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NY Blackout and Cell Usage

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by UsenetMeister, Sep 8, 2003.

  1. I'm in Detroit which also had a block out. At the time the power went out,
    I was in Lansing (the very most western extent of the blackout). I had
    ATT. The network overloaded but was on. It took about four tries to get a
    call out and calls to Europe didn't work. I drove home to a suburb of
    Detroit and got home about 2 hours after the blackout. I still had service.
    My wife who had T-Mobile didn't. About two hours later, I lost ATT service.

    My wife has a Sprint datacard from her employer. We were able to use it the
    next morning. (Our DSL was down and the dialup was constantly busy).

    Stu
    "Mark Filla" <KS4VT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:vjtms11omjmt64@corp.supernews.com...
    > I'm glad that you enjoyed the article.... ^5
    >
    > --
    > Mark KS4VT
    >
    >
    > X1XX@hotmail.com (CCCC1 1CCCC) wrote in article
    > <vjtjbgei39t41a@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > Hey VEALOTS read it if you can, understand it, LIVE IT..... Truth not
    > > excusses....
    > >
    > > KS4VT@yahoo.com (Mark Filla) wrote in article
    > > <vjthgg1vgh1i49@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > Recent article on the blackout and voids in cellphone performance

    during
    > > > the power outage:
    > > >
    > > > http://money.cnn.com/2003/08/15/technology/landlines/index.htm?cnn=yes
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Mark KS4VT
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in article
    > > > <ZFOdnR46S8pAMKOiXTWJhg@lmi.net>:
    > > > > In alt.cellular Group Special Mobile <look@signature_to.reply>

    wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >>There is no difference. Cingular uses T-Mobile's network in New

    York.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Well duh! (thus the yeah right!)
    > > > >
    > > > > Okay, but some people aren't aware of that! :)
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > JustThe.net Internet & Multimedia Services
    > > > > 22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    > > > > Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    > > > > 888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * sjsobol@JustThe.net
    > > >
    > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular

    groups]
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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  2. Male Bomb

    Male Bomb Guest

    Its the fat cat providers to

    > blame not spending the $$ to make sure those systems work when needed.


    Oh, like the electricity service, very few services will perform
    flawlessly all the time. That would be like going to the car dealership
    and demanding a new car that will never break down, it's not going to
    happen. Cellular service is not a necessity it is a luxury, a couple
    hundred years ago there was no electricity, cars and cell phones and
    life went on just fine. MB



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  3. Male Bomb

    Male Bomb Guest

    I read it but must have missed the part where the Nextel phones were
    working and the VZW phones were not working. You are you own worst
    enemy. The "vealots" don't make you look as stupid as your own replys
    do. MB

    X1XX@hotmail.com (CCCC1 1CCCC) wrote in article
    <vjtjbgei39t41a@corp.supernews.com>:
    > Hey VEALOTS read it if you can, understand it, LIVE IT..... Truth not
    > excusses....
    >



    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  4. CCCC1 1CCCC

    CCCC1 1CCCC Guest

    momcat... oh know dont tell the vealots that... they are going to go
    crazy

    momcat1@hotmail.comNOSPAM (momcat1  ) wrote in article
    <vjtlof8kpbbbde@corp.supernews.com>:
    > Funny thing about that. During the blackout we could use our cell
    > phones in NY metro suburb, although it was not perfect. Today, two days
    > later when our area is back to 'normal', we can't get a digital signal
    > on the cells and our landline can't place any calls. But of course,
    > that would never make the press.
    >
    > "Donald Newcomb" <DRNewcomb@attglobal.NOT.net> wrote in article
    > <3f3ed49e_2@news1.prserv.net>:
    > >
    > > "Mark Filla" <KS4VT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > > news:vjthgg1vgh1i49@corp.supernews.com...
    > > > Recent article on the blackout and voids in cellphone performance during
    > > > the power outage:
    > > >
    > > > http://money.cnn.com/2003/08/15/technology/landlines/index.htm?cnn=yes

    > >
    > > Good article. Basic, but it still touched all the bases.
    > > --
    > >
    > > Donald Newcomb
    > > DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
    > > Remove 'NOT' from address to reply
    > >
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


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  5. CCCC1 1CCCC

    CCCC1 1CCCC Guest

    tampon... no its your replys and the rest of the vealots that make going
    to another provider something to think about to get some space between
    vealots and customer who just want hone that work, with out haveing to
    hear the whines and crys of vealots when they are trying to defend vzn
    fat cats. Be assured its vealots that prove the other providers and the
    rest of us sane and stable, unlike loser vealots such as yourself... one
    that by the way has no answers and NOTHING to talk about... funny just
    like vzn VEALOT

    malebomb@comcast.net (Male Bomb) wrote in article
    <vjtu5h930jrsac@corp.supernews.com>:
    > I read it but must have missed the part where the Nextel phones were
    > working and the VZW phones were not working. You are you own worst
    > enemy. The "vealots" don't make you look as stupid as your own replys
    > do. MB
    >
    > X1XX@hotmail.com (CCCC1 1CCCC) wrote in article
    > <vjtjbgei39t41a@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > Hey VEALOTS read it if you can, understand it, LIVE IT..... Truth not
    > > excusses....
    > >

    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


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  6. CCCC1 1CCCC

    CCCC1 1CCCC Guest

    tampon,
    oh ok another post t see how stupid and completely out of it you are.
    To many people in this day and age wireless phones ARE a necessity and
    good communication providers are important, one who care and take care
    of problems not like you vzn fat cats you are defending loser. Think a
    couple hundred years ago doctors and dentists where a luxury too loser.
    WRONG and completely BAD arguement. typical vealot

    malebomb@comcast.net (Male Bomb) wrote in article
    <vjtunnsvkm9429@corp.supernews.com>:
    >
    >
    >
    > Its the fat cat providers to
    >
    > > blame not spending the $$ to make sure those systems work when needed.

    >
    > Oh, like the electricity service, very few services will perform
    > flawlessly all the time. That would be like going to the car dealership
    > and demanding a new car that will never break down, it's not going to
    > happen. Cellular service is not a necessity it is a luxury, a couple
    > hundred years ago there was no electricity, cars and cell phones and
    > life went on just fine. MB
    >
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  7. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad Guest

    CCCC1, I would like you to eduacte me really quick...and please without
    name calling...etc. I would like to know what your definition of
    defending is vs. helping and explaining? Just a simpe question bro

    X1XX@hotmail.com (CCCC1 1CCCC) wrote in article
    <vju5bp2tphes7a@corp.supernews.com>:
    > tampon... no its your replys and the rest of the vealots that make going
    > to another provider something to think about to get some space between
    > vealots and customer who just want hone that work, with out haveing to
    > hear the whines and crys of vealots when they are trying to defend vzn
    > fat cats. Be assured its vealots that prove the other providers and the
    > rest of us sane and stable, unlike loser vealots such as yourself... one
    > that by the way has no answers and NOTHING to talk about... funny just
    > like vzn VEALOT
    >
    > malebomb@comcast.net (Male Bomb) wrote in article
    > <vjtu5h930jrsac@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > I read it but must have missed the part where the Nextel phones were
    > > working and the VZW phones were not working. You are you own worst
    > > enemy. The "vealots" don't make you look as stupid as your own replys
    > > do. MB
    > >
    > > X1XX@hotmail.com (CCCC1 1CCCC) wrote in article
    > > <vjtjbgei39t41a@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > Hey VEALOTS read it if you can, understand it, LIVE IT..... Truth not
    > > > excusses....
    > > >

    > >
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


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  8. cindy

    cindy Guest

    the blackout 2003 is a good thing because the system
    needs to be tested now and then to fix it.
     
  9. cindy

    cindy Guest

    # 28 29 30

    the blackout 2003 is a good thing because the system
    needs to be tested now and then to fix it and the
    best thing about a blackout in the subway is having
    sex in the dark with someone you don't know.


    yes yes yes it's a good thing unsafe sex.
     
  10. cindy

    cindy Guest

    # 28 29 30

    the blackout 2003 is a good thing because the system
    needs to be tested now and then to fix it and the
    best thing about a blackout in the subway is having
    sex in the dark with someone you don't know.


    yes yes yes it's a good thing unsafe sex.
     
  11. Joel Raskin

    Joel Raskin Guest

    "John Eckart" <JEckart@mail.com> wrote in article
    <lYW_a.4242$Nf3.2818@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
    > Can anyone tell me if the landline phones work during blackouts in NY?


    Our landlines ( all 3 lines) worked fine for the first 18 hours - they
    all went dead around 10am Friday, along with all of the residential
    lines of those neighbors that I spoke with in mine and the surrounding
    buidlings. I'm in Manhattan, on the Lower East Side. I found it
    interesting - and I'm curious to know why - that the pay phone on the
    corner was working throughout the blackout, which, for us, did not end
    until 9pm (we were the last neighborhood to come back online). Wouldn't
    the pay phone be serviced by the same CO and, if so, why would that line
    have power when the residential lines did not?

    FWIW, my VZW mobile service was barely usable by the time the landlines
    went out. The phone kept going in and out of service in what is
    normally a very strong signal area. I was successful in getting a call
    out in about 1 out of 20 attempts. Luckily, the spare battery for my
    7135 arrived on Wednesday and I had it charged and ready to go.

    VZW service was spotty right from the start. In the first 2 hours, I was
    trying to hook up with my friend who was zig-zagging south and east
    from W. 40th Street to get to me. We had moderate success on landline
    to mobile or mobile to landline calls - and almost no success on mobile
    to mobile calls (only 1 such attempt was successful). Unfortunately, I
    was on the move for much of the time, helping neighbors get up or
    downstairs. I remember on one such trip up the stairs, my phone started
    ringing 3 times along the way.... "you have an incoming" and would
    abruptly die before the end of the first "ring" each time. These were
    calls from my friend's VZW phone. On the other hand, a few minutes
    later, an elderly neighbor who was unable to walk up the stairs to her
    landline phone, was able to get a call out on my VZW phone to her son in
    Chicago to let him know she was safe.

    --
    ======== Joel =========
    www.jraskin.com
    =====================




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  12. Brad

    Brad Guest

    Technically your correct but I'm afraid most "moms" would disagree, since
    they consider anything that involves their child a top priority emergency
    above and beyond anything else. That would include day care.

    Its sure comes closer to qualifying than "Hey bubba, wanna know about some
    serious shit that just happened. The lights went out man, and I can't find
    my way to the beer." What the hell am I gonna do now bubba?" Which is how
    important probably 80-90% of the calls were.


    "Donald Newcomb" <DRNewcomb@attglobal.NOT.net> wrote in message
    news:3f3ebc03_2@news1.prserv.net...
    >
    > "Brad" <me@here.invalid> wrote in message news:3f3d2994_3@newsfeed...
    > > Well I meant emergency also including calling the day care to inform

    them
    > > they won't be there on time, etc.
    > > Not just calling because your bored or a drama queen.

    >
    > That actually does not fit the usual definition of "emergency" unless the
    > day care is going to toss your kid in blender if you're late. An emergency
    > an urgent situation affecting life, health, safety or perhaps, extreme
    > financial loss (e.g. fire threatening unoccupied building). The day-care
    > situation is simply an urgent personal matter.
    > --
    >
    > Donald Newcomb
    > DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
    > Remove 'NOT' from address to reply
    >
    >
     
  13. matt weber

    matt weber Guest

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:22:40 -0500, "Donald Newcomb"
    <DRNewcomb@attglobal.NOT.net> wrote:

    >
    >"Steve & Susan" <moc.enilepip@ykkams> wrote in message
    >news:bqmpjv8tuk1m8nr1d9925v4d9et42u2p53@4ax.com...
    >> Sad commentary. At what point in the evolution of our society did
    >> wireline telephones ever require battteries?

    >
    >Oh, since about 1876. :cool: Of course the batteries were all at the CO. Long
    >banks of racks filled with large, glass-tank, zinc-copper cells. WECO knew
    >how to build stuff, that's for sure. Of course a cellphone built that way
    >would weigh 87 lbs but it could survive a nuclear blast.



    In fact if you visit almost any telephone exchange today, you will
    still find a 'battery room', nothing but a room full of storage
    batteries. Usually they are on 'float charge', which means they are
    being fed from a charger, and are actually powering the exchange.

    If you want to see really big storage batteries, that is where you
    will find them. 2 volt, 800AH cells...
     
  14. In <kr40kv4966hv29uui0e0vldrc9t1dkofpe@4ax.com> matt weber <mattheww50@cox.net> writes:

    >If you want to see really big storage batteries, that is where you
    >will find them. 2 volt, 800AH cells...


    submarines. Oh, and also the backup power at nookleyur power plants.

    --
    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
     
  15. Coasterbuf

    Coasterbuf Guest

    Apparently they are now giving mental patients access to the internet.

    I suppose I shouldn't ask someone with such reduced mental capacities a
    rational question, but I just have to ask anyway. If you hate Verizon so
    much, then why are you here?


    "CCCC1 1CCCC" <X1XX@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:vju5bp2tphes7a@corp.supernews.com...
    > tampon... no its your replys and the rest of the vealots that make going
    > to another provider something to think about to get some space between
    > vealots and customer who just want hone that work, with out haveing to
    > hear the whines and crys of vealots when they are trying to defend vzn
    > fat cats. Be assured its vealots that prove the other providers and the
    > rest of us sane and stable, unlike loser vealots such as yourself... one
    > that by the way has no answers and NOTHING to talk about... funny just
    > like vzn VEALOT
    >

    e alt.cellular groups]
     
  16. Mark Filla

    Mark Filla Guest

    Here is another article:

    http://www.hoovers.com/free/news/detail.xhtml?ArticleID=NR200308153300.2_b07a00145d9b1212

    "Cell phone service once again failed to step up in the face of
    calamity.During Thursday's blackout that darkened parts of the
    Northeast, most cell phone subscribers were unable to make calls when
    they reached for their handsets."

    "The carriers blamed the ongoing outages on their cellular transmitter
    stations, which handle cell phone call traffic. "We need electricity to
    power our cell sites, but when you don't have that, it's out of our
    control," Nextel Communications spokesman Chris Grandis said.The
    transmitter stations are powered by electricity, and most have battery
    backups that provide three to six hours of additional operation. But
    when the blackout stretched beyond six hours, the stations that were
    still working went dead."

    --
    Mark KS4VT




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  17. most land line phones today dont work if electric goes out unless they
    have some kind of battery back up ,only around 5 or so cordless have
    battery back up and that is if you buy a extra battery to put in base
    unit of phone.old phones where powered by phone conection but not any
    more .

    matt weber <mattheww50@cox.net> wrote in article
    <kr40kv4966hv29uui0e0vldrc9t1dkofpe@4ax.com>:
    > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:22:40 -0500, "Donald Newcomb"
    > <DRNewcomb@attglobal.NOT.net> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Steve & Susan" <moc.enilepip@ykkams> wrote in message
    > >news:bqmpjv8tuk1m8nr1d9925v4d9et42u2p53@4ax.com...
    > >> Sad commentary. At what point in the evolution of our society did
    > >> wireline telephones ever require battteries?

    > >
    > >Oh, since about 1876. :cool: Of course the batteries were all at the CO. Long
    > >banks of racks filled with large, glass-tank, zinc-copper cells. WECO knew
    > >how to build stuff, that's for sure. Of course a cellphone built that way
    > >would weigh 87 lbs but it could survive a nuclear blast.

    >
    >
    > In fact if you visit almost any telephone exchange today, you will
    > still find a 'battery room', nothing but a room full of storage
    > batteries. Usually they are on 'float charge', which means they are
    > being fed from a charger, and are actually powering the exchange.
    >
    > If you want to see really big storage batteries, that is where you
    > will find them. 2 volt, 800AH cells...


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  18. GandalfSC

    GandalfSC Guest

    Top Postings CORRECTED. Headers trimmed.


    > > > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:22:40 -0500, "Donald Newcomb"
    > > > > <DRNewcomb@attglobal.NOT.net> wrote:
    > > > "Steve & Susan" <moc.enilepip@ykkams> wrote in message
    > > > news:bqmpjv8tuk1m8nr1d9925v4d9et42u2p53@4ax.com...

    > > matt weber <mattheww50@cox.net> wrote in article
    > > <kr40kv4966hv29uui0e0vldrc9t1dkofpe@4ax.com>:

    > "mitchell friend" <mitch_32us@yahoo.com>
    > wrote in message news:vk07b6admrdodd@corp.supernews.com...
    > most land line phones today dont work if electric goes out unless they
    > have some kind of battery back up ,only around 5 or so cordless have
    > battery back up and that is if you buy a extra battery to put in base
    > unit of phone.old phones where powered by phone conection but not any
    > more .
    >

    WRONG. Any CORDED phone will work if the power goes out. SMALL amount
    of electricity runs through the phone line to POWER the ringer and DTMF
    tones
    If OLD phones were powered and they aren't any longer, explain how you get
    calls
    on YOUR landline.

    MOST phones today are CORDLESS, THEREFORE Battery
    operated. Keep a CORDED phone
    around for blackouts


    --
    GandalfSC
    --
    Scanned by Norton Anti-Virus
    And deemed herewith Virus Free
     
  19. Male Bomb

    Male Bomb Guest

    X1XX@hotmail.com (CCCC1 1CCCC) wrote in article
    <vju5bp2tphes7a@corp.supernews.com>:
    > tampon... no its your replys and the rest of the vealots that make going
    > to another provider something to think about


    Is there anything we vealots can do to expedite the process? MB

    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  20. if you think so,turn power off at your place and try using newer corded
    phone. then let every one on here know if it worked or not. you might
    be surprised on what happens.

    "GandalfSC" <gandalf@rochester.rr.com> wrote in article
    <0yV%a.203130$EQ5.145599@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
    > Top Postings CORRECTED. Headers trimmed.
    >
    >
    > > > > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:22:40 -0500, "Donald Newcomb"
    > > > > > <DRNewcomb@attglobal.NOT.net> wrote:
    > > > > "Steve & Susan" <moc.enilepip@ykkams> wrote in message
    > > > > news:bqmpjv8tuk1m8nr1d9925v4d9et42u2p53@4ax.com...
    > > > matt weber <mattheww50@cox.net> wrote in article
    > > > <kr40kv4966hv29uui0e0vldrc9t1dkofpe@4ax.com>:

    > > "mitchell friend" <mitch_32us@yahoo.com>
    > > wrote in message news:vk07b6admrdodd@corp.supernews.com...
    > > most land line phones today dont work if electric goes out unless they
    > > have some kind of battery back up ,only around 5 or so cordless have
    > > battery back up and that is if you buy a extra battery to put in base
    > > unit of phone.old phones where powered by phone conection but not any
    > > more .
    > >

    > WRONG. Any CORDED phone will work if the power goes out. SMALL amount
    > of electricity runs through the phone line to POWER the ringer and DTMF
    > tones
    > If OLD phones were powered and they aren't any longer, explain how you get
    > calls
    > on YOUR landline.
    >
    > MOST phones today are CORDLESS, THEREFORE Battery
    > operated. Keep a CORDED phone
    > around for blackouts
    >
    >
    > --
    > GandalfSC
    > --
    > Scanned by Norton Anti-Virus
    > And deemed herewith Virus Free
    >
    >


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