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Replacement for Moto V60?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Jumpy Geathers, Jan 13, 2005.

  1. Hi,

    I'm thinking of taking VZW up on their New Every Two offer. I currently have
    a V60i that I love. However, I am willing to trade it in for a phone with a
    camera and all of the bells and whistles provided it gets as good of
    reception/clarity as the V60.

    Any suggestions? I was looking at the Samsung a670 and the Moto V265.

    TIA
     



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  2. Jumpy Geathers wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm thinking of taking VZW up on their New Every Two offer. I currently have
    > a V60i that I love. However, I am willing to trade it in for a phone with a
    > camera and all of the bells and whistles provided it gets as good of
    > reception/clarity as the V60.
    >
    > Any suggestions? I was looking at the Samsung a670 and the Moto V265.
    >
    > TIA


    V265 Works similar to (it is a moto) V60. Has a fair camera, very good
    reception, good speakerphone and will voice dial better than V60.
    Don't forget you get a 15 day trial.

    LB
     
  3. Dean

    Dean Guest

    Wife loves her v265 (which replaced her v60i). Only thing I really dislike
    is the plastic case (vs. the v60).

    Dean
    ________________________________________
    <LB@notmine.com> wrote in message news:41E70584.9ED4B497@optonline.net...
    > Jumpy Geathers wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I'm thinking of taking VZW up on their New Every Two offer. I currently

    have
    > > a V60i that I love. However, I am willing to trade it in for a phone

    with a
    > > camera and all of the bells and whistles provided it gets as good of
    > > reception/clarity as the V60.
    > >
    > > Any suggestions? I was looking at the Samsung a670 and the Moto V265.
    > >
    > > TIA

    >
    > V265 Works similar to (it is a moto) V60. Has a fair camera, very good
    > reception, good speakerphone and will voice dial better than V60.
    > Don't forget you get a 15 day trial.
    >
    > LB
     
  4. Matt Johnson

    Matt Johnson Guest

    Take a good look at the Samsung. I'm a previous Motorola owner and was
    hesitant to make the switch, but I couldn't be happier with my
    A670--especially with its 1X data capabilities!!! Nothing will ever be as
    bombproof as my old StarTac, but the ability to get my laptop online with no
    charge other than minutes of use is soooo worth it!




    "Jumpy Geathers" <jumpyg@twmi.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:rgwFd.52$Mu3.15@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm thinking of taking VZW up on their New Every Two offer. I currently
    > have a V60i that I love. However, I am willing to trade it in for a phone
    > with a camera and all of the bells and whistles provided it gets as good
    > of reception/clarity as the V60.
    >
    > Any suggestions? I was looking at the Samsung a670 and the Moto V265.
    >
    > TIA
    >
     
  5. V710 Lawsuit (was: Replacement for Moto V60)?

    16-Jan-2005, From Ellery Davies <Ellery (at) StarBus (dot) com>

    You didn't state your priorities, but for my preferences, the question is
    easy! If you are using the CDMA tri-mode version of the v60i, then upgrade
    to the V710 (they now use a cap-'V') or the soon to be released E815. These
    are the next phones in the series that follow the v60i and the original
    Viper v8160).

    Assuming that you don't need a full QUERTY-keyboard communicator, such as
    the MPX 220 (or the very high end MPX), or the Treo 650, then this pretty
    much gives you everything you could wish for in a clamshell phone. And the
    best news is that they use the same plug-in chargers, and accessories:

    1. The V710 has already been recalled/upgraded. And the price has fallen
    dramatically in the 5 months that it has been available. It adds the
    following to the v60i:

    a) Postively fabulous speaker independenet, continuous speech voice
    recognition
    (doesn't even require any of your alloted memory)!
    a) Bluetooth (get the HS820 headset, not the older 810) [*]
    b) Built-in speaker phone
    c) 1.3 megapixel camera
    d) MP3 stereo music player built in (requires 2-ear headset).
    e) 10MB built in memory for phone numbers, photos, ring-tones, music,
    themes, and photos.
    f) TransFlash slot (the memory is as small as your fingernail!!). 128MB
    costs only $34.
    SanDisk has just announced availability of 256 MB chips.
    g) "Get it now" (Verizon's rip-off service for games, photo transfer,
    ringtones, etc)

    Be aware that the camera sucks (worse than most 640x480 cameras)

    [*] Also note: Verizon has forced Motorola to cripple many bluetooth
    functions. You can use it *ONLY* for a wireless headset, to enable the
    in-car display/speakerphone (certain autos only), or as a wireless PC
    dial-up modem (at 14.4kbps), but you are prevented from transferring photos,
    synching your phone-list, downloading music clips or background images from
    your PC. Verizon wants you to send these things over their network.

    Worse still, they don't even let you use your paid minutes to do so!! For
    example to send each photo that you take to your own PC, you must BOTH pay
    for the minutes used and also pay 25c per photo as a service fee (?!!!).
    Yes! They actually crippled the manufacturer's hardware features -- so that
    they could call it a service option! Then they had the chutzpah to claim
    that it was done this way to enhance security. Yeah, sure! The security of
    their profits!

    2. The E815 was just announced last week. The spec sheet is already posted
    at Moto and several sites have reviewed it. It is slated to hit the streets
    in March. It has everything described above plus:

    a) Finally, they fixed the camera. Still 1.3 MPx, but supposedly, it now
    has a digital image processor that makes it shine.

    b) 40 MB fo internal memory (pretty big for anything that is not a
    computer)

    c) EV-DO! This is really nifty. You can evem cancel your cable or DSL
    broadband. The phone is a high-speed modem!

    Verizon EV-DO already covers 30 cities. I don't know the pricing ( check
    www.vzw.com ). Prior to EV-DO, the v60i (with cable) and the V710 (with
    bluetooth), could be used as a modem. But it resulted in a 14.4kbps
    connection. If you paid for the older Verizon CDPD network, you could get a
    slightly better 19.2KBps, but then you needed to pay for data contract on
    top of your minutes. With EV-DO, your PC is connected anywhere in the
    coverage area, as if you had just ealked into an unsecure Wi-Fi hotspot (but
    with the advantage of reasonable security). And the throughput rivals your
    home cable or DSL service.

    I purchased my V710 before the E815 announcement, so I missed out on EV-DO.
    But I frequently use my V710 as a modem whenever I cannot get a 802.11a/b/g
    signal for my Dell Inspiron XPS notebook or Dell Axim x50v PDA (both have
    built-in Bluetooth). Even if I am in the local diner and have left the phone
    in the car, my headset and computers work -- as long as the car is parked
    along the outside wall of the restaurant. It is truely awesome!
    _____________

    "Jumpy Geathers" <jumpyg@twmi.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:rgwFd.52$Mu3.15@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm thinking of taking VZW up on their New Every Two offer. I currently
    > have a V60i that I love. However, I am willing to trade it in for a phone
    > with a camera and all of the bells and whistles provided it gets as good
    > of reception/clarity as the V60.
    >
    > Any suggestions? I was looking at the Samsung a670 and the Moto V265.
    >
    > TIA
    >
     
  6. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Re: V710 Lawsuit (was: Replacement for Moto V60)?

    On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:22:48 -0500, "Ellery Davies"
    <See-Reply-Addr@Nospam.com> wrote:

    >[*] Also note: Verizon has forced Motorola to cripple many bluetooth
    >functions. You can use it *ONLY* for a wireless headset, to enable the
    >in-car display/speakerphone (certain autos only), or as a wireless PC
    >dial-up modem (at 14.4kbps), but you are prevented from transferring photos,
    >synching your phone-list, downloading music clips or background images from
    >your PC. Verizon wants you to send these things over their network.


    One correction - the v710 DOES support VZW's 1XRTT data, the step
    between QNC and EVDO. Data speeds range generally 50-80kbps, with
    bursts to 144kbps.

    Mike
     
  7. Re: V710 Lawsuit (was: Replacement for Moto V60)?

    17-Jan-2005, From "Ellery Davies" <Ellery (at) StarBus (dot) com>

    GOOD CATCH, MIKE!! Absolutely correct. Thanks for the correction.

    Another self-correction. The speed of EVDO is more like 2nd tier DSL...
    Definitely not quite as good as most home cable speeds, but perhaps 0.5Mbps.

    What is the Verizon's cost structure for 1XRTT? Can I still make the
    PC-phone connection via bluetooth without degrading the overall throughput
    to VZW?.
    _____________

    "Mike" <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:tfqlu09qbavrg3rcaq0l5en759rddm0b3h@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:22:48 -0500, "Ellery Davies"
    > <See-Reply-Addr@Nospam.com> wrote:
    >
    >>[*] Also note: Verizon has forced Motorola to cripple many bluetooth
    >>functions. You can use it *ONLY* for a wireless headset, to enable the
    >>in-car display/speakerphone (certain autos only), or as a wireless PC
    >>dial-up modem (at 14.4kbps), but you are prevented from transferring
    >>photos,
    >>synching your phone-list, downloading music clips or background images
    >>from
    >>your PC. Verizon wants you to send these things over their network.

    >
    > One correction - the v710 DOES support VZW's 1XRTT data, the step
    > between QNC and EVDO. Data speeds range generally 50-80kbps, with
    > bursts to 144kbps.
    >
    > Mike
     
  8. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Re: V710 Lawsuit (was: Replacement for Moto V60)?

    On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:41:38 -0500, "Ellery Davies"
    <See-Reply-Addr@Nospam.com> wrote:

    >What is the Verizon's cost structure for 1XRTT? Can I still make the
    >PC-phone connection via bluetooth without degrading the overall throughput
    >to VZW?.


    It works fine...the speed of 1XRTT is more than within what the
    Bluetooth connection can push between the phone and PC.

    Cost? I have the unlimited $79 a month plan, because I travel a lot
    and use it a lot. But most folks' existing America's Choice plans
    include what's known as "NationalAccess MOU" (for "Minutes of Use"),
    which basically lets you use the connection just by using cell phone
    minutes.

    Whether that's what VZW intended, whether it will work for everyone,
    etc. has been discussed to death in this newsgroup over the past 2
    years...do a search for "MOU" in any archive of this group (i.e.
    Google Groups, etc.).

    Look at your bill, either in person or online...if it has
    "NationalAccess" on it, you probably already have it.

    Mike
     

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