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night & weekend minutes

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Vince01, Jun 10, 2004.

  1. Louise

    Louise Guest

    In article <cabkhv0140r@news3.newsguy.com>, hoch@exemplary.invalid
    says...
    > In article <UNayc.24922$wH4.1239180@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
    > Stan <stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >Not to nitpick, but be careful. Night minutes start at 9:01pm and weekend
    > >minutes start at 12:01am Saturday.
    > >
    > >Big difference for those of us who have made the mistake of making a 20
    > >minute call at exactly 9:00pm. Fortunately, I didn't go over quota that
    > >month.

    >
    > In many regions (such as San Fransisco, CA area), such a call would cost
    > you one minute of peak and 19 offpeak, as a "spanned" call. And yes,
    > I have the billing statements showing it.
    >

    I'm in NYC, Sometimes I get jealous of how "reasonable" and "fair"
    things are elsewhere - almost wistful

    Louise
     



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  2. Louise

    Louise Guest

    In article <cabkhv0140r@news3.newsguy.com>, hoch@exemplary.invalid
    says...
    > In article <UNayc.24922$wH4.1239180@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
    > Stan <stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >Not to nitpick, but be careful. Night minutes start at 9:01pm and weekend
    > >minutes start at 12:01am Saturday.
    > >
    > >Big difference for those of us who have made the mistake of making a 20
    > >minute call at exactly 9:00pm. Fortunately, I didn't go over quota that
    > >month.

    >
    > In many regions (such as San Fransisco, CA area), such a call would cost
    > you one minute of peak and 19 offpeak, as a "spanned" call. And yes,
    > I have the billing statements showing it.
    >

    I'm in NYC, Sometimes I get jealous of how "reasonable" and "fair"
    things are elsewhere - almost wistful

    Louise
     
  3. Louise

    Louise Guest

    In article <cabkhv0140r@news3.newsguy.com>, hoch@exemplary.invalid
    says...
    > In article <UNayc.24922$wH4.1239180@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
    > Stan <stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >Not to nitpick, but be careful. Night minutes start at 9:01pm and weekend
    > >minutes start at 12:01am Saturday.
    > >
    > >Big difference for those of us who have made the mistake of making a 20
    > >minute call at exactly 9:00pm. Fortunately, I didn't go over quota that
    > >month.

    >
    > In many regions (such as San Fransisco, CA area), such a call would cost
    > you one minute of peak and 19 offpeak, as a "spanned" call. And yes,
    > I have the billing statements showing it.
    >

    I'm in NYC, Sometimes I get jealous of how "reasonable" and "fair"
    things are elsewhere - almost wistful

    Louise
     
  4. Louise

    Louise Guest

    In article <cabkhv0140r@news3.newsguy.com>, hoch@exemplary.invalid
    says...
    > In article <UNayc.24922$wH4.1239180@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
    > Stan <stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >Not to nitpick, but be careful. Night minutes start at 9:01pm and weekend
    > >minutes start at 12:01am Saturday.
    > >
    > >Big difference for those of us who have made the mistake of making a 20
    > >minute call at exactly 9:00pm. Fortunately, I didn't go over quota that
    > >month.

    >
    > In many regions (such as San Fransisco, CA area), such a call would cost
    > you one minute of peak and 19 offpeak, as a "spanned" call. And yes,
    > I have the billing statements showing it.
    >

    I'm in NYC, Sometimes I get jealous of how "reasonable" and "fair"
    things are elsewhere - almost wistful

    Louise
     
  5. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  6. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  7. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  8. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  9. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  10. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  11. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  12. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  13. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  14. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  15. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  16. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  17. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  18. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  19. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     
  20. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b4034768d6c015298971c@news.newsguy.com
    > In article <2iu413Fqje86U1@uni-berlin.de>, Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com
    > says...
    >> "AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1b338dccd578304798978d@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net
    >>> In article <2isuslFra3s1U1@uni-berlin.de>,
    >>> Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com says...
    >>>> And here's another Nit to pick, it goes by local time on the phone.
    >>>> Just to confuse the heck out of things, If you have an older SRW
    >>>> contract/number based on the WEST coast (Pacific time) starting at
    >>>> 8:01PM, and travel to the boundary between MST and PST, and pick up
    >>>> a MST tower, with the time on the phone being an hour earlier than
    >>>> local time, you can actually get evening starting at 7:01PM :)
    >>>> (actually it will work at any time zone boundary, I just have
    >>>> personal experience with it between PST and MST)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well..... I was wonderring that and even called Verizon multiple
    >>> times and ask about it. Evrytime they claim that original plan area
    >>> time counts not local. Unfortunatelly I dont remember when I placed
    >>> my calls when I was on the east coast to verify that
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AP

    >>
    >> Be aware that there was a comma in the above sentence. I'll try and
    >> make it clearer. Since MST is 1 hour later than PST, you can be in a
    >> PST area (local time is 7:01) but picking up a MST tower (that will
    >> show 8:01 on the phone). It absolutely does go *BY THE TIME ON THE
    >> PHONE*, the point was it does NOT go by local time (if you are near
    >> a time zone boundary, it goes by the time shown on the phone, not
    >> the clock where you are at).
    >>
    >> For instance, when I was on the East Coast, I could call my friends
    >> in CA at 9:01 PM EST (time shown on the phone) for free, but if they
    >> answered or called me back, it was prime time for them (6:01PM PST),
    >> (and even if they answered, they had to pay for airtime). When my
    >> sister came to visit from the East coast (where she lived), she had
    >> to wait for 9:01 PM on her phone (local LA time) for free time to
    >> kick in, which unfortunately was after midnight for her friends back
    >> home on EST.
    >>
    >> Made talking hard. Nowadays, we suggest to our family and friends,
    >> calling on weekends when the time warp doesn't effect people's lives
    >> as much.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > One difference: if you have Verizon mobile-to-mobile minutes, you can
    > call anytwhere anytime, between to verizon phones, and pay abolsutily
    > nothing!
    >
    > Louise


    Mostly true, however if you go over you M2M time (in network is usually
    unlimited, but M2M was not), or if the calling or called party is NOT in a
    verizon or extended area (IE either are in roaming areas), it costs.
     

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