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NEWS: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by PDA Man, Nov 21, 2003.

  1. PDA Man

    PDA Man Guest

    Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!

    Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied recent
    merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move would
    create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.

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  2. Bill Roland

    Bill Roland Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    merger/aquisition.


    "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message
    news:SMWdnfRz-qzkIiOiRVn-vw@comcast.com...
    > Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    > Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    > news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    > year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    > merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    > Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied

    recent
    > merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    > are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move

    would
    > create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
    >
    > SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
    >

    Required)http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.html?s=69l,4a8a,8mg,d3r5,gvx7,5kmr
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  3. Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    National companies
    Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    degrading service levels.
    But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    combined.


    "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message
    news:SMWdnfRz-qzkIiOiRVn-vw@comcast.com...
    > Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    > Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    > news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    > year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    > merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    > Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied

    recent
    > merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    > are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move

    would
    > create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
    >
    > SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
    >

    Required)http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.html?s=69l,4a8a,8mg,d3r5,gvx7,5kmr
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  4. Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    "Bill Roland" <donotspammeplease@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
    > I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    > merger/aquisition.


    The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
    least two competitors.

    If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
    out of its misery,
    if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
    number portability.
     
  5. Aboutdakota

    Aboutdakota Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
    > Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    > National companies
    > Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    > degrading service levels.
    > But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    > combined.


    I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
    sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
    Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
    have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
    a CDMA phone from Verizon.

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  6. Aboutdakota

    Aboutdakota Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    Steven M. Scharf wrote:
    > "Bill Roland" <donotspammeplease@cox.net> wrote in message
    > news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
    >
    >>I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    >>merger/aquisition.

    >
    >
    > The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
    > least two competitors.
    >
    > If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
    > out of its misery,
    > if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
    > number portability.


    Actually, the Verizon/Sprint would be more complicated than one would
    think. Verizon Communications would want to remain in control, but in
    the event of a Verizon Wireless/Sprint PCS merger, if Vodafone acquired
    Sprint PCS to contribute to the venture, it would now have control of
    Verizon Wireless. If that happened, it would probably become Vodafone,
    and a switch to from CDMA2000 1x EV-DO to W-CDMA would probably happen.
    Plus, I think a huge overlay of GSM would happen.

    Now, for a Cingular/ATTWS merger, it might not be as complicated. There
    doesn't seem to be the tensions between SBC and BellSouth that there are
    between Verizon Communications and Vodafone. I'm not sure how Cingular
    would divvy up assets, whether between SBC and BellSouth, or whether
    AT&T would come as a third player in the Cingular venture...

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  7. Terry Knab

    Terry Knab Guest


    > I live in a Western Wireless market, and I have heard rumours that
    > Cingular was interested in Western Wireless, but that Verizon Wireless
    > took legal action against it because of spectrum. Western Wireless
    > would make a good addition to any of the larger carriers.
    >
    > The feds might allow an AT&T Wireless / Cingular merger. With rumours
    > that AT&T wants to change its name, and AT&T degrading services, it just
    > might be possible. Plus, AT&T operates in many of the same markets that


    Actually, WW and Cingular would be a good marriage. There's no problem with
    bandwith because WW and Cingular do NOT compete in most markets. There are
    13 states in which Cingular has no coverage at all. WW was the company who
    started VoiceStream (yes, they started it)

    In those 13 states, WW has a HUGE footprint and could easily be a great
    target for Cingular (although the population is primarily rural), but would
    give them access to their own network and not paying WW for roaming (And WW
    is running 3 standards now, that's gotta eat a lot of unused bandwidth)
     
  8. Richard Ness

    Richard Ness Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    You line in an area that is an exception....

    In most areas of the country it is the EXACT opposite.
    Example: out west Cingular SUCKS really badly.
    VZW kicks their ass, hands down. NO contest.


    "Aboutdakota" <aboutdakota@hot-mail.com> wrote in message news:3FBFA253.9000700@hot-mail.com...
    >
    >
    > Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
    > > Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    > > National companies
    > > Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    > > degrading service levels.
    > > But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    > > combined.

    >
    > I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
    > sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
    > Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
    > have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
    > a CDMA phone from Verizon.
    >
    > AD
    >
     
  9. Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    Classic argument guys..

    Every cell provider sucks somewhere - It's wireless - It will never be 100%

    I guess the best guidance is find a provider that works good in your area
    and is affordable.

    Where I live Nextel is the best coverage but they are just too damn
    expensive...Verizon is a close second in coverage but, again, too
    expensive..



    > You line in an area that is an exception....
    >
    > In most areas of the country it is the EXACT opposite.
    > Example: out west Cingular SUCKS really badly.
    > VZW kicks their ass, hands down. NO contest.
    >
    >
    > "Aboutdakota" <aboutdakota@hot-mail.com> wrote in message
    > news:3FBFA253.9000700@hot-mail.com...
    >>
    >>
    >> Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
    >>> Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    >>> National companies
    >>> Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    >>> degrading service levels.
    >>> But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    >>> combined.

    >>
    >> I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
    >> sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
    >> Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
    >> have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
    >> a CDMA phone from Verizon.
    >>
    >> AD
    >>

    >
    >
     
  10. Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    I personally have not seen this rumor anyplace but here, but it does make
    sence. About a year or two ago T-Mobile was in talks with Cingular to merge.
    Also the way AT&T is going in this area, I don't think they want to be
    bought out by anyone. They seem to be moving strong. If I had to make a
    guess, I would say it is T-Mobile.

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    "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message
    news:SMWdnfRz-qzkIiOiRVn-vw@comcast.com...
    > Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    > Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    > news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    > year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    > merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    > Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied

    recent
    > merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    > are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move

    would
    > create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
    >
    > SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
    >

    Required)http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.html?s=69l,4a8a,8mg,d3r5,gvx7,5kmr
    > ,bqzq
    >
    > Visit Wireless World at http://wirelessway.blogspot.com for the latest in
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  11. Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:02:06 GMT, "Steven M. Scharf"
    <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote:

    >
    >"Bill Roland" <donotspammeplease@cox.net> wrote in message
    >news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
    >> I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    >> merger/aquisition.

    >
    >The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
    >least two competitors.
    >

    The "feds" also broke up AT&T back in '84. They wont allow a merger
    between Cingular and AT&T, it would destroy T-Mobile.
     
  12. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
    news:2MLvb.9439>
    > If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
    > out of its misery,


    Well if Verizon bought SPCS, then it wouldn't get the entire Sprint network
    as much of the network outside the biggest markets is not owned by Sprint
    but smaller affiliates like Alamosa PCS, Ubiquitel, US Unwired, etc. A SPCS
    buyout would kill the smaller guys and millions of folks who used to have
    "Sprint" would then have nothing. I don't think Sprint PCS will ever be
    part of another company unless some company were to buy both Sprint PCS and
    the other Sprint divisions.
     
  13. Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    Aboutdakota wrote:

    > Actually, the Verizon/Sprint would be more complicated than one would
    > think. Verizon Communications would want to remain in control, but in
    > the event of a Verizon Wireless/Sprint PCS merger, if Vodafone acquired
    > Sprint PCS to contribute to the venture, it would now have control of
    > Verizon Wireless. If that happened, it would probably become Vodafone,
    > and a switch to from CDMA2000 1x EV-DO to W-CDMA would probably happen.


    Verizon Communications will not give up control of Verizon Wireless.
    It won't happen. It is their future growth vehicle. If SprintPCS was
    acquired for Verizon Wireless, it would be acquired by Verizon
    Wireless partnership, not by Vodafone. Verizon Comm. would not allow
    Vodafone to "contribute" anything to the partnership that would give
    Vodafone control.

    Verizon Communications is quite comfortable with the situation as it
    stands, but would be willing to buy out Vodafone, if necessary.
    Vodafone is the party that is evidently unhappy with the current
    situation. There is nothing they can arbitrarity do to wrest control
    from Verizon Communications. If they wish to control a wireless
    carrier in the U.S., they will need to divest their 45% of VZW and
    pick up a different carrier.

    In short, if there is to be a Vodafone Wireless in the U.S., it will
    be competing with Verizon Wireless, not replacing it.
     
  14. Bill Roland

    Bill Roland Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    So that's the Verizon company line...


    "J on the phone" <617@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
    news:594e5d58.0311232318.7b558513@posting.google.com...
    > Aboutdakota wrote:
    >
    > > Actually, the Verizon/Sprint would be more complicated than one would
    > > think. Verizon Communications would want to remain in control, but in
    > > the event of a Verizon Wireless/Sprint PCS merger, if Vodafone acquired
    > > Sprint PCS to contribute to the venture, it would now have control of
    > > Verizon Wireless. If that happened, it would probably become Vodafone,
    > > and a switch to from CDMA2000 1x EV-DO to W-CDMA would probably happen.

    >
    > Verizon Communications will not give up control of Verizon Wireless.
    > It won't happen. It is their future growth vehicle. If SprintPCS was
    > acquired for Verizon Wireless, it would be acquired by Verizon
    > Wireless partnership, not by Vodafone. Verizon Comm. would not allow
    > Vodafone to "contribute" anything to the partnership that would give
    > Vodafone control.
    >
    > Verizon Communications is quite comfortable with the situation as it
    > stands, but would be willing to buy out Vodafone, if necessary.
    > Vodafone is the party that is evidently unhappy with the current
    > situation. There is nothing they can arbitrarity do to wrest control
    > from Verizon Communications. If they wish to control a wireless
    > carrier in the U.S., they will need to divest their 45% of VZW and
    > pick up a different carrier.
    >
    > In short, if there is to be a Vodafone Wireless in the U.S., it will
    > be competing with Verizon Wireless, not replacing it.
     
  15. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <2MLvb.9439$sb4.2780@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> on Sat, 22 Nov 2003
    16:02:06 GMT, "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote:

    >... AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
    >number portability.


    Funny how you change your tune:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    From: "Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net>
    Newsgroups: alt.cellular.cingular
    Subject: Re: NEWS: Get Ready for a Wireless Carrier War
    Message-ID: <5Ve6b.1102$Yt.944@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>
    Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 06:12:17 GMT

    Actually, all the predictions are that Verizon and T-Moble will be
    the big winners. I.e. see:

    "http://taipeitimes.com/News/bizfocus/archives/2003/08/31/2003066000"

    Winners: Verizon and T-Mobile
    Losers: Cingular, AT&T Wireless, Sprint PCS, Nextel

    This is just one of many similar predictions.

    ....
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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  16. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <n7h2svgs7idt8j4eqlu2f8j9b63fqcuhfq@4ax.com> on Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:38:31
    GMT, "mjohnson@att.net" <Michelle Johnson> wrote:

    >On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:02:06 GMT, "Steven M. Scharf"
    ><scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote:
    >
    >>"Bill Roland" <donotspammeplease@cox.net> wrote in message
    >>news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
    >>> I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    >>> merger/aquisition.

    >>
    >>The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
    >>least two competitors.
    >>

    >The "feds" also broke up AT&T back in '84. They wont allow a merger
    >between Cingular and AT&T, it would destroy T-Mobile.


    The "feds" don't care about T-Mobile -- it's not domestic.

    --
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  17. Bill Roland

    Bill Roland Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    What an idiotic statement. You think that because a German company owns
    T-Mobile, that the government doesn't have a say-so in what they do or
    doesn't care about what they are doing? Let me answer that one for you:
    wrong.


    "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
    news:lqczb.464$XF6.12002@typhoon.sonic.net...
    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <n7h2svgs7idt8j4eqlu2f8j9b63fqcuhfq@4ax.com> on Sun, 23 Nov 2003

    23:38:31
    > GMT, "mjohnson@att.net" <Michelle Johnson> wrote:
    >
    > >On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:02:06 GMT, "Steven M. Scharf"
    > ><scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote:
    > >
    > >>"Bill Roland" <donotspammeplease@cox.net> wrote in message
    > >>news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
    > >>> I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    > >>> merger/aquisition.
    > >>
    > >>The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still

    at
    > >>least two competitors.
    > >>

    > >The "feds" also broke up AT&T back in '84. They wont allow a merger
    > >between Cingular and AT&T, it would destroy T-Mobile.

    >
    > The "feds" don't care about T-Mobile -- it's not domestic.
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
     
  18. WAW

    WAW Guest

    I think that if anything happens, it will be a Cingular/AT&T Wireless
    deal. Here's what I see AT&T Wireless doing to make themselves
    attractive (off the top of my head):

    -Dropping their IT Payroll down to almost zilch. Brings up the
    profitability.
    -Selling off all overseas stakes in other providers. Ditto.
    -Recent focus in financials on profitability. They've moved from
    "here's how many new people we're getting" to "here's how much we're
    making per subscriber".

    I also found it interesting that Rogers in Canada will be dropping the
    "AT&T" from their name, again some time in mid '04.

    Finally, I think it would be easier to work around NTT's 16% stake in
    AWE than D. Telekom's hold on TMobile.

    "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message news:<SMWdnfRz-qzkIiOiRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
    > Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    > Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    > news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    > year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    > merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    > Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied recent
    > merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    > are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move would
    > create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
    >
    > SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
    > Required)http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.html?s=69l,4a8a,8mg,d3r5,gvx7,5kmr
    > ,bqzq
    >
    > Visit Wireless World at http://wirelessway.blogspot.com for the latest in
    > Wireless Technology News and Info! Free Drawing for Aluminum Palm /Clie
    > case!!
     
  19. Cyrus Afzali

    Cyrus Afzali Guest

    On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 04:57:45 GMT, Melee <melee@optonline.net> wrote:

    >On 4 Dec 2003 10:32:24 -0800, whatawhiner@Mailinator.com (WAW) wrote:
    >
    >>I think that if anything happens, it will be a Cingular/AT&T Wireless
    >>deal. Here's what I see AT&T Wireless doing to make themselves
    >>attractive (off the top of my head):
    >>
    >>-Dropping their IT Payroll down to almost zilch. Brings up the
    >>profitability.
    >>-Selling off all overseas stakes in other providers. Ditto.
    >>-Recent focus in financials on profitability. They've moved from
    >>"here's how many new people we're getting" to "here's how much we're
    >>making per subscriber".
    >>
    >>I also found it interesting that Rogers in Canada will be dropping the
    >>"AT&T" from their name, again some time in mid '04.
    >>
    >>Finally, I think it would be easier to work around NTT's 16% stake in
    >>AWE than D. Telekom's hold on TMobile.

    >
    >The government would never allow AT&T and Cingular to merge. It would
    >destroy T-Mobile leaving them to brought out and then after, there
    >will be one GSM provider in the country - a monopoly.


    Not really. The government doesn't use technology to determine a
    monopoly. The fact is there are seven nationwide cellular carriers.
    The technology they use is irrelevant and with seven there's no way a
    consolidation of two would be considered a monopoly.

    If the government allowed Comcast to swallow up AT&T Broadband,
    there's no way in hell they'd stop amerger of Cingular and AT&T
    Wireless. Cable modem users rarely have a choice in terms of
    ISPs/cable providers. Contrast that to cell service which has the most
    options of any consumer telecommunications service around.
     
  20. Melee

    Melee Guest

    On 4 Dec 2003 10:32:24 -0800, whatawhiner@Mailinator.com (WAW) wrote:

    >I think that if anything happens, it will be a Cingular/AT&T Wireless
    >deal. Here's what I see AT&T Wireless doing to make themselves
    >attractive (off the top of my head):
    >
    >-Dropping their IT Payroll down to almost zilch. Brings up the
    >profitability.
    >-Selling off all overseas stakes in other providers. Ditto.
    >-Recent focus in financials on profitability. They've moved from
    >"here's how many new people we're getting" to "here's how much we're
    >making per subscriber".
    >
    >I also found it interesting that Rogers in Canada will be dropping the
    >"AT&T" from their name, again some time in mid '04.
    >
    >Finally, I think it would be easier to work around NTT's 16% stake in
    >AWE than D. Telekom's hold on TMobile.


    The government would never allow AT&T and Cingular to merge. It would
    destroy T-Mobile leaving them to brought out and then after, there
    will be one GSM provider in the country - a monopoly.
     

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