all DIALUP MODEMS for a whole bunch of national ISPs who need modems in
    Charleston, SC, from a company that specializes in that interconnect.
    The company just sold a block to Skype of their 10,000 numbers. What
    this means is SKYPE NEVER GETS A COLD SALES CALL! I get calls on my
    cellphone from all kinds of places, especially business places calling my
    business. I have yet to get a cold sales call, whatsoever, on Skype In
    to my private phone number! Way cool...you can eat dinner in peace! The
    bots have the whole block locked out!...(c;

    Open google and put:
    Telephone block 843-564
    into the search engine. You'll find the dialup modem numbers of
    Minnesota Phone Company to Totalspeed.net for Charleston....

    Oops...gotta go. My buddy on Sakhalin Island, Russia, wants me on Skype.
    C'ya. Last month I fixed his crazy tube-type Russian TV via Skype Video
    from the other side of the planet! Bad disk cap in the horizontal output
    stage was arcing, poor high voltage to pix tube. Works great now. I can
    see Russian TV on Skype!...hee hee.
  10. gklatv

    gklatv Guest

    I know that, too.

    Frankster wrote:
    > To my knowledge, VZW caller ID never passes a person's name. Only the
    > number.
    >
    > -Frank
  11. Cinder Lane

    Cinder Lane Guest

    What country/city are you in? In the States, Caller ID identifies
    Verizon's caller as being the city of the number's exchange.

    There is a difference between a blocked call (private call) and an
    unknown caller. A "blocked call" is purposely initiated by the CALLER.
    An "unknown caller" description is the fault of the CALLED party's
    telco. It means that the local telco is not maintaining a cross-lookup
    database. True, it's Verizon's choice that your NAME not be identified,
    but it's the telco's fault that your CITY is not displayed.
  12. Finding the keyboard operational
    Larry entered:

    > "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
    > news:AgSBg.18444$gU4.17267@trnddc07:
    >
    >> 800 numbers? Guess it won't be long before all Skype numbers are
    >> blocked on the 800 lines. And don't for 1 minute believe that the
    >> government can't trace you.
    >> Bob
    >>

    >
    > Oh, I'm trembling in my boots, Bob! Do tell how ARE they going to
    > trace my call back through Luxembourg and the millions of OTHER Skype
    > callers whos computers were used to route my call to the POTS
    > interconnect point in, say, Chicago or Seattle or Las Vegas??
    >
    > Boot Skype and leave it run for an hour. Then, take a TCP/IP program
    > like TCPView from www.sysinternals.com (free) and run it on the
    > computer, noting all the OTHER Skype-active computers your computer
    > is connected to. Hell, my laptop was connected to a Skype user in
    > Belarus and Laos, yesterday, on its wifi link at Panera Bread store
    > during lunch! Way cool...(c;
    >
    > Skype routing is through SKYPE USERS...across the planet. It's a
    > shared system.
    >
    > Let's do a test. Do you know someone in the cop department of your
    > local bureaucracy who traces phone calls? Let's call him from Panera
    > Bread's free wifi with my laptop and see if he can trace my call,
    > just for a test.
    >
    > What's fair? $100? Just to keep it interesting?
    >
    > I bet the 800 spammers are really pissed. They want me to call
    > because I want to buy something, maybe something expensive! But,
    > alas, they want my number so they can sell my info gleaned to some
    > other spammer by the thousands. Catch 22? If your 800 number blocks
    > my call, I'll buy from someone else. No problem...(c;
    >
    > Skype's local phone numbers are gems, themselves. My phone number is
    > in the 843-564 number block the phone company lists as Hollywood, SC,
    > just south of Charleston. Looking up the other 564 exchange numbers,
    > they are all DIALUP MODEMS for a whole bunch of national ISPs who
    > need modems in Charleston, SC, from a company that specializes in
    > that interconnect. The company just sold a block to Skype of their
    > 10,000 numbers. What this means is SKYPE NEVER GETS A COLD SALES
    > CALL! I get calls on my cellphone from all kinds of places,
    > especially business places calling my business. I have yet to get a
    > cold sales call, whatsoever, on Skype In to my private phone number!
    > Way cool...you can eat dinner in peace! The bots have the whole
    > block locked out!...(c;
    >
    > Open google and put:
    > Telephone block 843-564
    > into the search engine. You'll find the dialup modem numbers of
    > Minnesota Phone Company to Totalspeed.net for Charleston....
    >
    > Oops...gotta go. My buddy on Sakhalin Island, Russia, wants me on
    > Skype. C'ya. Last month I fixed his crazy tube-type Russian TV via
    > Skype Video from the other side of the planet! Bad disk cap in the
    > horizontal output stage was arcing, poor high voltage to pix tube.
    > Works great now. I can see Russian TV on Skype!...hee hee.


    Larry don't tremble.
    I'll admit that I don't know all the ins and outs of Skype or how calls or
    internet traffic is traced. I think it's one of those deals where they have
    to kill you before they tell you.
    I have seen a call trace on a moving cell phone. It's very interesting. An
    approximate distance from a cell and as the phone moves, the circle of
    probability gets smaller and smaller.
    So, in short. I'll grant you that I can not prove that Skype is tracable nor
    can I show you how cell phones are traced.
    I am a little put out by your description of 800 number holders as spammers.
    No one forces you to call an 800 number. Since the 800 number owner is
    paying for the call, why shouldn't they be allowed to see who is calling?
    Finally, Using the "Do not call list" and no blocked call option from
    Verizon, I do not get cold calls. Now business are not supposed to cold call
    your cell phone but now they are crying that number portability means that
    they don't know if it's a cell.
    Well I am off to educate myself.
    Bob


    --￾
    --￾
    Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
    www.moondoggiecoffee.com
  13. Larry

    Larry Guest

    "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
    news:BP7Cg.12152$hj4.5367@trnddc03:

    > Now business are not supposed to cold call
    > your cell phone but now they are crying that number portability means
    > that they don't know if it's a cell.
    > Well I am off to educate myself.
    >


    I got a cold sales call to my Verizon numbered Alltel phone this afternoon.
    The number in Caller ID showed 386-615-8312, which is an exchange in
    Daytona Beach the caller said was from some "Editor's something-or-other",
    of course asking for personal information. Google finds nothing at this
    number, of course, and it always answers busy. Switchboard.com has no
    listing and there's no such company to find.

    Maybe the spambots on Usenet can get through 386-615-8312.....(c;
  14. Finding the keyboard operational
    Larry entered:

    > "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
    > news:BP7Cg.12152$hj4.5367@trnddc03:
    >
    >> Now business are not supposed to cold call
    >> your cell phone but now they are crying that number portability means
    >> that they don't know if it's a cell.
    >> Well I am off to educate myself.
    >>

    >
    > I got a cold sales call to my Verizon numbered Alltel phone this
    > afternoon. The number in Caller ID showed 386-615-8312, which is an
    > exchange in Daytona Beach the caller said was from some "Editor's
    > something-or-other", of course asking for personal information.
    > Google finds nothing at this number, of course, and it always answers
    > busy. Switchboard.com has no listing and there's no such company to
    > find.
    >
    > Maybe the spambots on Usenet can get through 386-615-8312.....(c;


    I don't know which congress critter put forth the ideathat cold calls are
    protected as "free speech" but I'll bet he got a big pile of dough.
    Bob

    --￾
    --￾
    Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
    www.moondoggiecoffee.com
  15. xroc

    xroc Guest

    Larry wrote:
    > "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
    > news:BP7Cg.12152$hj4.5367@trnddc03:
    >
    >
    >>Now business are not supposed to cold call
    >>your cell phone but now they are crying that number portability means
    >>that they don't know if it's a cell.
    >>Well I am off to educate myself.
    >>

    >
    >
    > I got a cold sales call to my Verizon numbered Alltel phone this afternoon.
    > The number in Caller ID showed 386-615-8312, which is an exchange in
    > Daytona Beach the caller said was from some "Editor's something-or-other",
    > of course asking for personal information. Google finds nothing at this
    > number, of course, and it always answers busy. Switchboard.com has no
    > listing and there's no such company to find.
    >
    > Maybe the spambots on Usenet can get through 386-615-8312.....(c;
    >


    You might want to consider the possibility that it was a spoofed phone
    number which can be done now with Internet telephony, which is a growing
    problem.

    http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5627631.html

    FWIW,
    ROC
  16. GeorgeB

    GeorgeB Guest

    I'm not the OP, but as a point of reference ...

    I live in Greenville SC and have callerID through Charter
    Communications. My sister-in-law lives in Los Angeles and has a
    Verizon cell phone. Her calls to us, and only her calls to us (so
    far), show this "Unknown Caller" thing. Many cell users show names,
    but I don't know enough to identify providers ... EXCEPT one with
    Sprint does.

    On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:11:19 -0400, Cinderlane@webtv.net (Cinder Lane)
    wrote:

    >What country/city are you in? In the States, Caller ID identifies
    >Verizon's caller as being the city of the number's exchange.
    >
    >There is a difference between a blocked call (private call) and an
    >unknown caller. A "blocked call" is purposely initiated by the CALLER.
    >An "unknown caller" description is the fault of the CALLED party's
    >telco. It means that the local telco is not maintaining a cross-lookup
    >database. True, it's Verizon's choice that your NAME not be identified,
    >but it's the telco's fault that your CITY is not displayed.
  17. On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:48:08 -0400, GeorgeB <nospam@att.net> wrote:

    >I'm not the OP, but as a point of reference ...
    >
    >I live in Greenville SC and have callerID through Charter
    >Communications. My sister-in-law lives in Los Angeles and has a
    >Verizon cell phone. Her calls to us, and only her calls to us (so
    >far), show this "Unknown Caller" thing. Many cell users show names,
    >but I don't know enough to identify providers ... EXCEPT one with
    >Sprint does.


    Alltel shows names, at least in upstate SC. There was even a form in
    my last bill where I could change what CID name showed when I call
    from my phones.
  18. al

    al Guest

    > I'm not the OP, but as a point of reference ...
    >
    > I live in Greenville SC and have callerID through Charter
    > Communications. My sister-in-law lives in Los Angeles and has a
    > Verizon cell phone. Her calls to us, and only her calls to us (so
    > far), show this "Unknown Caller" thing. Many cell users show names,
    > but I don't know enough to identify providers ... EXCEPT one with
    > Sprint does.
    >


    So just add your sister-in-law to your contact list.When she calls
    whatever you have for her in the contact list will show up in your caller-
    id.

    --
  19. GeorgeB

    GeorgeB Guest

    On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:34:43 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
    <ghost@general.lee> wrote:

    >On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:48:08 -0400, GeorgeB <nospam@att.net> wrote:
    >
    >>I'm not the OP, but as a point of reference ...
    >>
    >>I live in Greenville SC and have callerID through Charter
    >>Communications. My sister-in-law lives in Los Angeles and has a
    >>Verizon cell phone. Her calls to us, and only her calls to us (so
    >>far), show this "Unknown Caller" thing. Many cell users show names,
    >>but I don't know enough to identify providers ... EXCEPT one with
    >>Sprint does.

    >
    >Alltel shows names, at least in upstate SC. There was even a form in
    >my last bill where I could change what CID name showed when I call
    >from my phones.


    I should have realized that; my calls home from my (Alltel) cell show
    my name. Haven't opened the bill that came last week, so don't know
    if that is there, but it probably is.

    Thanks for the details.
  20. N2

    N2 Guest

    "al" <myemail2@here.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns981D666FC2165123colds@216.196.97.136...
    >> I'm not the OP, but as a point of reference ...
    >>
    >> I live in Greenville SC and have callerID through Charter
    >> Communications. My sister-in-law lives in Los Angeles and has a
    >> Verizon cell phone. Her calls to us, and only her calls to us (so
    >> far), show this "Unknown Caller" thing. Many cell users show names,
    >> but I don't know enough to identify providers ... EXCEPT one with
    >> Sprint does.
    >>

    >
    > So just add your sister-in-law to your contact list.When she calls
    > whatever you have for her in the contact list will show up in your caller-
    > id.
    >


    OP here. That's the suggestion VZW had for me, but it's a bit tough to go
    to 100+ clients and ask them to somehow manually program their PBX's to show
    my company name when calling from my Treo.

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