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Samsung a970 - test results

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by fish, Apr 16, 2006.

  1. fish

    fish Guest

    Now that I've had my new Samsung a970 for some time, I'd like to post some
    interesting facts.

    Compared to the (old) Samsung a610:

    Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds

    Another observation.
    The Motorola RAZR drains the battery by displaying the Verizon logo on the
    outside display during the entire length of a phone call (most likely to
    advertise "Verizon" for the world to see).

    The Samsung a970 does not drain the battery by displaying anything on the
    outside display during a phone call.

    Now for the bigger question, how does your phone measure up?
    ______________
    ---==fish==---
    ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯



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  2. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.verizon - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <qdw0g.8981$MU4.819@trnddc03> on Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:41:26 GMT, "fish"
    <i.am.such.a.fish@atlantic.ocean> wrote:

    >Another observation.
    >The Motorola RAZR drains the battery by displaying the Verizon logo on the
    >outside display during the entire length of a phone call (most likely to
    >advertise "Verizon" for the world to see).
    >
    >The Samsung a970 does not drain the battery by displaying anything on the
    >outside display during a phone call.


    I doubt that the difference in battery drain is significant -- the outside
    display draws far less power than the phone when on a call and the inside
    display.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://NavasGroup.com/>
  3. tman

    tman Guest

    fish wrote:
    > Now that I've had my new Samsung a970 for some time, I'd like to post some
    > interesting facts.
    >
    > Compared to the (old) Samsung a610:
    >
    > Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    > Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds
    >
    > Another observation.
    > The Motorola RAZR drains the battery by displaying the Verizon logo on the
    > outside display during the entire length of a phone call (most likely to
    > advertise "Verizon" for the world to see).
    >
    > The Samsung a970 does not drain the battery by displaying anything on the
    > outside display during a phone call.
    >
    > Now for the bigger question, how does your phone measure up?
    > ______________
    > ---==fish==---
    > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯


    Do you turn your phone on and off frequently? It is nice for a phone to
    turn on and off quickly, but, at least for me, it's not a big deal,
    especially compared to other features/performance issues, since I
    rarely turn my phone off.
  4. clifto

    clifto Guest

    fish wrote:
    > Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    > Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds


    I'm really glad you tested this and recorded the results. Seems like
    you and I are the only two people in the world who bought cell phones
    to turn them on and off all day; no one else understands the drudgery
    of having to wait a long time for startup and shutdown.

    --
    All relevant people are pertinent.
    All rude people are impertinent.
    Therefore, no rude people are relevant.
    -- Solomon W. Golomb
  5. JE

    JE Guest

    Wow! What quality!


    "fish" <i.am.such.a.fish@atlantic.ocean> wrote in message
    news:qdw0g.8981$MU4.819@trnddc03...
    > Now that I've had my new Samsung a970 for some time, I'd like to post some
    > interesting facts.
    >
    > Compared to the (old) Samsung a610:
    >
    > Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    > Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds
    >
    > Another observation.
    > The Motorola RAZR drains the battery by displaying the Verizon logo on the
    > outside display during the entire length of a phone call (most likely to
    > advertise "Verizon" for the world to see).
    >
    > The Samsung a970 does not drain the battery by displaying anything on the
    > outside display during a phone call.
    >
    > Now for the bigger question, how does your phone measure up?
    > ______________
    > ---==fish==---
    > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
    >
    >
  6. al

    al Guest

    clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in news:shnbh3-l0o.ln1@remote.clifto.com:

    > fish wrote:
    >> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    >> Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds

    >
    > I'm really glad you tested this and recorded the results. Seems like
    > you and I are the only two people in the world who bought cell phones
    > to turn them on and off all day; no one else understands the drudgery
    > of having to wait a long time for startup and shutdown.
    >


    Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?

    The fact that even you admit it's not usually done make's me wonder.I've
    heard of alot of reasons to buy or not to buy this or that cell but on-off
    speed has never been there.

    Had no idea it was important to some,make that two,people.

    --
  7. Mart

    Mart Guest

    al wrote:
    > clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in news:shnbh3-l0o.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
    >
    >> fish wrote:
    >>> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    >>> Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds

    >> I'm really glad you tested this and recorded the results. Seems like
    >> you and I are the only two people in the world who bought cell phones
    >> to turn them on and off all day; no one else understands the drudgery
    >> of having to wait a long time for startup and shutdown.
    >>

    >
    > Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?
    >
    > The fact that even you admit it's not usually done make's me wonder.I've
    > heard of alot of reasons to buy or not to buy this or that cell but on-off
    > speed has never been there.
    >
    > Had no idea it was important to some,make that two,people.
    >
    > --




    People who work in locations (such as courthouses) where cell phones
    must be turned off. Detectives, lawyers, etc.. appearing for hearings
    still have to maintain contact for other cases. Go outside during a 10
    minute recess to make a call and you'll see why a slow booting phone can
    drive you up the wall.

    Hospitals, esp. ICU sections, also have bans on cell phones.



    YMMV

    --

    --
    Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not
    fish they are after. Henry David Thoreau
  8. John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    >
    > I doubt that the difference in battery drain is significant -- the outside
    > display draws far less power than the phone when on a call and the inside
    > display.
    >


    A lit color LED or LCD display draw significant power from those micro Li-Ion
    cells.

    --
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
    Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
  9. al

    al Guest

    Mart <nomailhere@verizon.net> wrote in news:UZO0g.2615$uK.1725@trndny03:

    > al wrote:
    >> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
    >> news:shnbh3-l0o.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
    >>
    >>> fish wrote:
    >>>> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9
    >>>> seconds Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time:
    >>>> 4 seconds
    >>> I'm really glad you tested this and recorded the results. Seems like
    >>> you and I are the only two people in the world who bought cell
    >>> phones to turn them on and off all day; no one else understands the
    >>> drudgery of having to wait a long time for startup and shutdown.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?
    >>
    >> The fact that even you admit it's not usually done make's me
    >> wonder.I've heard of alot of reasons to buy or not to buy this or
    >> that cell but on-off speed has never been there.
    >>
    >> Had no idea it was important to some,make that two,people.
    >>
    >> --

    >
    >
    >
    > People who work in locations (such as courthouses) where cell phones
    > must be turned off. Detectives, lawyers, etc.. appearing for hearings
    > still have to maintain contact for other cases. Go outside during a 10
    > minute recess to make a call and you'll see why a slow booting phone
    > can drive you up the wall.
    >
    > Hospitals, esp. ICU sections, also have bans on cell phones.
    >
    >
    >
    > YMMV
    >


    Maybe.But overall I don't buy it.Besides any place that "bans"
    cellphones makes having one a non-issue.And I've seen plenty of cops &
    lawyers that,like me,just have the cell on but in silent mode.Ive never
    had my cellphone confiscated in court because it was on.

    However I do recall when a lawyer forgot to silence his phone one day
    in court.The judge came close to doing just that but it's a rare
    occurrence.

    Cellphones are just small computers & the more junk you have packed
    inside them the longer it's going to take for them to bootup.Hopefully
    its bootup time will not be long enough to put you in the nut house.

    --
  10. clifto

    clifto Guest

    al wrote:
    > clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in news:shnbh3-l0o.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
    >> fish wrote:
    >>> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    >>> Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds

    >>
    >> I'm really glad you tested this and recorded the results. Seems like
    >> you and I are the only two people in the world who bought cell phones
    >> to turn them on and off all day; no one else understands the drudgery
    >> of having to wait a long time for startup and shutdown.

    >
    > Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?


    Your sarcasm detector needs batteries.

    --
    All relevant people are pertinent.
    All rude people are impertinent.
    Therefore, no rude people are relevant.
    -- Solomon W. Golomb
  11. al

    al Guest

    clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:i44dh3-41p.ln1@remote.clifto.com:

    > al wrote:
    >> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
    >> news:shnbh3-l0o.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
    >>> fish wrote:
    >>>> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9
    >>>> seconds Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time:
    >>>> 4 seconds
    >>>
    >>> I'm really glad you tested this and recorded the results. Seems like
    >>> you and I are the only two people in the world who bought cell
    >>> phones to turn them on and off all day; no one else understands the
    >>> drudgery of having to wait a long time for startup and shutdown.

    >>
    >> Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?

    >
    > Your sarcasm detector needs batteries.
    >


    Ok I'll check'm out.

    But in the meantime,why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?

    --
  12. Quick

    Quick Guest

    al wrote:
    > clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
    > news:i44dh3-41p.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
    >
    >> al wrote:
    >>> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
    >>> news:shnbh3-l0o.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
    >>>> fish wrote:
    >>>>> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown
    >>>>> time: 9 seconds Speed test: a970: startup time: 19
    >>>>> seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm really glad you tested this and recorded the
    >>>> results. Seems like you and I are the only two people
    >>>> in the world who bought cell phones to turn them on
    >>>> and off all day; no one else understands the drudgery
    >>>> of having to wait a long time for startup and
    >>>> shutdown.
    >>>
    >>> Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and
    >>> off all day"?

    >>
    >> Your sarcasm detector needs batteries.
    >>

    >
    > Ok I'll check'm out.
    >
    > But in the meantime,why would you turn your cellphone "on
    > and off all day"?


    I don't think they do. They just turn it on once in the morning,
    watch it take 15 seconds longer and dwell on it for the rest
    of the day (turning it off and back on a couple of times just
    to see if it really did take as long as they thought it did in
    the morning).

    -Quick
  13. al

    al Guest

    >>>>
    >>>> Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and
    >>>> off all day"?
    >>>
    >>> Your sarcasm detector needs batteries.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Ok I'll check'm out.
    >>
    >> But in the meantime,why would you turn your cellphone "on
    >> and off all day"?

    >
    > I don't think they do. They just turn it on once in the morning,
    > watch it take 15 seconds longer and dwell on it for the rest
    > of the day (turning it off and back on a couple of times just
    > to see if it really did take as long as they thought it did in
    > the morning).
    >
    > -Quick
    >
    >



    I'm sure glad that's been sorted.Now it all makes sense.

    And I only used three tissues for laughing tears!

    --
  14. fish

    fish Guest

    tman sez...

    > Do you turn your phone on and off frequently?


    When I'm at work, I'm required to keep my phone off.

    I turn it on when I am on break, then off again.

    At the end of the day, I turn it back on.

    Does it matter? In my world, it does.
    ______________
    ---==fish==---
    ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
  15. fish

    fish Guest

    al sez to fish...

    >>> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    >>> Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds

    >>


    > Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?


    If you go to the movies, you must turn your phone off.
    If you go to the theatre in New York, you must turn your phone off.
    If you go to a high class restaurant in New York, you must turn your phone
    off.

    I could go on and on and list every possible reason, or just maybe you might
    realize that people in this world live differently than you do.
    ______________
    ---==fish==---
    ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
  16. Quick

    Quick Guest

    fish wrote:
    > al sez to fish...
    >
    >>>> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown
    >>>> time: 9 seconds Speed test: a970: startup time: 19
    >>>> seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds
    >>>

    >
    >> Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and
    >> off all day"?

    >
    > If you go to the movies, you must turn your phone off.
    > If you go to the theatre in New York, you must turn your
    > phone off.
    > If you go to a high class restaurant in New York, you
    > must turn your phone off.
    >
    > I could go on and on and list every possible reason, or
    > just maybe you might realize that people in this world
    > live differently than you do. ______________
    > ---==fish==---
    > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯


    Point taken... but very few actually take the time to
    watch their phone boot completely. Press button until
    phone starts shutdown sequence when entering
    establishment and pocket it. When exiting establishment,
    press button until phone starts boot sequence and pocket it.
    Total time involved in shutting down and booting: 4 seconds.
    Everyone is different though. Some can't help but watch
    the pot until the water starts to boil.

    -Quick
  17. al

    al Guest

    >> Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?
    >


    > If you go to the movies, you must turn your phone off.
    > If you go to the theatre in New York, you must turn your phone off.
    > If you go to a high class restaurant in New York, you must turn your
    > phone off.
    >
    > I could go on and on and list every possible reason, or just maybe you
    > might realize that people in this world live differently than you do.
    > ______________
    > ---==fish==---
    > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
    >
    >


    You are absolutely correct re people doing things differently.

    Like me for instance.Every example you list for turning your phone off I
    simply have mine on & set,at the most,silent &,the rest of the time,vibrate
    only.

    Why you feel you need to turn your's off,especially with this startup
    fixation of yours,I can't figure.

    --
  18. Mart

    Mart Guest

    Quick wrote:

    > Point taken... but very few actually take the time to
    > watch their phone boot completely. Press button until
    > phone starts shutdown sequence when entering
    > establishment and pocket it. When exiting establishment,
    > press button until phone starts boot sequence and pocket it.
    > Total time involved in shutting down and booting: 4 seconds.
    > Everyone is different though. Some can't help but watch
    > the pot until the water starts to boil.
    >
    > -Quick
    >
    >



    Blind faith in modern technology is just that.

    I check the phone to make sure it boots properly. I remove the PC's
    pretty little graphic from the boot-up screen so I can check the boot
    process. When I start the car I check the gauges and idiot lights. Every
    chance I get I watch the fish not biting on the hook too. :) ("Catch
    anything?" "Nope." "Me neither. Great day for it, isn't it." "Yep. Now
    shush or you'll scare the fish away.")

    There is nothing wrong with watching the water until it starts to boil.
    The problem starts when you forget that you put the kettle on the lit
    stove in the first place.

    Now, if you have to get into the fridge to see if the light goes out
    when you close the door, you have a problem.



    --
    Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not
    fish they are after. Henry David Thoreau
  19. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.verizon - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <4443bd98$0$273$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net> on 17 Apr 2006 16:08:56
    GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> I doubt that the difference in battery drain is significant -- the outside
    >> display draws far less power than the phone when on a call and the inside
    >> display.

    >
    >A lit color LED or LCD display draw significant power from those micro Li-Ion
    >cells.


    Depends on the phone. The small outside monochrome display on my V551 draws
    very little power when lit as compared to the drain of the phone on the call
    and the large internal color display. Even with a color external display
    I doubt the Samsung A970 is much worse.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://NavasGroup.com/>
  20. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.verizon - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <qPX0g.14049$b06.12073@trnddc08> on Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:05:10 GMT, "fish"
    <i.am.such.a.fish@atlantic.ocean> wrote:

    >al sez to fish...
    >
    >>>> Speed test: a610: startup time: 29 seconds - shutdown time: 9 seconds
    >>>> Speed test: a970: startup time: 19 seconds - shutdown time: 4 seconds

    >
    >> Ok,I'll bite.Why would you turn your cellphone "on and off all day"?

    >
    >If you go to the movies, you must turn your phone off.
    >If you go to the theatre in New York, you must turn your phone off.
    >If you go to a high class restaurant in New York, you must turn your phone
    >off.
    >
    >I could go on and on and list every possible reason, or just maybe you might
    >realize that people in this world live differently than you do.


    I just put mine on silent.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://NavasGroup.com/>

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