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NYC Mobile Phone Deadspot Survey Results

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Ken H, Nov 26, 2003.

  1. Ken H

    Ken H Guest

  2. Isaiah Beard

    Isaiah Beard Guest

    Ken H wrote:

    > Available at: http://www.nyc.gov/html/misc/html/mobilesurveyresults3.html or
    > by links from: www.nyc.gov .


    Well, I can already tell you there's some issues with this data.
    Cingular appears to have far fewer reported trouble spots than T-Mobile,
    and the spots are in all different areas. Yet that can't be: Cingular
    does not *have* its own GSM network in NYC; they have an agreement to
    piggyback on T-mobile's network in exchange for T-Mobile doing the same
    thing on Cingular's network on the west coast. See:

    http://www.mobileinfo.com/Press_Releases2001/Cingular_voicestream.htm

    and

    http://www.wirelessweek.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA232094


    So, all other things being equal, the number and location of problem
    areas should be just about identical.


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  3. Aboutdakota

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    Isaiah Beard wrote:
    > Ken H wrote:
    >
    >> Available at:
    >> http://www.nyc.gov/html/misc/html/mobilesurveyresults3.html or
    >> by links from: www.nyc.gov .

    >
    >
    > Well, I can already tell you there's some issues with this data.
    > Cingular appears to have far fewer reported trouble spots than T-Mobile,
    > and the spots are in all different areas. Yet that can't be: Cingular
    > does not *have* its own GSM network in NYC; they have an agreement to
    > piggyback on T-mobile's network in exchange for T-Mobile doing the same
    > thing on Cingular's network on the west coast. See:
    >
    > http://www.mobileinfo.com/Press_Releases2001/Cingular_voicestream.htm
    >
    > and
    >
    > http://www.wirelessweek.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA232094
    >
    >
    > So, all other things being equal, the number and location of problem
    > areas should be just about identical.


    That's what I was wondering, unless Cingular users could roam onto AT&T
    GSM or another GSM carrier (if there is one there)? Or maybe it could
    be a composite of TDMA/GSM coverage? I don't know, it seems odd.

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  4. momcat1

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    Aboutdakota <aboutdakota@hot-mail.com> wrote in message news:<3FC51786.6070501@hot-mail.com>...
    > Isaiah Beard wrote:
    > > Ken H wrote:
    > >
    > >> Available at:
    > >> http://www.nyc.gov/html/misc/html/mobilesurveyresults3.html or
    > >> by links from: www.nyc.gov .

    > >
    > >
    > > Well, I can already tell you there's some issues with this data.
    > > Cingular appears to have far fewer reported trouble spots than T-Mobile,
    > > and the spots are in all different areas. Yet that can't be: Cingular
    > > does not *have* its own GSM network in NYC; they have an agreement to
    > > piggyback on T-mobile's network in exchange for T-Mobile doing the same
    > > thing on Cingular's network on the west coast. See:
    > >
    > > http://www.mobileinfo.com/Press_Releases2001/Cingular_voicestream.htm
    > >
    > > and
    > >
    > > http://www.wirelessweek.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA232094
    > >
    > >
    > > So, all other things being equal, the number and location of problem
    > > areas should be just about identical.

    >
    > That's what I was wondering, unless Cingular users could roam onto AT&T
    > GSM or another GSM carrier (if there is one there)? Or maybe it could
    > be a composite of TDMA/GSM coverage? I don't know, it seems odd.
    >
    > AD



    Now why can't we see something like this for NY STATE? It's admirable
    that this task force was set up to fix the dead spots in the city, but
    there are many of us with at least as much trouble in the rest of the
    state.
     
  5. momcat1 <momcat1@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > Now why can't we see something like this for NY STATE?


    Because Michael Bloomberg doesn't have the authority to set it up for
    the rest of the state. He's the one that called for it in the first place.

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  6. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On 26 Nov 2003 20:55:52 -0800, momcat1@hotmail.com (momcat1) posted in
    alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Now why can't we see something like this for NY STATE? It's admirable
    >that this task force was set up to fix the dead spots in the city, but
    >there are many of us with at least as much trouble in the rest of the
    >state.


    Because the study was done by NYC?
     
  7. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:11:31 -0500, Ken H <ken_hopex@bigfoots.com>
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Available at: http://www.nyc.gov/html/misc/html/mobilesurveyresults3.html or
    >by links from: www.nyc.gov .


    Something tells me that the problems in midtown aren't lack of
    coverage, but lack of capacity.

    But the problems in Norton's Point are strange. There's nothing there
    that would cause lack of coverage.
     

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