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My voice echoes back

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by pb, Nov 2, 2003.

  1. Rebecca

    Rebecca Guest

    "Joe Burke" <abc@123.com> wrote in message
    news:MiHpb.47254$ZC4.45284@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
    > "Michael" <betterthanthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:3fa6a949$1_2@127.0.0.1...
    > > This also happens with my V60c phone. Maybe 1 out of 15 calls it happen.
    > > Also along with a loud buzzing sound that happens intermitently.
    > >
    > > "pb" <pb_public@operamail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:er0aqv0f7nk6733qicum55jcptbsg62gs7@4ax.com...
    > > > Occasionally when I make a call I will hear my own voice coming
    > > > back to me, delayed a few milliseconds. It happens with some
    > > > calls, but not with most, and makes conversing very difficult.
    > > >
    > > > I've been in contact with the techs. They've been checking the
    > > > lines/switches, but thus far haven't found a problem. I reported
    > > > another incident this week, and a tech VM'd me back to say the
    > > > only thing he could recommend was an equipment change.
    > > >
    > > > Though he was very vague, I take it he meant me changing my own
    > > > phone. He left no return number, so I called support back. I got
    > > > a woman who confidently claimed that this was a phone problem,
    > > > not a line problem, and I should buy a new phone.
    > > >
    > > > I have my doubts on that, and don't want to go through the
    > > > expense and effort to switch over my address book, etc.,
    > > > unnecessarily.
    > > >
    > > > Any insight would be appreciated.
    > > >
    > > > p.

    > >
    > >

    > I also have the same problem on my Moto v60p, and previously T720 and

    v120c.
    > (2 or 3 of each). Along with the echo I also get garbled transmissions
    > (digital static). They usually occur on the same tower, so I'm thinking

    this
    > could be a VZW problem.


    So... is it then maybe also a Motorola thing? I have had the same issue
    with v60p and v120c.

    Rebecca



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  2. pb

    pb Guest

    Al Klein wrote:

    > Keep complaining, keep accurate records of where you are
    > when the p-roblem occurs (street address, intersection, etc.) and the
    > exact time. That'll let them zero in on it. If the problem persists,
    > insist that it be escalated to Networking.


    It's been happening more, not less, lately. Today, virtually
    every call had echo. I reported it again and got the line that
    there's already a ticket on it, it's already in Networking,
    nothing more can be done, etc.

    At least the guy admitted that the previous woman was wrong about
    the phone necessarily being the cause. But if this continues I
    might consider a jump to another carrier.

    p.
  3. Joe Burke

    Joe Burke Guest

    "N9WOS" <n9wos@nobug.worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
    news:DZUpb.27256$Ec1.2495478@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > Larry, I know where there is an AT&T cell ANALOG switch and cell site
    > > equipment. All you are missing is the tower and antennas. Want to come

    > help
    > > me hook it up?

    >
    > If it's close to Indiana, could I get in on the deal?
    >
    >


    No, unfortunately its up in Northern NY. Its an AT&T Autoplex system. Also
    it is the property of my work, the State University of New York. It was
    previously owned by New York Telephone Mobile and decommissioned under NYNEX
    Mobile. Now known as Verizon Wireless.

    Joe
  4. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:52:51 -0500, "pb" <pb_public@operamail.com>
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >At least the guy admitted that the previous woman was wrong about
    >the phone necessarily being the cause. But if this continues I
    >might consider a jump to another carrier.


    Echo suppression is done at the end of the wire line. All carriers
    (must) do it, so you won't get away from it.
  5. pb

    pb Guest

    Al Klein wrote:

    >> if this continues I
    >> might consider a jump to another carrier.

    >
    > Echo suppression is done at the end of the wire line. All carriers
    > (must) do it, so you won't get away from it.


    Are you saying I would have the same problem with ATT, of
    necessity?

    p.
  6. About Dakota

    About Dakota Guest

    pb wrote:
    > Al Klein wrote:
    >
    >
    >>>if this continues I
    >>>might consider a jump to another carrier.

    >>
    >>Echo suppression is done at the end of the wire line. All carriers
    >>(must) do it, so you won't get away from it.

    >
    >
    > Are you saying I would have the same problem with ATT, of
    > necessity?
    >
    > p.


    One thing that I notice, is that GSM or TDMA hansets seem to have a
    higher voice quality than CDMA. I've used SE, Moto, Audiovox, Kyocera,
    and Nokia phones. I've used Cellular One West (Western Wireless),
    Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, AT&T, Hickory Tech, and Cingular. It seems
    that even with different phones on different carriers, CDMA still seems
    to have a "quiet" coversation that can be overheard from another party.
    Maybe it's not the same on expensive handsets, but TDMA and GSM, even
    while roaming, never seems to get these.

    While using Cingular TDMA, sometimes an echo was heard because the
    volume on the phone was too high, and the microphone would pick up what
    coming from the speaker. I could hear and echo of the other party's
    voice, and he could hear an echo of my voice. Once I figured out that
    volume was to blame, I never again had that problem.

    AD
  7. N9WOS

    N9WOS Guest

    > No, unfortunately its up in Northern NY. Its an AT&T Autoplex system. Also
    > it is the property of my work, the State University of New York. It was
    > previously owned by New York Telephone Mobile and decommissioned under

    NYNEX
    > Mobile. Now known as Verizon Wireless.
    >
    > Joe


    Dang.....(mumbles to himself) everyone else gets the good toys to play with!
    :)
  8. Joe Burke

    Joe Burke Guest

    "N9WOS" <n9wos@nobug.worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
    news:Azjqb.207032$0v4.16338424@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > No, unfortunately its up in Northern NY. Its an AT&T Autoplex system.

    Also
    > > it is the property of my work, the State University of New York. It was
    > > previously owned by New York Telephone Mobile and decommissioned under

    > NYNEX
    > > Mobile. Now known as Verizon Wireless.
    > >
    > > Joe

    >
    > Dang.....(mumbles to himself) everyone else gets the good toys to play

    with!
    > :)
    >
    >


    I would play with it if I could find a manual. Anybody know where I can find
    one?
  9. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:17:59 -0500, "pb" <pb_public@operamail.com>
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Al Klein wrote:
    >
    >>> if this continues I
    >>> might consider a jump to another carrier.

    >>
    >> Echo suppression is done at the end of the wire line. All carriers
    >> (must) do it, so you won't get away from it.

    >
    >Are you saying I would have the same problem with ATT, of
    >necessity?


    Not of necessity, but AT&T also uses echo suppressors - the same kind
    Verizon uses.
  10. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:45:39 -0600, About Dakota
    <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >One thing that I notice, is that GSM or TDMA hansets seem to have a
    >higher voice quality than CDMA. I've used SE, Moto, Audiovox, Kyocera,
    >and Nokia phones. I've used Cellular One West (Western Wireless),
    >Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, AT&T, Hickory Tech, and Cingular. It seems
    >that even with different phones on different carriers, CDMA still seems
    >to have a "quiet" coversation that can be overheard from another party.


    That's more a function of crosstalk in wires, not over the air,
    although ...

    > Maybe it's not the same on expensive handsets


    I suppose cheap handsets could have problems. But CDMA, being subject
    to cell overload, might be more prone to some kind of radio crosstalk
    than TDMA. (The air interface for GSM is TDMA.)

    >but TDMA and GSM, even while roaming, never seems to get these.


    Roaming would have nothing to do with it.

    >While using Cingular TDMA, sometimes an echo was heard because the
    >volume on the phone was too high, and the microphone would pick up what
    >coming from the speaker. I could hear and echo of the other party's
    >voice, and he could hear an echo of my voice. Once I figured out that
    >volume was to blame, I never again had that problem.


    That's one kind of echo. A bad echo suppressor causes another kind.
  11. Ben Skversky

    Ben Skversky Guest

    Does the echo only happen when you talk to Wally or Lumpy?


    "Eddie Haskel" <wiseguy@clever.com> wrote in message
    news:8_bpb.12457$5g1.9983@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
    > First off...IT IS NOT YOUR HANDSET!!!. The handset is full duplex (can not
    > hear itself). "sidetone" is created in the local switch. If your getting
    > echo its due to their equipment or the equipment at the terminating end.
    > Your equipment (cellular handset) is OK......Eddie
    > "pb" <pb_public@operamail.com> wrote in message
    > news:er0aqv0f7nk6733qicum55jcptbsg62gs7@4ax.com...
    > > Occasionally when I make a call I will hear my own voice coming
    > > back to me, delayed a few milliseconds. It happens with some
    > > calls, but not with most, and makes conversing very difficult.
    > >
    > > I've been in contact with the techs. They've been checking the
    > > lines/switches, but thus far haven't found a problem. I reported
    > > another incident this week, and a tech VM'd me back to say the
    > > only thing he could recommend was an equipment change.
    > >
    > > Though he was very vague, I take it he meant me changing my own
    > > phone. He left no return number, so I called support back. I got
    > > a woman who confidently claimed that this was a phone problem,
    > > not a line problem, and I should buy a new phone.
    > >
    > > I have my doubts on that, and don't want to go through the
    > > expense and effort to switch over my address book, etc.,
    > > unnecessarily.
    > >
    > > Any insight would be appreciated.
    > >
    > > p.

    >
    >

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