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news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by PDA Man, Sep 24, 2003.

  1. John

    John Guest

    That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
    service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
    whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a new
    car before you trade in your old one?


    "Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
    news:bkuj47$v4c@library2.airnews.net...
    > John wrote:
    > > One other question, come to think of it. Do you have to do the number

    port
    > > when you sign up? I'd be interested in trying out the phone and service

    for
    > > a few weeks before porting the number over and canceling the old

    service. I
    > > can only imagine how crappy it'd be to port the number over and then

    realize
    > > the thing doesn't work well.

    >
    >
    > Well, John, if you don't have some reasonable assurance that the grass
    > really is greener on the other side, why are you climbing the fence?
    >
    > --
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    > "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    > what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
    >



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  2. Jer

    Jer Guest

    John wrote:
    > That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
    > service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
    > whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a new
    > car before you trade in your old one?
    >



    Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
    enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
    I've got no business buying it. If I did decide to test drive, it'd
    have to be for at least a week or longer, certainly long enough to do
    a really swell road trip - and the only way that's gonna happen is to
    rent one similar enough to make it worthwhile. But that's about cars
    which have no returnability if it turns out I just don't like how it
    drives. Cingular offers a 14 day bail-out clause in all new
    contracts, but if it's a ported number, what'cha gonna do? port it
    back? I suppose you could. Or, you could rent a Cingular phone for a
    while until you've determined it's value - sorta like my vacation test
    drive in a rental.


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  3. Carl.

    Carl. Guest

    "Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
    news:bl05io$bck@library1.airnews.net...
    > John wrote:
    > > That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
    > > service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
    > > whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a

    new
    > > car before you trade in your old one?
    > >

    >
    >
    > Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
    > enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
    > I've got no business buying it.


    Well, that would be nice, but a sane person would want to see for themselves
    if they can keep their ass in the seat while driving, check the clutch
    functioning, make sure it doesn't ride to stiff or too soft, etc.

    You are brave indeed to make such a purchase decision based merely on spec
    sheets and word of mouth. I, on the other hand, am a chicken and prefer to
    see for myself of the car is a POS.


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  4. John

    John Guest

    "Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
    news:bl05io$bck@library1.airnews.net...
    > John wrote:
    > > That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
    > > service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
    > > whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a

    new
    > > car before you trade in your old one?

    >
    > Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
    > enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
    > I've got no business buying it. If I did decide to test drive, it'd
    > have to be for at least a week or longer, certainly long enough to do
    > a really swell road trip - and the only way that's gonna happen is to
    > rent one similar enough to make it worthwhile. But that's about cars
    > which have no returnability if it turns out I just don't like how it
    > drives. Cingular offers a 14 day bail-out clause in all new
    > contracts, but if it's a ported number, what'cha gonna do? port it
    > back? I suppose you could. Or, you could rent a Cingular phone for a
    > while until you've determined it's value - sorta like my vacation test
    > drive in a rental.


    The whole point is that I don't want to port my number, and then have to do
    it again because the coverage is unacceptable. Whether I rent a phone or
    buy it with the option of returning it within 14 days, I don't care.
    However, Cingular, or any other company, doesn't rent phones. I just want
    to make sure the coverage is acceptable in the areas I need it to be before
    I spend the time and effort to port my number. The alternative is to buy a
    phone, try it out for 2 weeks, and then return it. If the service is
    acceptable, then buy another phone, this time porting over the number at the
    outset. That's just more effort for me, and a money loser for the phone
    company.

    BTW, your vacation rental is the same thing as a test drive. The point is
    you actually got in that model and got the "feel" of it.
  5. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Guest

    "John" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
    news:QqOcnQeKab4sre-iU-KYgA@comcast.com...
    > Does anyone have an estimate on how long will it take from the first call

    to
    > when the number is completely transferred over?
    >

    Supposedly, cellco to cellco ports will take up to around 3 or 4 hours, not
    days or weeks. Landline to cellco ports, however, will take days, if it
    will really be possible in Nov. The port is done automagically thru
    different systems. I also hear there will be systems which will monitor the
    status of the port.
  6. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Guest

    "John Andrews" <GB1@Ureach.Com> wrote in message
    news:vn6490fv77a443@corp.supernews.com...
    > Exactly.. and why should they?
    >

    Because holding a number hostage will not lessen any carrier's chance of
    someone not paying a bill. If someone is going to run out, they will run
    out regardless.

    I doubt a carrier will be able to keep a number if any bill is not paid,
    since the carrier will not know that the customer is porting a number till
    it recieves a porting request from another carrier. After the port is
    complete the customer's account is still open, but without a number. If a
    bill or ETF needs to be paid, it will be settled after the number is ported
    out. Carriers have ways to get their money.
  7. Jer

    Jer Guest

    John wrote:


    > The whole point is that I don't want to port my number, and then have to do
    > it again because the coverage is unacceptable. Whether I rent a phone or
    > buy it with the option of returning it within 14 days, I don't care.
    > However, Cingular, or any other company, doesn't rent phones. I just want
    > to make sure the coverage is acceptable in the areas I need it to be before
    > I spend the time and effort to port my number. The alternative is to buy a
    > phone, try it out for 2 weeks, and then return it. If the service is
    > acceptable, then buy another phone, this time porting over the number at the
    > outset. That's just more effort for me, and a money loser for the phone
    > company.


    Well, there's your option. Get a new phone from Cingular, use it for
    14 day eval purposes. Then cancel. Make decision. Sorta like a
    girlfriend (or boyfriend), except in my book, they get 30 days.


    >
    > BTW, your vacation rental is the same thing as a test drive. The point is
    > you actually got in that model and got the "feel" of it.


    Yeah, it is the same thing, yet I've never actually done it - though
    that option is available to anyone.



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  8. Phill.

    Phill. Guest

    In article <bl1b2b$v4a@library1.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
    wrote:

    > Well, there's your option. Get a new phone from Cingular, use it for
    > 14 day eval purposes. Then cancel. Make decision. Sorta like a
    > girlfriend (or boyfriend), except in my book, they get 30 days.


    Except there a lots of charges. Likely you're into a 2nd billing period,
    for which they'll charge you in full, then there's the "nonrefundable"
    activation charge".

    Cellular companies all pull that trick. Start you with a full billing
    period one week in, so you'll get charged Extra if you quit after 14
    days.
  9. Jer

    Jer Guest

    Phill. wrote:

    > In article <bl1b2b$v4a@library1.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Well, there's your option. Get a new phone from Cingular, use it for
    >>14 day eval purposes. Then cancel. Make decision. Sorta like a
    >>girlfriend (or boyfriend), except in my book, they get 30 days.

    >
    >
    > Except there a lots of charges. Likely you're into a 2nd billing period,
    > for which they'll charge you in full, then there's the "nonrefundable"
    > activation charge".
    >
    > Cellular companies all pull that trick. Start you with a full billing
    > period one week in, so you'll get charged Extra if you quit after 14
    > days.



    Well, whoever said an education was free?

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    what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

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