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QNC Internet Access Question

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Frank McGirt, Sep 29, 2003.

  1. Frank McGirt

    Frank McGirt Guest

    In my home area (around Albuquerque) I have had no problems using qnc
    access or Express Network access with my LG4400. We are now in
    eastern OK with both digital and analog Verizon Extended Network
    service. When I try to sign on from either my laptop or Palm, I get
    an Authenication Error. Should I not expect to be able to use qnc
    access from out of my home area???

    Frank McGirt
    fmcgirt@mac.com
     



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  2. Sterling

    Sterling Guest

    Your getting Authentication error because your not on Verizon!
    Extended Network means your roaming onto an other company.. You will need to
    use a different dialup ISP, or use that companies model pool.. You can call
    their 611 and ask if they have QNC Internet access on their network. Ask
    them the number and the username/password their system requires. But keep in
    mind, not all digital carriers have data enabled on their network. US
    Cellular doen't in Central Washington! Even a regular dialup ISP will not
    work!

    "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    news:290920031438466428%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    >
    > In my home area (around Albuquerque) I have had no problems using qnc
    > access or Express Network access with my LG4400. We are now in
    > eastern OK with both digital and analog Verizon Extended Network
    > service. When I try to sign on from either my laptop or Palm, I get
    > an Authenication Error. Should I not expect to be able to use qnc
    > access from out of my home area???
    >
    > Frank McGirt
    > fmcgirt@mac.com
     
  3. Frank McGirt

    Frank McGirt Guest

    In article <ad1eb.87$NU2.50861@news.uswest.net>, Sterling
    <buggyboyvt@icehouse.net> wrote:

    > Your getting Authentication error because your not on Verizon!
    > Extended Network means your roaming onto an other company.. You will need to
    > use a different dialup ISP, or use that companies model pool.. You can call
    > their 611 and ask if they have QNC Internet access on their network. Ask
    > them the number and the username/password their system requires. But keep in
    > mind, not all digital carriers have data enabled on their network. US
    > Cellular doen't in Central Washington! Even a regular dialup ISP will not
    > work!
    >
    > "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    > news:290920031438466428%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    > >
    > > In my home area (around Albuquerque) I have had no problems using qnc
    > > access or Express Network access with my LG4400. We are now in
    > > eastern OK with both digital and analog Verizon Extended Network
    > > service. When I try to sign on from either my laptop or Palm, I get
    > > an Authenication Error. Should I not expect to be able to use qnc
    > > access from out of my home area???
    > >
    > > Frank McGirt
    > > fmcgirt@mac.com

    >
    >


    Thanks for the responses. I was pretty sure that was the case.

    Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon
    sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does
    defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I
    am on travel.

    Thanks again,

    Frank
     
  4. Bill Radio

    Bill Radio Guest

    Frank,
    You don't have to be in your Home area, just on the Verizon network. OK
    and a few other states do have little Verizon data coverage.

    Looking at this map, you can access the data network in all of the
    places marked on this map, not just your Home area:

    http://www.verizonwireless.com/images/maps/americas_choice/americas_choice_mtm.gif

    -Bill Radio

    Western U.S. Wireless Reviews & Ratings:
    http://www.MountainWireless.com


    Frank McGirt <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in article
    <290920031617074404%fmcgirt@mac.com>:
    > >

    > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon
    > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does
    > defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I
    > am on travel.








    [posted via phonescoop.com]
     
  5. Frank McGirt

    Frank McGirt Guest

    In article <wcNNTP.01c386d0.e5f0a9e0.1.1064870910@bbs.glorb.com>, Geoff
    Brozny <nospam@glorb.com> wrote:

    > "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    > news:290920031617074404%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    > >
    > > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon
    > > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does
    > > defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I
    > > am on travel.
    > >
    > > Thanks again,
    > >
    > > Frank

    >
    > it will work out of your home area, just not on Extended Network, because
    > your actually not on verizons network right now.
    >
    >
    > geoff
    >
    >


    OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought
    that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc
    and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on???

    Maybe Alltel doesn't support data access in this part of OK, but that
    is pretty hard to believe.
     
  6. CharlesH

    CharlesH Guest

    In article <290920031617074404%fmcgirt@mac.com>,
    Frank McGirt <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote:
    >In article <ad1eb.87$NU2.50861@news.uswest.net>, Sterling
    ><buggyboyvt@icehouse.net> wrote:
    >
    >> Your getting Authentication error because your not on Verizon!
    >> Extended Network means your roaming onto an other company.. You will need to
    >> use a different dialup ISP, or use that companies model pool.. You can call
    >> their 611 and ask if they have QNC Internet access on their network. Ask
    >> them the number and the username/password their system requires. But keep in
    >> mind, not all digital carriers have data enabled on their network. US
    >> Cellular doen't in Central Washington! Even a regular dialup ISP will not
    >> work!
    >>
    >> "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    >> news:290920031438466428%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    >> >
    >> > In my home area (around Albuquerque) I have had no problems using qnc
    >> > access or Express Network access with my LG4400. We are now in
    >> > eastern OK with both digital and analog Verizon Extended Network
    >> > service. When I try to sign on from either my laptop or Palm, I get
    >> > an Authenication Error. Should I not expect to be able to use qnc
    >> > access from out of my home area???
    >> >
    >> > Frank McGirt
    >> > fmcgirt@mac.com

    >
    >Thanks for the responses. I was pretty sure that was the case.
    >
    >Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon
    >sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does
    >defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I
    >am on travel.


    It will work in any Verizon digital area, not just your home area.
    There are also some roaming partners where you can use your AirCard to
    call your own ISP (not #777), but this is pretty much hit-or-miss.
     
  7. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    news:290920031438466428%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    >
    > In my home area (around Albuquerque) I have had no problems using qnc
    > access or Express Network access with my LG4400. We are now in
    > eastern OK with both digital and analog Verizon Extended Network
    > service. When I try to sign on from either my laptop or Palm, I get
    > an Authenication Error. Should I not expect to be able to use qnc
    > access from out of my home area???



    you most likey have to be on native verizon network for data services to
    work... your out of luck..


    geoff
     
  8. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    news:290920031617074404%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    >
    > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon
    > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does
    > defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I
    > am on travel.
    >
    > Thanks again,
    >
    > Frank


    it will work out of your home area, just not on Extended Network, because
    your actually not on verizons network right now.


    geoff
     
  9. Frank McGirt

    Frank McGirt Guest

    In article <vnh9ni3ukoem75@corp.supernews.com>, Bill Radio
    <Bill@MountainWirelessNOSPAM.com> wrote:

    > Frank,
    > You don't have to be in your Home area, just on the Verizon network. OK
    > and a few other states do have little Verizon data coverage.
    >
    > Looking at this map, you can access the data network in all of the
    > places marked on this map, not just your Home area:
    >
    >
    > http://www.verizonwireless.com/images/maps/americas_choice/americas_choice_mtm.
    > gif
    >
    > -Bill Radio
    >
    > Western U.S. Wireless Reviews & Ratings:
    > http://www.MountainWireless.com
    >
    >
    > Frank McGirt <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in article
    > <290920031617074404%fmcgirt@mac.com>:
    > > >

    > > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon
    > > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does
    > > defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I
    > > am on travel.

    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    I think I get it now. I was under the impression that being on the
    Extended Network would mean that all services (except maybe Express
    Network) would be available and this is not true as you pointed out.

    Since Alltel is the service provider here and since they are partners
    with Verizon, I just assumed that qnc data service would be available
    and it is not. What was also strange was that the LG4400 display
    showed completion of a QNC call but then the signon process was aborted
    with the auth failure and ended the call. Wonder why a qnc call
    would even be accepted by Alltel if the data service was not
    available??
    Why not give a more reasonable error like: Service Not Available??

    Thanks to everyone for the responses,

    Frank
     
  10. Sterling

    Sterling Guest

    Alltel does offer QNC (14.4 Kbps) data, but I dont know their
    username/password info, or if it is in fact #777 like Verizon.
    Call 611 from the Alltel area your in, and ask one of their reps the
    information.
    If they dont know, ask to speak to someone in tech. support or data
    services.

    "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    news:290920031642527150%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    > In article <wcNNTP.01c386d0.e5f0a9e0.1.1064870910@bbs.glorb.com>, Geoff
    > Brozny <nospam@glorb.com> wrote:
    >
    > > "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    > > news:290920031617074404%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    > > >
    > > > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon
    > > > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does
    > > > defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I
    > > > am on travel.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks again,
    > > >
    > > > Frank

    > >
    > > it will work out of your home area, just not on Extended Network,

    because
    > > your actually not on verizons network right now.
    > >
    > >
    > > geoff
    > >
    > >

    >
    > OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought
    > that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc
    > and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on???
    >
    > Maybe Alltel doesn't support data access in this part of OK, but that
    > is pretty hard to believe.
     
  11. Tom J

    Tom J Guest

    "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    news:290920031642527150%fmcgirt@mac.com...

    >
    > OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought
    > that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc
    > and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on???


    I am also on NSR. Have you tried setting up a connection directly to your ISP
    regular number that you use at home? I have no problem doing that when qnc
    doesn't connect AS LONG AS I am on digital. The feed through is slower though.

    Tom J
     
  12. "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    news:290920031642527150%fmcgirt@mac.com...

    >
    > OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought
    > that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc
    > and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on???
    >
    > Maybe Alltel doesn't support data access in this part of OK, but that
    > is pretty hard to believe.


    Alltel charges extra to be able to use QNC in Tampa, FL


    --
    Thomas M. Goethe
     
  13. Frank McGirt

    Frank McGirt Guest

    In article
    <Sc3eb.163680$3o3.11788898@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Tom J
    <tomjanis2@att.net> wrote:

    > "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    > news:290920031642527150%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    >
    > >
    > > OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought
    > > that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc
    > > and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on???

    >
    > I am also on NSR. Have you tried setting up a connection directly to your ISP
    > regular number that you use at home? I have no problem doing that when qnc
    > doesn't connect AS LONG AS I am on digital. The feed through is slower though.
    >
    > Tom J
    >
    >


    No, I have not tried that but I certainly will!!!

    Thanks for the suggestion.

    Frank
     
  14. Al S

    Al S Guest

    I have AC and while roaming on Alltel in western Kansas I have have used
    QNC. #777, qnc, qnc - just like when on Verizon.
    Since I had EN-MOU added to my account I have not been able to connect
    to QNC @ 19.2K. I have only been able to connect to EN @ 115.2K.
    Have not tried to connect outside of the EN area since the change.


    Frank McGirt <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in article
    <290920031845353836%fmcgirt@mac.com>:
    > In article
    > <Sc3eb.163680$3o3.11788898@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Tom J
    > <tomjanis2@att.net> wrote:
    >
    > > "Frank McGirt" <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in message
    > > news:290920031642527150%fmcgirt@mac.com...
    > >
    > > >
    > > > OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought
    > > > that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc
    > > > and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on???

    > >
    > > I am also on NSR. Have you tried setting up a connection directly to your ISP
    > > regular number that you use at home? I have no problem doing that when qnc
    > > doesn't connect AS LONG AS I am on digital. The feed through is slower though.
    > >
    > > Tom J
    > >
    > >

    >
    > No, I have not tried that but I certainly will!!!
    >
    > Thanks for the suggestion.
    >
    > Frank


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
     
  15. "Al S" <als@net.net> wrote in message
    news:vnhjf0j4osoa9b@corp.supernews.com...
    > I have AC and while roaming on Alltel in western Kansas I have have used
    > QNC. #777, qnc, qnc - just like when on Verizon.
    > Since I had EN-MOU added to my account I have not been able to connect
    > to QNC @ 19.2K. I have only been able to connect to EN @ 115.2K.
    > Have not tried to connect outside of the EN area since the change.
    >


    You may have to make a change to a setting in the phone from packet data
    to circuit data. EN and QNC use different data connections. Geoff, who will
    surely see this, :) always has the init strings which allow you to do this
    from the PC rather than mucking about in the phone which is a pain on the
    Motorola T720 (it was easy on the Audiovox 9155).

    I really have not needed QNC since getting EN, but this was a problem
    with my Alltel account as their 1x footprint was only a small portion of
    their coverage area. I needed to use QNC when out of 1x coverage and had to
    switch the phone back and forth.


    --
    Thomas M. Goethe
     
  16. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "Thomas M. Goethe" <xspamgoethe11xxxxxx@lycos.com> wrote in message
    news:blakjq$9u8k2$1@ID-192964.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > You may have to make a change to a setting in the phone from packet

    data
    > to circuit data. EN and QNC use different data connections. Geoff, who

    will
    > surely see this, :) always has the init strings which allow you to do

    this
    > from the PC rather than mucking about in the phone which is a pain on the
    > Motorola T720 (it was easy on the Audiovox 9155).
    >



    AT$QCMDR=2 QNC



    AT$QCMDR=3 EN

    geoff
     

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