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NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by PDA Man, Sep 24, 2003.

  1. xmichael.thaler@xmindspring.com (m thaler) wrote in message news:<vn4dqsmuuipia0@corp.supernews.com>...

    > This has been discussed many times.
    > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.


    Here they do :-(

    > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
    > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
    > line bill.


    What land line bill? I do not have a land line, so I do not have a
    land
    line bill. In anyway few people make land likne to cellular calls as
    they are more expensive than cellular to cellular.

    > What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
    > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
    > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
    > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
    > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.


    Ands what do they pay for those plans. In Finland average customer
    pays under 30 euros a month. Many pay much less. If you make few or no
    calls you can pay under 5 euros a month. There are unlimited plans
    also here though only intra-operator. They start from as low as 8.33
    a month (unlimited calls to a single number)

    In anyway the CPP does not prevent telemarketers form calling as the
    call costs only about 10 cents a minute to them if done properly (i.e.
    through appropriate mobile operator and not land to mobile.) The cost
    of
    labor is much higher, average in Finland or in EU is 37 cents a
    minute.
    So mobile numbers are just additional expense to them, nothing
    serious.

    >
    > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
    > lines entirely in favor of cel phones.


    Same here. Especially among young people land line is more
    like an exception. 92% of households have at least one cellular
    phone and only 68% have a landline. In 1990 the numbers were 7% and
    94%
    respectively. When young people here move out of home they simply keep
    their mobile and do nto get a land line. Landlines are expensive,
    about
    100 euros to start (not including labor and the actual phone) and
    over 10 euros a month. When one moves there is extra expense.

    > Others of us forward all calls
    > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
    > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
    >


    I see no point in such forwarding as people can call the cell phone
    directly from their own cell phones. This is often cheper than calling
    a landline. I a company wants, it can get here a number where such
    redirection is free. The caller (from a landline) pays different
    amount depending on whether the redirection is on.

    Osmo
     



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  2. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Osmo Ronkanen" <okaro@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:d0d3e7d9.0310010124.5e29021b@posting.google.com...
    > xmichael.thaler@xmindspring.com (m thaler) wrote in message

    news:<vn4dqsmuuipia0@corp.supernews.com>...
    >
    > > What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
    > > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
    > > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
    > > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
    > > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.

    >


    No way in heck. I was in the lower 48 states of the US and got a call from a
    telemarketer while I was roaming on a ship on a lake. I was billed .69
    (Sixty Nine Cents a minute!) for a frigging incoming call from a
    telemarketer while I was on vacation!

    Your numbers are probably for land line to land line, yet this was in a
    message about telemarketers calling a cellphone! Yes it's illegal to call
    someone on a cellphone, but if you are on vacation what the heck are you
    gonna do? I was 2847 miles from home and the verizon office I deal with.,
     
  3. "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102nospam@Hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bleukj$bnl3u$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de>...
    > No way in heck. I was in the lower 48 states of the US and got a call from a
    > telemarketer while I was roaming on a ship on a lake. I was billed .69
    > (Sixty Nine Cents a minute!) for a frigging incoming call from a
    > telemarketer while I was on vacation!
    >
    > Your numbers are probably for land line to land line, yet this was in a
    > message about telemarketers calling a cellphone!


    Those two cents are for huge plans when one uses them fully. Something
    like $100 for 5000 minutes.

    > Yes it's illegal to call
    > someone on a cellphone, but if you are on vacation what the heck are you
    > gonna do? I was 2847 miles from home and the verizon office I deal with.,


    Well here it is not illegal to telemarket to cell phones and if one
    is in, say, Spain it is about 50 cents a minute to receive calls.

    Osmo
     

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