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No Big Promos yet?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by David, Nov 26, 2003.

  1. David

    David Guest

    With number portability upon us, I thought I'd see some decent promos by
    Verizon. Other companies seem to be doing more advertising and offering new
    or better plans, but nothing from V yet. Any idea why?
     



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  2. Diamond Dave

    Diamond Dave Guest

    Why would Verizon run promos? No need to!

    People can't wait to leave Cingular, T-Mobile and Sprint to go to
    Verizon! Hence that's why all the others are running all these promos
    (which if you look at the fine print are just expensive gimmicks, like
    the 7 PM N/W stuff). They want to hold on to their customers! Anything
    to keep them from jumping ship.

    Verizon and their Extended Network partners have a damn good network.
    Much better than most anyone else. AT&T Wireless (in TDMA) runs a
    close second IMHO. Can't say for their GSM network though.

    Dave

    On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:35:06 -0800, "David" <David@nospam.com> wrote:

    >With number portability upon us, I thought I'd see some decent promos by
    >Verizon. Other companies seem to be doing more advertising and offering new
    >or better plans, but nothing from V yet. Any idea why?
    >
     
  3. SHADO00

    SHADO00 Guest

    -> I thought I'd see some decent promos by Verizon.

    I think Verizon feels like the 800lbs Gorilla- and is content to rest on what
    they feel that they have, rather than continue to strive for better, gosh knows
    there is room for improvement- I think as we get closer to the holidays-- they
    will spring some promos- maybe launch some more phones before they have the
    software to support them- all things we expect from Verzion
     
  4. Frank S

    Frank S Guest

    > With number portability upon us, I thought I'd
    > see some decent promos by Verizon.


    You don't call the below a decent promo? I admit it doesn't suit me, but it
    is a decent promo.

    -Frank

    [From the VZW stie...]
    Talk as long as you want within
    your Family SharePlan

    Plus get Unlimited Night &
    Weekend Minutes

    All this includes 400 shared anytime minutes to use however you want when
    you sign up for 2 lines on America's Choicesm Family SharePlansm.

    Primary line is $39.99 monthly access; additional line is only $20 monthly
    access. 1- or 2-year Customer Agreement required.
     
  5. David

    David Guest

    That's nothing spectacular, it seems. 400 shared between two people for
    sixty bucks? Most of us here know that the average user will blow through
    those minutes in a hurry. When I spoke of promos, I meant large amounts of
    minutes or lowering of the night time rate or extending the weekends, etc.

    "Frank S" <Frank@REMOVEALLCAPSitcreek.com> wrote in message
    news:ZLadndNNN9x-s1iiRVn-hg@giganews.com...
    > > With number portability upon us, I thought I'd
    > > see some decent promos by Verizon.

    >
    > You don't call the below a decent promo? I admit it doesn't suit me, but

    it
    > is a decent promo.
    >
    > -Frank
    >
    > [From the VZW stie...]
    > Talk as long as you want within
    > your Family SharePlan
    >
    > Plus get Unlimited Night &
    > Weekend Minutes
    >
    > All this includes 400 shared anytime minutes to use however you want when
    > you sign up for 2 lines on America's Choicesm Family SharePlansm.
    >
    > Primary line is $39.99 monthly access; additional line is only $20 monthly
    > access. 1- or 2-year Customer Agreement required.
    >
    >
     
  6. Frank S

    Frank S Guest

    Here's another...

    Sign up on this promotional calling plan and you will receive 1000 Anytime
    minutes for a low price of $39.99!

    Admitedly, it's local. But hey... it's a promo!

    -Frank
    "David" <David@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:vsacvgsmbpk1ef@corp.supernews.com...
    > That's nothing spectacular, it seems. 400 shared between two people for
    > sixty bucks? Most of us here know that the average user will blow through
    > those minutes in a hurry. When I spoke of promos, I meant large amounts

    of
    > minutes or lowering of the night time rate or extending the weekends, etc.
    >
    > "Frank S" <Frank@REMOVEALLCAPSitcreek.com> wrote in message
    > news:ZLadndNNN9x-s1iiRVn-hg@giganews.com...
    > > > With number portability upon us, I thought I'd
    > > > see some decent promos by Verizon.

    > >
    > > You don't call the below a decent promo? I admit it doesn't suit me,

    but
    > it
    > > is a decent promo.
    > >
    > > -Frank
    > >
    > > [From the VZW stie...]
    > > Talk as long as you want within
    > > your Family SharePlan
    > >
    > > Plus get Unlimited Night &
    > > Weekend Minutes
    > >
    > > All this includes 400 shared anytime minutes to use however you want

    when
    > > you sign up for 2 lines on America's Choicesm Family SharePlansm.
    > >
    > > Primary line is $39.99 monthly access; additional line is only $20

    monthly
    > > access. 1- or 2-year Customer Agreement required.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
  7. Frank S <Frank@removeallcapsitcreek.com> wrote:
    >> With number portability upon us, I thought I'd
    >> see some decent promos by Verizon.

    >
    > You don't call the below a decent promo? I admit it doesn't suit me, but it
    > is a decent promo.


    I have Unlimited M2M between my two phones, 1000 nationwide M2M minutes
    for calls to other VZW phones, unlimited N&W, ExpressNet MOU, and two lines for
    $80/month plus taxes and regulatory fees.

    Pretty damned good, I'd say. Oh - that's for 800 anytime minutes shared
    between the two phones. Calling plan is America's Choice.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * sjsobol@JustThe.net
     
  8. Frank S

    Frank S Guest

    > I have Unlimited M2M between my two phones, 1000 nationwide
    > M2M minutes for calls to other VZW phones, unlimited N&W,
    > ExpressNet MOU, and two lines for $80/month plus taxes and
    > regulatory fees.


    Lessee... that's twice the price of the promo.

    -Frank
     
  9. "Frank S" ...
    > Here's another...
    >
    > Sign up on this promotional calling plan and you will receive 1000 Anytime
    > minutes for a low price of $39.99!
    >


    That's a Verizon promo?
     
  10. Frank S <Frank@removeallcapsitcreek.com> wrote:
    >> I have Unlimited M2M between my two phones, 1000 nationwide
    >> M2M minutes for calls to other VZW phones, unlimited N&W,
    >> ExpressNet MOU, and two lines for $80/month plus taxes and
    >> regulatory fees.

    >
    > Lessee... that's twice the price of the promo.


    I'm not comparing apples to oranges. I wasn't saying it was good *compared
    to the price of the promo*, just saying that I get a lot for my money. Besides,
    for $40 you don't get Family Share with two lines, and I have Family Share
    with two lines.

    I'm sorry. I should have been a little clearer about why I posted that -
    it was to point out that you don't ALWAYS get a raw deal, price-wise, from
    Verizon, even if they don't try to compete on price. I think my particular
    setup gives me a lot of bang for my buck.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * sjsobol@JustThe.net
     
  11. Frank S

    Frank S Guest

    > "Frank S" ...
    > > Here's another...
    > >
    > > Sign up on this promotional calling plan and you will
    > > receive 1000 Anytime minutes for a low price of $39.99!
    > >

    >
    > That's a Verizon promo?


    Yep.

    -Frank
     
  12. Frank S

    Frank S Guest

    > I'm sorry. I should have been a little clearer about
    > why I posted that it was to point out that you don't
    > ALWAYS get a raw deal, price-wise, from Verizon,
    > even if they don't try to compete on price.


    Agreed. I like my own National Single Rate plan that includes 2000 free
    weekend minutes for life. They don't offer the weekend promo on National
    Single Rate plans any more.

    -Frank
     

  13. > > >
    > > > Sign up on this promotional calling plan and you will
    > > > receive 1000 Anytime minutes for a low price of $39.99!
    > > >

    > >
    > > That's a Verizon promo?

    >
    > Yep.
    >


    Thanks for the "heads up". It's not on the web site. I'll check the
    newspaper ads and my local VZW store to see if it is offered in my area. I
    presently have 1,200 minutes (with no long distance--except in NC/SC) for
    $59.95.

    It looks like I'm paying $.04/minute for the first 1,000 minutes and
    $.10/minute for the next 200 minutes--if, indeed, that plan is authorized in
    North Carolina.

    If the plan is not available to me, I am content to be paying $.05/minute
    for 1,200 minutes. Alltel, on the other hand, charges me $.04/minute for
    1,000 minutes, and throws in national Long Distance. I also pay $.10 for
    another 100 minutes of Total Freedom, which allows me to roam anywhere in
    the USA.

    In short, I could save $20/month, with my minutes being reduced from 2,300
    to 2,100. Whew! Too much math this late at night. See you folks again
    tomorrow evening. Everyone have a great Thanksgiving!

    -Paul-
     
  14. Frank S

    Frank S Guest

    Here's the link. It's the first one listed...

    http://www.verizonwireless.com/ics/plsql/customize.intro#LOCAL

    -Frank


    "Real Estate Agent" <spamblockCaryRealtor@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:K1exb.33994$I53.1539576@twister.southeast.rr.com...
    >
    > > > >
    > > > > Sign up on this promotional calling plan and you will
    > > > > receive 1000 Anytime minutes for a low price of $39.99!
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > That's a Verizon promo?

    > >
    > > Yep.
    > >

    >
    > Thanks for the "heads up". It's not on the web site. I'll check the
    > newspaper ads and my local VZW store to see if it is offered in my area. I
    > presently have 1,200 minutes (with no long distance--except in NC/SC) for
    > $59.95.
    >
    > It looks like I'm paying $.04/minute for the first 1,000 minutes and
    > $.10/minute for the next 200 minutes--if, indeed, that plan is authorized

    in
    > North Carolina.
    >
    > If the plan is not available to me, I am content to be paying $.05/minute
    > for 1,200 minutes. Alltel, on the other hand, charges me $.04/minute for
    > 1,000 minutes, and throws in national Long Distance. I also pay $.10 for
    > another 100 minutes of Total Freedom, which allows me to roam anywhere in
    > the USA.
    >
    > In short, I could save $20/month, with my minutes being reduced from

    2,300
    > to 2,100. Whew! Too much math this late at night. See you folks again
    > tomorrow evening. Everyone have a great Thanksgiving!
    >
    > -Paul-
    >
    >
     
  15. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:13:47 -0600, Steven J Sobol
    <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

    >I have Unlimited M2M between my two phones, 1000 nationwide M2M minutes
    >for calls to other VZW phones, unlimited N&W, ExpressNet MOU, and two lines for
    >$80/month plus taxes and regulatory fees.


    The unlimited M2M between family members/phones on the share account
    is probably worth its weight in gold. I couldn't take advantage of
    it, since A) I'm on my own account with no subs and B) my family
    members use Alltel and AT&T. But if you CAN get everyone on the same
    plan, free calling is free calling!

    Mike
     
  16. David L

    David L Guest

    "David" <David@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<vsa3keq190vs36@corp.supernews.com>...
    > With number portability upon us, I thought I'd see some decent promos by
    > Verizon. Other companies seem to be doing more advertising and offering new
    > or better plans, but nothing from V yet. Any idea why?


    They don't need to.

    Other carriers are more worried about losing market share. Verizon is
    taking a wait and see approach, instead of giving away the store right
    off the bat.
    Verizon seems to look at competition in the long term. Even if a
    competitor offers a really good deal to get a customer, Verizon could
    still get the business at the next contract renewal, if dropped calls,
    poor CS, billing problems or poor coverage frustrate the discount
    user.
    Reducing rates to be competitive with limited coverage, low price
    metro cell carriers could hurt profitablity.

    -
    David
     
  17. Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > The unlimited M2M between family members/phones on the share account
    > is probably worth its weight in gold. I couldn't take advantage of
    > it, since A) I'm on my own account with no subs and B) my family
    > members use Alltel and AT&T. But if you CAN get everyone on the same
    > plan, free calling is free calling!


    Yup. Wife has Sprint to Sprint calling for calls to most of her family.
    I have Verizon to Verizon calling for the family members that have Verizon
    and if we aren't together she just carries my second Verizon phone.

    (Our account shows about 200 of 300 peak airtime minutes used on the
    Sprint account, and over 500 PCS-PCS mintues - all for $35 per month :)

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * sjsobol@JustThe.net
     
  18. IMO, the real benefits accrue to people who are with a provider and
    are NOT under a contract and are considering changing. They will have
    greater leverage with their existing carrier. The reason that the
    carriers are against LNP is that it will increase the likelyhood or
    people leaving to another carrier. But people are going to leave
    mostly based on service and less on price.

    It costs the carriers a LOT less to keep an existing customer than it
    does to get a new customer. So if you're with a carrier and don't
    have a contract, you might be able to get a better than advertised
    deal or a special price on a phone or both. But that's really the
    benefit with your existing carrier. Not the other guy.

    But as for new promos and new customers; well, that doesn't change
    much. It still costs them essentially the same for those new
    customers.

    Having said all that, I agree with other posters, Verizon is sitting
    in a nice position. They don't have to do too much of anything. It's
    really about the service quality mostly. People who focus primarily
    on price didn't go to Verizon before and they probably won't go now.
    Other carriers HAVE to give more minutes or more features or lower
    rates in order to provide an incentive for an otherwise weaker network
    in most respects.

    On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:35:06 -0800, "David" <David@nospam.com> wrote:

    >With number portability upon us, I thought I'd see some decent promos by
    >Verizon. Other companies seem to be doing more advertising and offering new
    >or better plans, but nothing from V yet. Any idea why?
    >
     
  19. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On 26 Nov 2003 20:34:42 -0800, davidlind@my-deja.com (David L) wrote:

    >Other carriers are more worried about losing market share. Verizon is
    >taking a wait and see approach, instead of giving away the store right
    >off the bat.


    The more I see of this, the smarter VZW seems to be. There was a lot
    of hype about an estimated 9 million (!!) people porting their numbers
    on the 24th. It looks like the numbers (from what I've seen so far)
    are a fraction of that. Why spend all that money to go after a
    sub-section of a few hundred thousand people, many of whom will be
    going your way anyway?

    I've said it all along - WLNP impact will be a LONG-TERM thing, not a
    first week thing. Many users aren't willing to pay the ETF - they
    don't hate their carrier THAT BAD to pay $150-200 just to leave them!
    They'll leave when the contract is up. Spread this out over time, and
    there's your impact.

    Mike
     
  20. >>Sign up on this promotional calling plan and you will
    >>receive 1000 Anytime minutes for a low price of
    >>$39.99!


    >>Admitedly, it's local. But hey... it's a promo!


    >>-Frank


    "> Here's the link. It's the first one listed...
    >
    > http://www.verizonwireless.com/ics/plsql/customize.intro#LOCAL
    >
    > -Frank
    >


    Frank: What ZIP code are you using?

    Paul
     

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