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New Fee's ?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Kevin Weaver, Feb 6, 2004.

  1. "Roger Binns" <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote in message
    news:iqckf1-9tt.ln1@home.rogerbinns.com...
    >
    > > Also, I would guess WLNP is a number of large fixed costs, not an
    > > actual cost to them of ~45 cents per individual number.

    >
    > In that case why doesn't the fee come down as the number of subscribers
    > goes up?
    >
    > Personally I think this is just "another add several hundred million" to
    > the bottom line scam.
    >
    > It isn't quite as bad as my landline which has 10 (yes ten) taxes and
    > charges which are 122% of my actual charge for service. I don't even
    > use the stupid service and only have it for DSL. (Service is $5.70 per
    > month, taxes and charges are another $7).
    >
    > For the curious, this is what SBC California puts on your landline bill:
    >
    > Federal subscriber line charge
    > Number portability service charge
    > 911 emergency service
    > CA high cost fund surcharge A
    > CA high cost fund surcharge A
    > Universal lifeline telephone service surcharge
    > Rate surcharge
    > State regulatory fee
    > Federal universal service fee
    > Federal tax
    >


    And for those who think this is enough to get out of a contract, here are
    two pertinent sections of the Service Agreement:

    "Our Rights To Make Changes
    Your service is subject to our business policies, practices, and procedures,
    which we can change without notice. WE CAN ALSO CHANGE PRICES AND ANY OTHER
    TERMS IN THIS AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME BY GIVING YOU WRITTEN NOTICE PRIOR TO
    THE BILLING PERIOD IN WHICH THE CHANGES WOULD GO INTO EFFECT. IF YOU CHOOSE
    TO USE YOUR SERVICE AFTER THAT POINT, YOU'RE ACCEPTING THE CHANGES. IF THE
    CHANGES HAVE A MATERIAL ADVERSE EFFECT ON YOU, HOWEVER, YOU CAN END THE
    AFFECTED SERVICE, WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE, JUST BY CALLING US
    WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL WHEN THE CHANGES GO INTO EFFECT."

    and

    "We also charge monthly fees (such as universal service and regulatory fees)
    related to our governmental costs. These recurring fees aren't required by
    law and are subject to change."

    Sounds like you have to move pretty quick if you want out.



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  2. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 04:59:42 -0800, "Roger Binns"
    <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I didn't know if you could waive the right to port your number. I suspect
    >the actual regulations say something about it. If the scenario is allowed,
    >then they could up the monthly charge to $5 as a big incentive to people
    >to take numbers they can't port.


    Or they could just charge whatever it costs if you want to port.
  3. "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
    news:buig205p5gh93hpbokpndam3c44lh6qi7e@Pern.rk...

    >
    > Or they could just charge whatever it costs if you want to port.


    Which is the way they should all do it.
  4. mark devoll

    mark devoll Guest

    i have a charge from the city i live in on my cell. i think it is 5 dollars
    a month per line. what crap.
    "Roger Binns" <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote in message
    news:iqckf1-9tt.ln1@home.rogerbinns.com...
    > Michael Kincaid wrote:
    > > On 2004-02-08 20:38:52 -0800, "Roger Binns" <rogerb@rogerbinns.com>
    > > said:
    > >
    > > > Are they allowed to waive the fee if you waive your right to port the
    > > > number?

    > >
    > > They're allowed to do whatever they want, since it's them that collects
    > > the fee... but I doubt it.

    >
    > I didn't know if you could waive the right to port your number. I suspect
    > the actual regulations say something about it. If the scenario is

    allowed,
    > then they could up the monthly charge to $5 as a big incentive to people
    > to take numbers they can't port.
    >
    > > Also, I would guess WLNP is a number of large fixed costs, not an
    > > actual cost to them of ~45 cents per individual number.

    >
    > In that case why doesn't the fee come down as the number of subscribers
    > goes up?
    >
    > Personally I think this is just "another add several hundred million" to
    > the bottom line scam.
    >
    > It isn't quite as bad as my landline which has 10 (yes ten) taxes and
    > charges which are 122% of my actual charge for service. I don't even
    > use the stupid service and only have it for DSL. (Service is $5.70 per
    > month, taxes and charges are another $7).
    >
    > For the curious, this is what SBC California puts on your landline bill:
    >
    > Federal subscriber line charge
    > Number portability service charge
    > 911 emergency service
    > CA high cost fund surcharge A
    > CA high cost fund surcharge A
    > Universal lifeline telephone service surcharge
    > Rate surcharge
    > State regulatory fee
    > Federal universal service fee
    > Federal tax
    >
    > Roger
    >
    >
    >

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