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Setting my 'status' to busy for incoming calls

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by mdos, Jun 8, 2006.

  1. mdos

    mdos Guest

    Hi All:

    Anyone know if there's a way to make other callers trying to call me
    hear that 'busy ring' (the ring with the distinctive tone at the end of
    each ring to let you know the person you're trying to call is on
    another call)? I'd like to set my 'status' to busy during important
    meetings and such.

    Thanks.

    -Marc
     



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  2. George

    George Guest

    mdos wrote:
    > Hi All:
    >
    > Anyone know if there's a way to make other callers trying to call me
    > hear that 'busy ring' (the ring with the distinctive tone at the end of
    > each ring to let you know the person you're trying to call is on
    > another call)? I'd like to set my 'status' to busy during important
    > meetings and such.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > -Marc
    >


    I know its a really outrageous idea but how about turning the phone off?
    That way the calls go immediately to voice mail.

    BTW, thats what I do when I am doing something important and don't need
    a distraction.
     
  3. Dave

    Dave Guest

    you dial *70 then the phone number (*70-123-456-7890 it will not have the
    dashes on your display), that will block call waiting for that call only,
    however you must send the call not receive it. there are other * commands
    that also work with cellular like *67 which blocks caller id (does not
    populate your info on the persons phone you are calling cell or landline)
    hope this helps
    dave


    "mdos" <marc.dostie@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1149787845.463347.33000@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    > Hi All:
    >
    > Anyone know if there's a way to make other callers trying to call me
    > hear that 'busy ring' (the ring with the distinctive tone at the end of
    > each ring to let you know the person you're trying to call is on
    > another call)? I'd like to set my 'status' to busy during important
    > meetings and such.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > -Marc
    >
     
  4. Ben Skversky

    Ben Skversky Guest

    I think George has a better idea & much more sensible too.


    "Dave" <nospam@nothanks.net> wrote in message
    news:Ks0ig.10206$9f2.3383@trnddc04...
    > you dial *70 then the phone number (*70-123-456-7890 it will not have the
    > dashes on your display), that will block call waiting for that call only,
    > however you must send the call not receive it. there are other * commands
    > that also work with cellular like *67 which blocks caller id (does not
    > populate your info on the persons phone you are calling cell or landline)
    > hope this helps
    > dave
    >
    >
    > "mdos" <marc.dostie@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:1149787845.463347.33000@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    >> Hi All:
    >>
    >> Anyone know if there's a way to make other callers trying to call me
    >> hear that 'busy ring' (the ring with the distinctive tone at the end of
    >> each ring to let you know the person you're trying to call is on
    >> another call)? I'd like to set my 'status' to busy during important
    >> meetings and such.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> -Marc
    >>

    >
    >
     
  5. George

    George Guest

    Frankster wrote:
    > Off may work, but, you won't have a record of missed calls that way.
    >
    > -Frank
    >


    That really isn't important to me. If someone calls and they need
    something they will leave a voice mail.
     
  6. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:JLqdnTAtzZZhdRfZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@adelphia.com...
    > Frankster wrote:
    >> Off may work, but, you won't have a record of missed calls that way.
    >>
    >> -Frank
    >>

    >
    > That really isn't important to me. If someone calls and they need
    > something they will leave a voice mail.


    Well, there ya go. It is important to me.

    -Frank
     
  7. George

    George Guest

    Frankster wrote:
    > "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:JLqdnTAtzZZhdRfZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@adelphia.com...
    >
    >>Frankster wrote:
    >>
    >>>Off may work, but, you won't have a record of missed calls that way.
    >>>
    >>>-Frank
    >>>

    >>
    >>That really isn't important to me. If someone calls and they need
    >>something they will leave a voice mail.

    >
    >
    > Well, there ya go. It is important to me.
    >
    > -Frank
    >
    >


    Out of curiousity why is it important? To me that is like wanting to
    know that "Bob" from down the hall walked by my office when I wasn't
    there and just wanted to chit chat so he didn't leave a message.
     
  8. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    > Out of curiousity why is it important? To me that is like wanting to know
    > that "Bob" from down the hall walked by my office when I wasn't there and
    > just wanted to chit chat so he didn't leave a message.


    Are you such an imbecile that you cannot understand why different people
    have different needs? I don't feel like explaining anything to you.

    -Frank
     
  9. George

    George Guest

    Frankster wrote:
    >>Out of curiousity why is it important? To me that is like wanting to know
    >>that "Bob" from down the hall walked by my office when I wasn't there and
    >>just wanted to chit chat so he didn't leave a message.

    >
    >
    > Are you such an imbecile that you cannot understand why different people
    > have different needs? I don't feel like explaining anything to you.
    >
    > -Frank
    >
    >


    Grow up, adults don't call others "imbeciles" when someone asks a polite
    question.
     
  10. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:drOdnf-8cq6tkBHZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
    > Frankster wrote:
    >>>Out of curiousity why is it important? To me that is like wanting to know
    >>>that "Bob" from down the hall walked by my office when I wasn't there and
    >>>just wanted to chit chat so he didn't leave a message.

    >>
    >>
    >> Are you such an imbecile that you cannot understand why different people
    >> have different needs? I don't feel like explaining anything to you.
    >>
    >> -Frank

    >
    > Grow up, adults don't call others "imbeciles" when someone asks a polite
    > question.


    Okay, sorry about that. Just caught me wrong I guess. I apologize.

    As for the question... first of all, I didn't ask the original question and
    I don't really need the "feature" that the OP was referring to. However, I
    do recognize the potential benefit. Basically just not making the caller
    wait through the normal 4 rings (or so) when you know in advance you can't
    answer the phone. Personally, I don't care if the caller has to wait.

    Now, for the other issue of why someone might want to know who called, even
    if they did not leave a message.

    In my case, my phone is my business number. I want to be reachable as much
    as possible. A missed call is sometimes missed revenue. Now, I know, since I
    cannot always answer the phone, that is why there is voicemail. But the fact
    remains that some customers, after calling two or three times, WILL call
    another service provider. Even if my potential customer does NOT leave a
    message, I want to know if they tried more than once and also be able to
    call him/her back since I will have the number logged. I might even
    inturrupt my activities if they call more than once. Depends on the
    customer, if I know them, etc. So... I do not turn my phone off, even if I
    cannot answer it.

    Now, why don't you care who calls you if they don't leave a voicemail?

    Keep in mind, the only thing that disturbed me is that you seemed to think
    any deviation from your perceived value was not valid.

    -Frank
     
  11. George

    George Guest

    Frankster wrote:
    >
    >
    > Okay, sorry about that. Just caught me wrong I guess. I apologize.
    >
    >


    Thats what I figured.


    As for the question... first of all, I didn't ask the original
    question and
    > I don't really need the "feature" that the OP was referring to. However, I
    > do recognize the potential benefit. Basically just not making the caller
    > wait through the normal 4 rings (or so) when you know in advance you can't
    > answer the phone. Personally, I don't care if the caller has to wait.
    >
    > Now, for the other issue of why someone might want to know who called, even
    > if they did not leave a message.
    >
    > In my case, my phone is my business number. I want to be reachable as much
    > as possible. A missed call is sometimes missed revenue. Now, I know, since I
    > cannot always answer the phone, that is why there is voicemail. But the fact
    > remains that some customers, after calling two or three times, WILL call
    > another service provider. Even if my potential customer does NOT leave a
    > message, I want to know if they tried more than once and also be able to
    > call him/her back since I will have the number logged. I might even
    > inturrupt my activities if they call more than once. Depends on the
    > customer, if I know them, etc. So... I do not turn my phone off, even if I
    > cannot answer it.
    >


    > Now, why don't you care who calls you if they don't leave a voicemail?


    My phone is also my business number. My clients know that I promptly
    return calls so will leave a voice mail if I don't happen to answer. I
    only had one issue and that was a new guy at a client who turned out to
    be a weasel.

    My friends aren't offended because they know I can be busy and unable to
    respond. If it is important they leave a voicemail and I do the same
    when calling them.

    I will bet the customers that won't leave a voice mail are also your
    worst customers?


    >
    > Keep in mind, the only thing that disturbed me is that you seemed to think
    > any deviation from your perceived value was not valid.


    Understand, sometimes it is hard to get the "flavor" out of a few sentences.

    >
    > -Frank
    >
    >
    >
     
  12. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    > My clients know that I promptly return calls so will leave a voice mail if
    > I don't happen to answer.


    Yes, my *existing* clients know that about me too. But not my *prospective*
    clients.

    -Frank
     
  13. George

    George Guest

    Frankster wrote:
    >>My clients know that I promptly return calls so will leave a voice mail if
    >>I don't happen to answer.

    >
    >
    > Yes, my *existing* clients know that about me too. But not my *prospective*
    > clients.
    >
    > -Frank
    >
    >


    Interesting, I can't imagine in 2006 why someone wouldn't at least leave
    a voicemail. Then they could decide to never do business with you if you
    udidn't call back until the next day.

    It isn't unusual for me to get a voicemail saying "this is Bob Smith
    from Acme Corp, Fred Jones recommended you. Call me at 555-1212
    extension 209 so we can discuss a problem we are having..."

    I typically don't answer unless I recognize the number or am not busy.
     
  14. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    > Interesting, I can't imagine in 2006 why someone wouldn't at least leave a
    > voicemail. Then they could decide to never do business with you if you
    > udidn't call back until the next day.


    Easy. Their network is down NOW and they are losing money by the minute.
    They can't wait, they call someone else.

    > I typically don't answer unless I recognize the number or am not busy.


    It's good you have that luxury.

    -Frank
     
  15. Dean

    Dean Guest

    Just getting back to the topic for a sec.....

    Marc, I'm really curious. Can you be more specific about the reason your
    specific caller can't wait the 3-4 rings to voicemail?

    I'm assuming this is all about a specific caller, because most people have
    no idea what that little tone means. If it's a business matter, I'm sure you
    aren't assuming all your clients know or care whether you're in a meeting or
    busy on the phone. Either way, they aren't gonna get to talk to you....

    I don't have a specific answer to your problem, but the motivation behind it
    might help someone help you out.

    Dean
     
  16. George

    George Guest

    Frankster wrote:
    >>Interesting, I can't imagine in 2006 why someone wouldn't at least leave a
    >>voicemail. Then they could decide to never do business with you if you
    >>udidn't call back until the next day.

    >
    >
    > Easy. Their network is down NOW and they are losing money by the minute.
    > They can't wait, they call someone else.
    >
    >
    >>I typically don't answer unless I recognize the number or am not busy.

    >
    >
    > It's good you have that luxury.
    >
    > -Frank
    >
    >


    Actually my clients are of a time sensitive nature.

    My buddy does computer stuff and he also handles his phone the same wqay
    I do. Both of us have been in business for over 25 years and you tend
    to see it all in that time. We often compare notes. Most reputable
    businesses would have a relationship with a provider . So if they are
    shopping around for someone to immediately come over and land the
    helicopter in the parking lot there is a 99.9% chance it is one of these
    reasons:

    1) They haven't paid their existing provider and are on credit hold.

    2) One of the employees is an "expert" and they think it doesn't exist
    unless it is on the shelf at Best Buy. There is a bunch of Mickey-Mouse
    consumer stuff cobbled together and the expert is off today. It would
    take days to figure out what the expert did and the owner wants to spend
    $50.

    3) Family member is an expert and they like Dell. So much so the office
    is filled with "all this for $299" specials. The family member knows
    everything but just needs to have someone "click on the right thing" to
    make things right. $50 has also been allocated for this task.
     
  17. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:74edneatGM2CKhPZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@adelphia.com...
    > Frankster wrote:
    >>>Interesting, I can't imagine in 2006 why someone wouldn't at least leave
    >>>a voicemail. Then they could decide to never do business with you if you
    >>>udidn't call back until the next day.

    >>
    >>
    >> Easy. Their network is down NOW and they are losing money by the minute.
    >> They can't wait, they call someone else.
    >>
    >>
    >>>I typically don't answer unless I recognize the number or am not busy.

    >>
    >>
    >> It's good you have that luxury.
    >>
    >> -Frank

    >
    > Actually my clients are of a time sensitive nature.
    >
    > My buddy does computer stuff and he also handles his phone the same wqay I
    > do. Both of us have been in business for over 25 years and you tend to
    > see it all in that time. We often compare notes. Most reputable businesses
    > would have a relationship with a provider . So if they are shopping around
    > for someone to immediately come over and land the helicopter in the
    > parking lot there is a 99.9% chance it is one of these reasons:
    >
    > 1) They haven't paid their existing provider and are on credit hold.
    >
    > 2) One of the employees is an "expert" and they think it doesn't exist
    > unless it is on the shelf at Best Buy. There is a bunch of Mickey-Mouse
    > consumer stuff cobbled together and the expert is off today. It would take
    > days to figure out what the expert did and the owner wants to spend $50.
    >
    > 3) Family member is an expert and they like Dell. So much so the office is
    > filled with "all this for $299" specials. The family member knows
    > everything but just needs to have someone "click on the right thing" to
    > make things right. $50 has also been allocated for this task.


    I know there are 1000 ways to justify not answering the phone. The fact
    remains that in professional circles that provide IT services (and help desk
    style services) that "live answer rate" is considered an important metric
    for performance. I choose to strive for a high percentage. Others don't.
    That's okay.

    -Frank
     
  18. Richard

    Richard Guest

    Why not just get an answering service that will have a live person answer
    the phone when it is busy or off.

    "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
    news:Ko2dnarznPiYJhPZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >
    > "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:74edneatGM2CKhPZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@adelphia.com...
    >> Frankster wrote:
    >>>>Interesting, I can't imagine in 2006 why someone wouldn't at least leave
    >>>>a voicemail. Then they could decide to never do business with you if you
    >>>>udidn't call back until the next day.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Easy. Their network is down NOW and they are losing money by the minute.
    >>> They can't wait, they call someone else.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>I typically don't answer unless I recognize the number or am not busy.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> It's good you have that luxury.
    >>>
    >>> -Frank

    >>
    >> Actually my clients are of a time sensitive nature.
    >>
    >> My buddy does computer stuff and he also handles his phone the same wqay
    >> I do. Both of us have been in business for over 25 years and you tend to
    >> see it all in that time. We often compare notes. Most reputable
    >> businesses would have a relationship with a provider . So if they are
    >> shopping around for someone to immediately come over and land the
    >> helicopter in the parking lot there is a 99.9% chance it is one of these
    >> reasons:
    >>
    >> 1) They haven't paid their existing provider and are on credit hold.
    >>
    >> 2) One of the employees is an "expert" and they think it doesn't exist
    >> unless it is on the shelf at Best Buy. There is a bunch of Mickey-Mouse
    >> consumer stuff cobbled together and the expert is off today. It would
    >> take days to figure out what the expert did and the owner wants to spend
    >> $50.
    >>
    >> 3) Family member is an expert and they like Dell. So much so the office
    >> is filled with "all this for $299" specials. The family member knows
    >> everything but just needs to have someone "click on the right thing" to
    >> make things right. $50 has also been allocated for this task.

    >
    > I know there are 1000 ways to justify not answering the phone. The fact
    > remains that in professional circles that provide IT services (and help
    > desk style services) that "live answer rate" is considered an important
    > metric for performance. I choose to strive for a high percentage. Others
    > don't. That's okay.
    >
    > -Frank
    >
     
  19. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    > Why not just get an answering service that will have a live person answer
    > the phone when it is busy or off.


    As much as I appreciate all the help in how to run my business, I can handle
    it.

    -Frank
     
  20. Mike Levy

    Mike Levy Guest

    On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:17:56 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    >news:74edneatGM2CKhPZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@adelphia.com...
    >> Frankster wrote:
    >>>>Interesting, I can't imagine in 2006 why someone wouldn't at least leave
    >>>>a voicemail. Then they could decide to never do business with you if you
    >>>>udidn't call back until the next day.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Easy. Their network is down NOW and they are losing money by the minute.
    >>> They can't wait, they call someone else.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>I typically don't answer unless I recognize the number or am not busy.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> It's good you have that luxury.
    >>>
    >>> -Frank

    >>
    >> Actually my clients are of a time sensitive nature.
    >>
    >> My buddy does computer stuff and he also handles his phone the same wqay I
    >> do. Both of us have been in business for over 25 years and you tend to
    >> see it all in that time. We often compare notes. Most reputable businesses
    >> would have a relationship with a provider . So if they are shopping around
    >> for someone to immediately come over and land the helicopter in the
    >> parking lot there is a 99.9% chance it is one of these reasons:
    >>
    >> 1) They haven't paid their existing provider and are on credit hold.
    >>
    >> 2) One of the employees is an "expert" and they think it doesn't exist
    >> unless it is on the shelf at Best Buy. There is a bunch of Mickey-Mouse
    >> consumer stuff cobbled together and the expert is off today. It would take
    >> days to figure out what the expert did and the owner wants to spend $50.
    >>
    >> 3) Family member is an expert and they like Dell. So much so the office is
    >> filled with "all this for $299" specials. The family member knows
    >> everything but just needs to have someone "click on the right thing" to
    >> make things right. $50 has also been allocated for this task.

    >
    >I know there are 1000 ways to justify not answering the phone. The fact
    >remains that in professional circles that provide IT services (and help desk
    >style services) that "live answer rate" is considered an important metric
    >for performance. I choose to strive for a high percentage. Others don't.
    >That's okay.
    >
    >-Frank
    >



    I work as level-2 for a large business. Unless I have a case for the
    person calling or recognize the phone number as a VIP/VIP admin or one
    of my colleagues, they don't get a "live answer" from me (or anyone
    else on the team). We tend to have people that want to circumvent the
    "system" and go right to us. That's fine with us when it's a VIP or a
    VIP's admin, anyone else goes to voicemail. We do this because we're
    busy enough as it is (10 of us, 3000 of them) without shoulder-taps so
    they NEED to go through the help desk (and probably 50% of the
    problems can be resolved there anyway) to prevent other issues such as
    us missing deadline on a current ticket.

    That applies to our desk phones, we NEVER give our cell phone numbers
    to users unless it's a VIP, and even that's a rare case, since we use
    our personal cell phones for work (with compensation).

    I realize this is a SLIGHTLY different scenario, but the same line of
    work.
     

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