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Sprint or Verizon

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Viper, Nov 18, 2003.

  1. Viper <Viper0580@fuse.net> wrote:
    > I am just wondering if Verizon will ever compete with Sprint's Pricing on
    > mobile web


    My guess is: not a chance in hell.

    Verizon has never made any attempt to compete on price. T-Mobile and Sprint
    sell on price. Verizon does not.

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  2. Jon Clark

    Jon Clark Guest

    "Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
    news:eLSdnU5HRJMxvyai4p2dnA@lmi.net...
    > About Dakota <aboutdakota@removemehotmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Beleive it or not, I have compared Sprint PCS in other states to VZW in
    > > North Dakota, where I went to high school when I was back this summer.
    > > (I had a friend with SPCS). Sprint's coverage throughout the journey
    > > from Orlando, FL was not as good as Verizon's. Cingular and Verizon
    > > basically had identical coverage, though much more of the Cingular
    > > coverage was digital. Sprint's coverage was very spotty.
    > >
    > > However, Sprint in other states performed better than Verizon did in
    > > North Dakota.

    >
    > There are some places where Sprint definitely beats Verizon. Minnesota
    > has much more comprehensive Sprint coverage, and I understand parts of
    > Wisconsin are better-covered by Sprint, for example...


    This is true because VZW has very limited license area in Southern MN -
    Basically just in and right around the Twin Cities metro area. *Within*
    their coverage footprint, VZW is among the best, if not the best service
    here. Unfortunately, much of the rest of MN (with the exception of far NE
    MN) is another roaming partner (MWW, RCC, WW, CMS, or Sprint (actually
    Northern PCS)).

    Sprint's coverage in the Twin Cities continues to generally impress me. I
    find few areas w/o decent service these days, although this wasn't always
    the case. VZW is still generally better in residential areas and deep inside
    commercial buildings - most of which can be attributed to the 800 MHz / 1900
    MHz factor. Sprint outside the Twin Cities is mostly built and operated by a
    network affiliate - Northen PCS. They built the network generally by
    overlaying leased cell sites on other 800 MHz networks' towers, putting up
    very few of their own new towers. The result is a map that looks nice on the
    Sprint site, but in reality, consists largely of fringe coverage - sites
    placed 15 to 20 miles apart along the highways, where 12 should really be
    the maximum for PCS frequencies coupled with "toy-phone" RF power and
    reception. If you want *any* chance of holding a call on Sprint along an
    outstate MN highway for more than 20 miles, you need a high-gain external
    antenna and an adapter for your phone - and even then it's a long shot.
    Secondary and tertiary cities (St. Cloud, Rochester, Mankato, Brainerd,
    Duluth, etc etc) generally fare a little better for Sprint/Northern PCS in
    outstate MN - but sometimes the lack of cell sites even becomes a problem in
    those towns.

    RCC, MWW and WW don't place their towers any closer together, but run at 800
    MHz so the propagation is somewhat better, and RCC is AMPS on VZW phones
    (right now - CDMA overlay is coming), so RF power from the phone should
    (theoretically) be higher, allowing for better range in that case. The other
    X factor is that VZW phones will still prefer Sprint in rural MN when it can
    find a signal (over MWW and RCC), so I got the VX4400 so I could force "cell
    only" mode and effectively lock out the Sprint / Northern PCS roaming in
    those areas. I have not checked - perhaps the most recent PRL puts MWW, WW,
    and RCC (or some of them) above SPCS in priority, but I don't think so - yet
    anyways.

    That's the story here in MN...

    -Jon

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  3. piotor

    piotor Guest

    I had sprint for a year and a half and hated it.
    Lousy coverage, and people with Verizon phones were getting out.
    I ditched Sprint after a year and a halfthen spent the next four
    months gettin harrassing phone calls to pay an "Early Cancelation"
    charge.

    I like verizon.

    To get an opinion on Sprint, do a google search
    for " sprint complaints"

    incredible number of people who hate Sprint.

    There's even a website called


    http://sprintpcs-sucks.org/








    >
  4. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:46:42 -0500, gerry <gerrry_net@gogood.com>
    posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Yes, trees leaves Sprint's PCS frequencies at my home in Eastern MA north
    >of RI. Heck, they even limit my 2M range (amateur radio). In the winter I
    >can work Long Island simplex!


    Sounds familiar. I used to work the Cape and Outer Banks repeater (I
    think that's what it's called, or that's the name of the club - it's
    been a few years) from the North Shore of Long Island with an HT and
    6db on the antenna.
  5. About Dakota

    About Dakota Guest

    > RCC, MWW and WW don't place their towers any closer together, but run at 800
    > MHz so the propagation is somewhat better, and RCC is AMPS on VZW phones
    > (right now - CDMA overlay is coming), so RF power from the phone should
    > (theoretically) be higher, allowing for better range in that case. The other
    > X factor is that VZW phones will still prefer Sprint in rural MN when it can
    > find a signal (over MWW and RCC), so I got the VX4400 so I could force "cell
    > only" mode and effectively lock out the Sprint / Northern PCS roaming in
    > those areas. I have not checked - perhaps the most recent PRL puts MWW, WW,
    > and RCC (or some of them) above SPCS in priority, but I don't think so - yet
    > anyways.
    >
    > That's the story here in MN...
    >
    > -Jon


    My guess is that WW is not free roam, anywhere. If you take a look at
    the LDC or AC map, if you notice quite a bit of roaming in South Dakota,
    and some in North Dakota -- That's WW. Also, a lot of the (not free)
    roaming in the western states is WW. Rumour has it that WW is looking
    to be bought out. I'm not sure how true that is, but it is building a
    GSM overlay for Cingular. It would make a good addition to Verizon,
    Cingular, or AT&T.

    AD
  6. About Dakota

    About Dakota Guest

    piotor wrote:
    > I had sprint for a year and a half and hated it.
    > Lousy coverage, and people with Verizon phones were getting out.
    > I ditched Sprint after a year and a halfthen spent the next four
    > months gettin harrassing phone calls to pay an "Early Cancelation"
    > charge.
    >
    > I like verizon.
    >
    > To get an opinion on Sprint, do a google search
    > for " sprint complaints"
    >
    > incredible number of people who hate Sprint.
    >
    > There's even a website called
    >
    >
    > http://sprintpcs-sucks.org/


    You know what -

    There's even a website called

    http://www.verizon-sucks.com/

    and Verizon Wireless registered the domain name of www.verizon-sucks.org

    I'm also willing to bet since Verizon Communications (as well as Verizon
    Wireless) has a monopoly in many areas, there are far more customers who
    would love to take their money to an alternative carrier, but cannot.
    You have the freedom to switch, and I'm glad you did.

    AD

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