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Switching to Sprint? Opinions?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Michael L., Jun 7, 2004.

  1. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     



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  2. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  3. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  4. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  5. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  6. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  7. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  8. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  9. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  10. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  11. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:23:54 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

    >These all sound like hypothetical arguments. First off Jack, let's get
    >something straight. It sounds like you don't have SPCS coverage with all
    >this talk of roaming. If you were roaming that much, you should have dumped
    >SPCS and found another provider. If you do have coverage with SPCS and roam
    >that much, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'd like to sell you ...


    I have Sprint PCS. I wind up on roaming at least 25% of the calls I
    make on a regular basis. I find it irritating that I have to pay a
    montly service fee to get the "true nationwide network with no
    roaming" that the ads promised.

    My contract is up, and yes, I am changing providers. The plan I have
    found is $20.00 per month cheaper, has TRUE no roaming anywhere in the
    US, regardless of what network I am currently connected to, and has
    more minutes per month. My sister has the same provider, and I have
    done side by side tests with her phone and mine in all the areas of
    Orlando that I can't get a signal. I'm at "searching for signal" and
    she's at 4 or 5 bars in every location.

    >notification of having too many roaming minutes. It's probably the best $5
    >monthly investment offered by SPCS for those that do find they roam
    >occasionally, either off network or in a dead spot.


    $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    It just torques me.


    Deb
     
  12. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
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    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
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  13. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  14. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  15. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  16. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  17. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  18. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  19. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     
  20. In alt.cellular.sprintpcs deb.milner@att.net wrote:

    > $5.00 per month to get a true national plan without roaming charges.
    > It just torques me.


    Yes, but if you get a true nationwide plan -- say, Verizon National Single-
    Rate, or Alltel Total Freedom, or Cingular Nation -- it will still cost
    more than the equivalent preferred-network plan -- Verizon America's Choice,
    Alltel National Freedom, or Cingular Preferred. The preferred network plans
    allow you to roam nationwide on the carrier's network and on the networks
    of certain other carriers where they've negotiated inexpensive roaming
    agreements. Everywhere else you pay for roaming. Sprint Free & Clear is
    a preferred-network plan (albeit one that only includes Sprint networks).
    Always has been. And the reason those other preferred-network plans were
    introduced was to compete with F&C, which was at the time a much better
    deal than pioneering plans like AT&T's Digital One-Rate (the first-ever
    true nationwide plan).

    The true nationwide plans will always be more, and in some cases will cost
    more than $5/month above the preferred-network plans.

    The real issue is that with the possible exception of Cingular, the others
    don't limit you to a certain percentage of your calls being on the carrier's
    own network. But the cost is in line with, and is often less than, other
    carriers' equivalent true nationwide plans. You *will* pay more because
    when you roam, the carriers pay the roaming networks for the privilege of
    letting you roam and on the true nationwide plans, they *can't* bill those
    minutes back to you as roaming minutes, so they eat the roaming charges.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
    PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.
     

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