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new cellular license maps available online

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by XFF, Oct 14, 2003.

  1. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Guest

    US Cellular sold it's A-Side cellular licenses in FL and Southern GA to
    AT&T.


    "XFF" <xff@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:298d9cbf.0310132107.59960d7b@posting.google.com...
    > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
    >
    > There are now 7 regions available for your browsing pleasure. The
    > Southeast region (AR/LA/MS/AL/SC/GA/FL) just went online today. As
    > always, corrections and comments are welcome. (You don't need to
    > comment on the trade of FL/GA A-side markets from USCC to ATTWS.
    > We're well aware of this issue and will update the A-side map once the
    > two carriers reflect the change on their web sites.)
    >
    > PS: Work on the Midatlantic maps (TN/NC/KY/VA/WV/MD/DE) has begun and
    > they should be available within a couple of weeks.



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  2. Rich

    Rich Guest

    About Dakota wrote:
    >> These maps just show the cellular licenses. Cell phones also use PCS
    >> licenses. Sprint only uses PCS licenses - and thus you won't see them
    >> on any of those maps. Verizon uses mostly regular cellular liceses,
    >> but in some places (like Florida, Texas, and Wisconsin) they use a PCS
    >> license, so they aren't reflected on the Florida map.
    >>
    >> Rich
    >>

    >
    > Here is just a simple question that I have never thought of before. How
    > many bands are in the 800 mHz frequency? I always thought there were
    > only spectrum licences for A and B. However, in my market, there is A
    > side run by Western Wireless d/b/a CellularOne, and B side run by
    > CommNet Cellular Partnership LLC d/b/a Verizon Wireless. However, there
    > is also Extend America "Powered by Nextel" that will also be going live
    > anytime now. I was wondering, how do the spectrum licenses work for
    > Nextel? If I'm not mistaken, Nextel's iDEN network is in the 800 mHz band.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > AD
    >


    There is more space in the whole 800 mHz band than just the cellular
    frequences. Nextel uses the SMR band to run their phones.

    Rich
  3. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Can you briefly explain "A" Side, "B" Side?

    TIA,
    B

    On 13 Oct 2003 22:07:50 -0700, xff@austin.rr.com (XFF) wrote:

    >http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
    >
    >There are now 7 regions available for your browsing pleasure. The
    >Southeast region (AR/LA/MS/AL/SC/GA/FL) just went online today. As
    >always, corrections and comments are welcome. (You don't need to
    >comment on the trade of FL/GA A-side markets from USCC to ATTWS.
    >We're well aware of this issue and will update the A-side map once the
    >two carriers reflect the change on their web sites.)
    >
    >PS: Work on the Midatlantic maps (TN/NC/KY/VA/WV/MD/DE) has begun and
    >they should be available within a couple of weeks.
  4. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Unfortuneately there is always an asshole in every group!


    On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:20:31 -0000, TomZ@blahblah.com (Tom Z) wrote:

    >What a stupid website. Thanks for wasting my time. That thing looks
    >like something from AOL's hometown website server.
    >
    >
    >
    >[posted via phonescoop.com]
  5. Hopper

    Hopper Guest

    "About Dakota" <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3F8CE717.7000008@REMOVEMEhotmail.com...

    > Here is just a simple question that I have never thought of before. How
    > many bands are in the 800 mHz frequency? I always thought there were
    > only spectrum licences for A and B. However, in my market, there is A
    > side run by Western Wireless d/b/a CellularOne, and B side run by
    > CommNet Cellular Partnership LLC d/b/a Verizon Wireless. However, there
    > is also Extend America "Powered by Nextel" that will also be going live
    > anytime now. I was wondering, how do the spectrum licenses work for
    > Nextel? If I'm not mistaken, Nextel's iDEN network is in the 800 mHz

    band.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > AD
    >


    806 to 809.75 is specilized mobile radio. 809-816 is a mess of interleaved
    business radio, public safety, industrual radio, and SMR. SMR and public
    safety each get 70 channels in within that range. 816 to 821 is "Upper 200
    SMR". Nearly everything other than public safety radio in the 800 range is
    licensed by Nextel. Cellular starts at 824 with A side.

    Then, there's a repeat of everything for the downlink side, starting at 851
    mhz. There is a little bit of Ground to Air, but I don't know the use of
    that, from 849 mhz to 851 mhz.

    So you have:
    General SMR (Nextel)
    Public safety
    BILT (Nextel)
    Upper 200 SMR (Nextel)
    Ground to Air
    Cellular A
    Cellular B

    There might be more than that too, as I think there some stuff above 880.

    Hopper
  6. XFF

    XFF Guest

    "Arthur Dent" <n@n.biz> wrote in message news:<EaidnRBie9RhkBCiRVn-vg@comcast.com>...
    > US Cellular sold it's A-Side cellular licenses in FL and Southern GA to
    > AT&T.
    >
    >
    > "XFF" <xff@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:298d9cbf.0310132107.59960d7b@posting.google.com...
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
    > >
    > > There are now 7 regions available for your browsing pleasure. The
    > > Southeast region (AR/LA/MS/AL/SC/GA/FL) just went online today. As
    > > always, corrections and comments are welcome. (You don't need to
    > > comment on the trade of FL/GA A-side markets from USCC to ATTWS.
    > > We're well aware of this issue and will update the A-side map once the
    > > two carriers reflect the change on their web sites.)
    > >
    > > PS: Work on the Midatlantic maps (TN/NC/KY/VA/WV/MD/DE) has begun and
    > > they should be available within a couple of weeks.


    Did you read what you quoted?
  7. TomZ@blahblah.com (Tom Z) wrote in message news:<vooq4vdpo4usc9@corp.supernews.com>...
    > What a stupid website. Thanks for wasting my time. That thing looks
    > like something from AOL's hometown website server.
    >
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]




    You're a turd... what have you ever done? I think these maps are
    actually fairly useful!

    -Tom
  8. XFF

    XFF Guest

    The Drifter <drifter@msn.com> wrote in message news:<12gpovsfi38nn5fk1r1tkn823amlt24l6p@4ax.com>...

    > I live in FL and took a look at that area on the maps for 'B' side, it
    > shows central west cost as ALLTEL [yellow zone] I have Verizon as my
    > carrier with a LG VX4400 phone, so what does this map tell me? Am I
    > actually using alltel's network and not verizon's? or does this only
    > mean for analog [amps] service? The phone is a tri-mode phone, and is
    > usually always getting a 1x signal on it's display, I believe that
    > means PCS service.


    In the US, commercial mobile telephony serivce is licensed to operate
    in 3 different bands of the spectrum: SMR, cellular, and PCS. The
    maps I'm creating only reflect cellular licenses. Your phone is also
    capable of operating in the PCS band. There are 2 cellular licenses
    and 6 PCS licenses in any given area. Commercial SMR service is
    pretty much monopolized by Nextel. For more detailed information on
    the various bands see http://tk.com/wireless/.

    In your case, VZW has a built-out PCS license (B-band) in your market
    (see http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/vzw_pcs_block.html), so
    according to the priority set by the PRL, your phone will prefer the
    VZW PCS service. If that's not available it would choose the ALLTEL
    B-side cellular service next, and if that's not available it would
    choose the ATTWS A-side cellular service (see
    http://www.justalurker.com).
  9. In article <yZcjb.775629$YN5.758895@sccrnsc01>, Hopper wrote:

    > 806 to 809.75 is specilized mobile radio. 809-816 is a mess of interleaved
    > business radio, public safety, industrual radio, and SMR. SMR and public

    <snip>

    Also, SMR is mostly licensed on an individual site and individual
    frequency basis, as opposed to the geographic/band basis used for cellular
    and PCS. (Some frequencies were auctioned/licensed on a somewhat
    geographic basis; see http://tk.com/wireless/ for more details)

    Doing a map of where Nextel (incl. Extend America) has licenses is rather
    difficult, as such a map would show thousands of of individual cell sites
    (*ALL* individual Nextel sites are in the FCC ULS database!) instead of
    nice, clear-cut geographic regions like with cellular and PCS. Nextel's
    own coverage maps are quite reliable -- actually a bit conservative -- and
    are really the best source to see where they have coverage.

    -SC
    --
    Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/
    ....
    "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might
    be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune
  10. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Guest

    "XFF" <xff@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:298d9cbf.0310150715.18da02cc@posting.google.com...

    > Did you read what you quoted?


    D'oh! Sorry for that...
  11. John

    John Guest

    What exactly do these maps represent?
  12. XFF

    XFF Guest

    "John" <JohnSmith4321@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<JUIkb.12759$2v6.6257@news01.roc.ny>...

    > What exactly do these maps represent?


    They represent who holds the two licenses for cellular service in any
    given market. You could also look at it as a superset of cellular
    coverage. There are some licensed areas with no coverage, but
    coverage only exists within licensed areas of any given carrier.

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